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IsildurFri 15-Jan-16 02:34 PM
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#62252, "RE: Some feedback/suggestion"
Edited on Fri 15-Jan-16 02:34 PM

          

>1) Players don't know (and we'll never tell them) how many
>charges someone is worth, at which point they're going to go
>fishing with nets anyway.

This is a good point. This change would only be effective at deincentivizing the killing of scrubs if the killer is able to tell who's a scrub and who isn't.

>2) This is still abusable. It probably wouldn't happen often,
>but it would happen

Not the way I had in mind. I wouldn't tie the amount of edge points to the # of charges. If the threshold were "1" then killing a 1-charge guy would get you as many points as killing a 15-charge guy.

Technically, yes, some player worth 1+ charges could suicide on another player in order to give that guy edge points. But that was already possible under the system that was just scrapped. Not awarding points for multi-kills would also make it trickier. The player trying to suicide would need to make sure his deaths are interleaved w/ other kills or they'd end up not "counting".

>Again, I just don't care enough to do this. It would require
>a lot of refactoring to do this, all for a feature I don't
>think has much value. If I really wanted to make EPs for PKs
>work, this would obviously be a good idea though.

Isn't this already in effect for AP charges? That is, you can't get charges for killing someone who you just killed? For some reason I thought that was the case.

>It's actually not ganging that worries me.

Me neither. But I figured I'd throw it in there just to further deincentivize ganging.

  

