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KnacMon 05-Jan-15 06:34 PM
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#57632, "RE: To be honest -250 imm exp isn't much."


          

Yea, I agree, -250 imm xp is not much. Practically, it won't have a huge detrimental impact on my character (this is me personally - I'm fairly confident in my abilities that I can easily rectify that somehow). But realistically, it links my character to a negative attribution that will likely affect my character someway in the future. At least, that's how I feel - it may not be true, and maybe I'm the minority, but I don't think I'm the minority.

Coming from the player side, what I'm getting is that people think that this punishment is disproportional to the violation. IE the violation is not egregious enough to warrant getting the -imm xp. And this arose from the fact that a) observation/exploration xp for edge points has changed and b) this appears to be something NEW that's happening, and it started happening without the players noticing it.

Essentially, the -imm xp was a surprise that added to an arguably hugely disfavorable change to the game.

Notwithstanding the disfavorable changes (which is up to the imms - I'm not touching that, nor do I particularly care), before putting the -XP hammer down (and I don't think that just because imms are awarding more xp necessitates creating more situations of subtracting xp - these are different issues), I'd suggest having some mechanism to track violations (maybe a databank where imms put in various violations that they see). It's being done anyways in a way for each character's PBF. If it becomes a common problem, put an announcement in stating that this is the official stance and these are the penalties. Don't leave it open for discussion. That way there's no "surprise" when it comes to detrimental effects on players.

I said this once before, and I'll say it again. You guys should get someone to be in charge of public relations concerns. There are those naysayers among the players who are just douches, ####s, and wants to point fingers at one of the imms for every single insignificant affronts that they perceive is being done to them (or not even them - they just like to argue), but generally, I think the playerbase is more mature than those people.

  

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HOT TopicPSA: Descriptions [View all] , Akresius, Mon 05-Jan-15 10:38 PM
Reply Had you never docked imm exp this would never have beco..., TJHuron, 06-Jan-15 01:04 PM, #52
Reply Didn't Mean to Kick the Beehive, Saagkri, 06-Jan-15 08:02 AM, #46
Reply RE: Didn't Mean to Kick the Beehive, Demos, 06-Jan-15 08:06 AM, #47
Reply Good post n/t, TJHuron, 06-Jan-15 12:46 PM, #51
Reply Fine, incognito, 06-Jan-15 05:10 AM, #45
Reply To the players below (let's try a different approach he..., Mendos, 06-Jan-15 02:24 AM, #42
Reply Reward originality., ibuki, 06-Jan-15 03:35 AM, #43
Reply In case it isn't (broadly) known, originality is alread..., Mendos, 06-Jan-15 03:50 AM, #44
Reply Don't look now, Ysaloerye, 06-Jan-15 11:27 AM, #50
Reply RE: To the players below (let's try a different approac..., Tac, 06-Jan-15 09:08 AM, #48
Reply I want to feel bad for you (because you're cool) but I ..., TMNS, 05-Jan-15 09:18 PM, #31
Reply What "arms race" do you refer to?, Mendos, 06-Jan-15 02:21 AM, #41
     Reply Long/short of it.., TMNS, 06-Jan-15 01:24 PM, #53
Reply Descriptions, Umiron, 05-Jan-15 08:24 PM, #30
Reply RE: Descriptions, Tac, 05-Jan-15 08:46 PM, #39
     Reply I don't think your post here is helpful, Humbert, 05-Jan-15 09:37 PM, #32
     Reply RE: I don't think your post here is helpful, Tac, 05-Jan-15 10:01 PM, #34
     Reply RE: I don't think your post here is helpful, Humbert, 05-Jan-15 10:11 PM, #35
     Reply Ineffective., Valguarnera, 05-Jan-15 10:22 PM, #37
          Reply RE: Ineffective., Humbert, 05-Jan-15 10:26 PM, #38
     Reply You guys need to stop, Knac, 05-Jan-15 09:48 PM, #33
          Reply Exactly this. , Humbert, 05-Jan-15 10:21 PM, #36
Reply Immortals are Doing a Great Job, Amora, 05-Jan-15 06:11 PM, #23
Reply Personally..., TheBluestThumb, 05-Jan-15 05:50 PM, #16
Reply I've agreed with every word you've posted in this threa..., Artificial, 05-Jan-15 05:40 PM, #13
Reply Of course you do., Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 06:13 PM, #24
Reply Over reactions, Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 05:37 PM, #11
Reply RE: Over reactions, Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:47 PM, #14
     Reply RE: Over reactions, Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 06:01 PM, #20
Reply It seems like the staff has been overzealous in 'enforc..., Lhydia, 05-Jan-15 04:44 PM, #3
Reply RE: It seems like the staff has been overzealous in 'en..., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:19 PM, #6
Reply No. And I'd say sorry you're so jaded but the attitude ..., Lhydia, 05-Jan-15 05:19 PM, #9
Reply Rotd & description room, Demos, 05-Jan-15 11:42 PM, #40
Reply RE: It seems like the staff has been overzealous in 'en..., Deaer (Anonymous), 05-Jan-15 05:17 PM, #8
Reply Caldysias and Baelen weren't a perma dude. NT, TMNS, 05-Jan-15 05:31 PM, #10
     Reply I didn't catch everyone., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:51 PM, #18
Reply is the juice worth the squeeze, laxman, 05-Jan-15 04:25 PM, #1
     Reply Removing multicharing and permagrouping rules would sav..., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 04:31 PM, #2
          Reply That doesn't really answer the question., Tac, 05-Jan-15 04:51 PM, #4
          Reply I wouldn't think those are good comparisons, laxman, 05-Jan-15 05:01 PM, #5
               Reply An easy way to hand out xp is for solid descriptions., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:15 PM, #7
                    Reply Consequence, Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 05:40 PM, #12
                    Reply RE: Consequence, Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:49 PM, #15
                         Reply It's not?, Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 06:06 PM, #21
                              Reply There's the disconnect., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 06:22 PM, #25
                                   Reply Not really., Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 06:34 PM, #26
                                        Reply RE: Not really., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 06:43 PM, #28
                                             Reply For sure., Tsunami, 05-Jan-15 08:14 PM, #29
                    Reply RE: An easy way to hand out xp is for solid description..., Knac, 05-Jan-15 05:50 PM, #17
                    Reply RE: An easy way to hand out xp is for solid description..., Akresius, 05-Jan-15 05:55 PM, #19
                    Reply To be honest -250 imm exp isn't much., Deaer (Anonymous), 05-Jan-15 06:10 PM, #22
                         Reply RE: To be honest -250 imm exp isn't much., Knac, 05-Jan-15 06:34 PM #27
                    Reply This is rather relevatory, laxman, 06-Jan-15 10:41 AM, #49
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