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Chalupah | Mon 07-Jun-04 11:12 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#4704, "RE: woot! Flame on!!"
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>>>>We only need new content, not new features.
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>>>I could be smarmy and say Guess I'll stop working on
>those
>>>new classes/races/cabals. No new features...got it. I'll
>>>just keep going on for bug fixes & new areas.
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>>classes/races/cabals are content. That's what I'm asking
>for.
>>areas are content. Ditto.
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>Right below you say Code and Areas are Features and
>Content. Right above you say We only need new
>content. Get your own definitions straight before you
>jump on mine.
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>>>>Code and Areas are Features and
>>>>Content. This is going to be a recurring theme in this
>flame.
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I'm jumping on yours I guess because I suspect that this is a glitch where we're not understanding each other.
I now suspect this is because I wrote that second part very poorly!
I meant to say, "Code is Features" and "Areas are Content". I guess everything is technically code though, so can you read between the lines for a second?
Alas, you've not actually attacked the idea yet, only the words.
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>>Zulgh look, take this statement, this is the base for this
>>idea.
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>>Immortals have often pointed out that they put a lot of work
>>into CF.
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>I have put a lot of time into CF.
I don't really understand why you're making a distinction here, but OK, I'll use time instead of work.
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>>I think the implication is that you do not enjoy 'working'
>on
>>CF, right?
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>I don't HAVE to work at CF. I choose to. My personal mantra
>with regards to CF and Work is that if CF ever becomes worse
>than my real-life job, I'll quit CF.
I mean.. OK. This is kind of avoiding the issue though, because I don't know how crappy your real-life job is, nor why you choose to stay at it.
> It's been really close
>at times. CF is not a job to me. It's a hobby. When you get
>to the point that I'm at, it is however much more
>administrative, which is a lot like a job, and is something I
>don't enjoy. I focus on what I enjoy (coming up with new
>ideas, solving problems, coding those ideas/solutions).
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Well.. I guess I don't understand why the ranking immortals have to do the things they don't enjoy. Why wouldn't you lump the grunt/administrative work off on someone else?
Remember, these are not rhetorical questions.
>There are parts where you DO have to work at CF (Enforcing
>rules both mortal and immortal, promotions within the immortal
>staff, fixing bugs, etc). There are many that you don't.
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Oh, so a lot goes on behind the secret immortal curtain. I couldn't possibly know though.
I respect you a lot more when you don't need to resort to this argument, but yes - you know things I don't about CF.
>>I'm trying to make your life easier? Why .. would you argue
>against me?
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>You're trying to make my life easier without having ever
>walked in my footstpes, or even knowing what I do here.
Is that a bad thing? If you would open the immortal curtain, I would be able to be more helpful.
> You
>honestly don't have an informed opinion on the matter, you
>just have an opinion based on inaccuracies.
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Well. Which inaccuracies? Once again, it comes down to the immortal curtain.
Honesty?
Now look, I'd like to just take your word for it, but frankly - the immortal staff lied to us for a good many years about the luck stat. I'm trying to use observations that everyone can agree upon.
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>>>be. This is not a stagnant environment.
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>>That's why I like muds. But why is it all or nothing?
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>How many people still play the first Everquest? I'd guess
>it's far less than at it's peak. They moved on to a newer
>version with new features & content.
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Doesn't CF average fewer players now too? I don't get this argument. I don't know how many people still play. I am not fond of rhetorical questions. You make a lot of assumptions in this that are impossible to prove or disprove.
>>Why wouldn't quests and immteraction keep the mud fresh?
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>Not everyone is involved in quests or immteraction. How would
>that keep it fresh for everyone else?
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I would like it if everyone was involved with quests and immteraction. You're right, as it stands it might not be optimal fre####ude.
But not everyone is involved in all new 'features'.
>>Why wouldn't player RP keep the mud fresh?
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>It doesn't now. I don't see that changing. The players may
>prove me wrong, but based on 15 years of mudding, I'll stick
>with my gut on this one.
So, you're just right because you're right. Right? (Again, you can use this argument if you'd like, your highness.)
To summarize what I'm proposing:
I think that content should be a much higher priority, because it would make the game more enjoyable to immortals and mortals.
I think that changes which make the game more time consuming are not the best solution to a problem.
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 Pontification: Change Fearers
[View all] , Valguarnera , Mon 07-Jun-04 08:56 PM
  RE: Pontification: Change Fearers,
Xaannix,
17-Jun-04 07:10 PM, #35
Change is not the problem.,
Xaannix,
17-Jun-04 07:00 PM, #34
I have pehaps a unique view on this,
Abthalok,
08-Jun-04 10:55 AM, #30
RE: Pontification: Change Fearers,
Nightgaunt_,
17-May-04 02:12 PM, #19
 About Outlanders (since you mentioned them),
Jarvino,
17-May-04 06:39 PM, #6
 Outlanders,
Zanya,
18-May-04 04:54 PM, #12
Response.,
Lyristeon,
09-Jun-04 10:22 AM, #32
woot! Flame on!!,
Chalupah,
07-Jun-04 08:22 PM, #18
RE: woot! Flame on!!,
Zulghinlour,
07-Jun-04 09:05 PM, #22
RE: woot! Flame on!!,
Chalupah,
07-Jun-04 09:48 PM, #23
RE: woot! Flame on!!,
Zulghinlour,
07-Jun-04 10:16 PM, #24
RE: woot! Flame on!!,
Chalupah,
07-Jun-04 11:12 PM #25
RE: woot! Flame on!!,
Zulghinlour,
07-Jun-04 11:21 PM, #26
I'm not trying to be difficult, I swear.,
Chalupah,
08-Jun-04 12:31 AM, #27
RE: I'm not trying to be difficult, I swear.,
Zulghinlour,
08-Jun-04 12:57 AM, #28
Two points for using onus in a sentence and not soundin...,
Shadowmaster,
08-Jun-04 08:08 AM, #29
RE: woot! Flame on!!,
Valguarnera,
09-Jun-04 09:09 AM, #31
Just a few thoughts.,
Lyristeon,
09-Jun-04 10:43 AM, #33
Good post (small text),
Soren,
28-May-04 01:30 PM, #17
RE: Pontification: Change Fearers,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
18-May-04 05:24 PM, #14
Didn't read your post, but "Trust" sums it up.,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
18-May-04 05:09 PM, #13
RE: Pontification: Change Fearers,
Romanul,
17-May-04 11:31 PM, #7
Assassins,
nepenthe,
18-May-04 12:00 AM, #8
RE: Assassins,
Romanul,
18-May-04 04:57 AM, #10
Orb Ramblings,
ORB,
17-May-04 12:48 PM, #5
Change Fearing vrs Constructive Critiscism,
General_Malaise,
17-May-04 10:43 AM, #1
RE: Change Fearing vrs Constructive Critiscism,
incognito,
17-May-04 11:31 AM, #2
Regarding Scion:,
Valguarnera,
17-May-04 11:51 AM, #3
RE: Regarding Scion:,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
18-May-04 05:30 PM, #15
Regarding Criticism:,
Valguarnera,
17-May-04 12:11 PM, #20
Great post, and a response.,
Shadowmaster,
17-May-04 12:34 PM, #4
regarding flee/sleep,
incognito,
18-May-04 03:23 AM, #9
regarding enhanced reactions,
incognito,
18-May-04 07:01 AM, #11
Come on,
(NOT Graatch),
18-May-04 05:24 PM, #21
RE: Come on,
incognito,
18-May-04 06:29 PM, #16
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