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HOT TopicPK Milestones [View all] , SPN, Fri 15-Jan-16 09:43 AM
Reply Just opinion..., RFP, 17-Feb-16 05:50 PM, #70
Reply Dude, you missed the ####storm (the discsussion about t..., mharlndarn, 18-Feb-16 12:28 AM, #71
     Reply But it can be easily avoided without removing rewards f..., RFP, 18-Feb-16 02:40 AM, #72
          Reply Honestly the level tiered rewards were the only problem, KaguMaru, 18-Feb-16 02:51 AM, #73
               Reply Edges should be removed completely (nt), Bemused, 18-Feb-16 03:16 AM, #74
                    Reply Customization argument, KaguMaru, 18-Feb-16 06:29 AM, #75
                         Reply I rip my bandaids off. I guess you're more of a "tease..., Bemused, 18-Feb-16 09:13 AM, #76
Reply Screw it. I'm gonna say I'm strangely cool with this ch..., TJHuron, 21-Jan-16 11:29 PM, #69
Reply Good Change, Tsunami, 17-Jan-16 11:55 AM, #64
Reply RE: Good Change, GrahamC, 17-Jan-16 01:58 PM, #66
     Reply Hello GrahamC, Tsunami, 17-Jan-16 02:55 PM, #67
Reply Thumbs up, Doof, 17-Jan-16 05:18 AM, #57
Reply I am fine with this change., Polmier (Anonymous), 16-Jan-16 04:42 PM, #38
Reply This kinda sucks IMO, Jafel, 15-Jan-16 07:51 PM, #21
Reply You left because of edge point changes 10 years ago? n/..., Lhydia, 15-Jan-16 08:19 PM, #22
Reply You are a toolbox, Tac, 15-Jan-16 09:45 PM, #25
Reply RE: This kinda sucks IMO, Umiron, 16-Jan-16 01:50 PM, #33
     Reply All my characters merit more than they have., Murphy, 16-Jan-16 03:07 PM, #35
     Reply RE: This kinda sucks IMO, Jafel, 16-Jan-16 03:59 PM, #36
          Reply RE: Gaining Edge Points, Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 04:33 PM, #37
               Reply RE: Gaining Edge Points, Bemused, 16-Jan-16 05:51 PM, #40
                    Reply Let's try that with thief points, eh?, Murphy, 16-Jan-16 05:57 PM, #41
                    Reply RE: Let's try that with thief points, eh?, Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 06:38 PM, #43
                         Reply I wasn't exactly trying to troll, but, Murphy, 16-Jan-16 10:05 PM, #46
                              Reply RE: I wasn't exactly trying to troll, but, Umiron, 16-Jan-16 10:14 PM, #47
                              Reply I'm probably emotional right here., Murphy, 16-Jan-16 10:33 PM, #48
                                   Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., Umiron, 16-Jan-16 10:59 PM, #49
                                        Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., Onewingedangel, 16-Jan-16 11:23 PM, #50
                                        Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., Umiron, 16-Jan-16 11:43 PM, #51
                                             Reply Honestly, did you expect this change to be universally ..., Tac, 16-Jan-16 11:48 PM, #52
                                             Reply RE: Honestly, did you expect this change to be universa..., Umiron, 16-Jan-16 11:51 PM, #53
                                             Reply Holy crap stfu , Demos, 17-Jan-16 10:01 AM, #63
                                             Reply I'm sorry you feel that way., Murphy, 17-Jan-16 12:02 AM, #55
                                             Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., GrahamC, 17-Jan-16 01:52 PM, #65
                                        Reply Why bother reading player feedback??, Saagkri, 16-Jan-16 11:53 PM, #54
                                        Reply RE: Why bother reading player feedback??, Destuvius, 17-Jan-16 08:24 AM, #61
                                             Reply Few enough players as it is without them moving to staf..., incognito, 17-Jan-16 09:25 AM, #62
                                        Reply I'll be honest, Murphy, 17-Jan-16 05:59 AM, #58
                              Reply Guess that goes to show I've played too long., Jormyr, 17-Jan-16 02:38 AM, #56
                    Reply RE: Gaining Edge Points, Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 06:20 PM, #42
                         Reply Just chill, its a nice change., mharlndarn, 16-Jan-16 06:47 PM, #44
                              Reply Agreed. There was definitely some frustration to it., Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 07:07 PM, #45
                                   Reply The thing is getting advantage is sooo much fun :) NT, Kstatida, 21-Jan-16 10:40 AM, #68
Reply I do not like this change., Sarien, 15-Jan-16 04:15 PM, #15
Reply I am also critical of this change, Bemused, 15-Jan-16 05:30 PM, #19
Reply If you ONLY pk for EP, Destuvius, 15-Jan-16 07:38 PM, #20
     Reply RE: If you ONLY pk for EP, Sarien, 15-Jan-16 08:23 PM, #23
          Reply Both are rewarded, Destuvius, 15-Jan-16 09:25 PM, #24
               Reply I still do half my gearing via PK lol. That's an incen..., TMNS, 16-Jan-16 01:06 AM, #29
Reply Please remove the explore/observe x by level 30 edgepoi..., ibuki, 15-Jan-16 03:43 PM, #12
Reply RE: Please remove the explore/observe x by level 30 edg..., Mcbeth, 15-Jan-16 04:52 PM, #18
Reply Regarding Edge Changes and This Whole Discussion, Homard, 15-Jan-16 03:06 PM, #10
Reply RE: Regarding Edge Changes and This Whole Discussion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 03:46 PM, #13
     Reply I think I may have been enjoying CF wrong. nt, Saagkri, 15-Jan-16 04:04 PM, #14
     Reply Oh man, I hope no one's overexerting themselves over CF..., Homard, 15-Jan-16 04:29 PM, #17
          Reply 1 thing..., TMNS, 16-Jan-16 01:04 AM, #28
               Reply Oh yeah, I've been happy, too., Homard, 16-Jan-16 11:43 AM, #32
Reply RE: PK Milestones, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 10:26 AM, #2
Reply Some feedback/suggestion, Tac, 15-Jan-16 10:41 AM, #3
Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 10:47 AM, #4
     Reply Fair enough, Tac, 15-Jan-16 11:59 AM, #5
     Reply Frankly..., Umiron, 15-Jan-16 12:19 PM, #6
          Reply Holy ####ing ####. Glad someone finally said it from a..., TMNS, 16-Jan-16 12:58 AM, #27
          Reply Me too, lasentia, 16-Jan-16 06:40 AM, #30
               Reply RE: the rest are just perks, Murphy, 16-Jan-16 05:29 PM, #39
          Reply So thinking about it, incognito, 17-Jan-16 06:39 AM, #59
               Reply RE: So thinking about it, Bemused, 17-Jan-16 07:12 AM, #60
     Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Isildur, 15-Jan-16 01:44 PM, #7
          Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 01:59 PM, #8
               Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Isildur, 15-Jan-16 02:34 PM #9
                    Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 03:30 PM, #11
Reply Interesting, GrahamC, 15-Jan-16 04:26 PM, #16
Reply Your statement doesn't match reality. (nt), Umiron, 16-Jan-16 11:24 AM, #31
     Reply RE: Your statement doesn't match reality. (nt), GrahamC, 16-Jan-16 02:10 PM, #34
Reply I feel like you're my spirit animal. NT, TMNS, 16-Jan-16 12:47 AM, #26
Reply http://www.carrionfields.net/helpsearch.php?keywords=ed..., Tac, 15-Jan-16 10:21 AM, #1
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