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IsildurMon 05-Mar-07 01:06 AM
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#16854, "RE: New armor/hit stuff"


          

>I wouldn't use "negate" there. Not sure where you're getting
>that.

Mostly the way the helpfile for aim is written:

"as they find the gaps in their opponent's armor
and technique. Even a full suit of platemail has a number of vulnerable points
accessible to a well-aimed strike"

To me, this translates to: "people who can aim won't get deflected as often, since they know how to target the vulnerable spots". Also the description of opportunity strike, which sounds as if it would render one's opponent's ability to deflect blows only as good as that person's weakest piece of armor (which may be clothing or treasure, and hence very unlikely to deflect anything).

>A lot of variables can come into play there, and I'm not sure how
>you're drawing conclusions this early.

I'm not drawing steadfast conclusions, just theorizing about how things appear from a cursory reading of the helpfiles. It seemed like the change could be summarized as, "everybody gets a chance to deflect, but melee classes also get some of skills that make their blows less likely to be deflected." Guess that's not the case after all. Some additional questions, though:

* Do all gear slots "matter"? For instance, is there a benefit to wearing AC-ish rings over "treasure" rings? It's hard to imagine deflecting something with a ring.

* Do the "armor use" skills stack? For instance, if you had a really light piece of dragonscale would it benefit from "bone armor use" and "light armor use" both?

* Can I assume that "light armor use" will only help you, i.e. there's no penalty when especially heavy armor is worn?

  

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HOT TopicNew armor/hit stuff [View all] , Nivek1, Sun 04-Mar-07 02:22 PM
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Torak, 12-Mar-07 01:47 PM, #52
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 12-Mar-07 11:47 PM, #53
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Torak, 13-Mar-07 04:35 PM, #54
          Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 13-Mar-07 04:39 PM, #55
               Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Torak, 13-Mar-07 08:32 PM, #56
                    Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 14-Mar-07 07:04 AM, #57
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Eskelian, 05-Mar-07 11:14 PM, #40
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Daevryn, 05-Mar-07 11:35 PM, #41
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Eskelian, 06-Mar-07 11:25 AM, #49
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 06-Mar-07 08:38 AM, #46
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Isildur, 04-Mar-07 11:10 PM, #7
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 04-Mar-07 11:18 PM, #8
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Isildur, 04-Mar-07 11:27 PM, #9
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 12:41 AM, #10
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Isildur, 05-Mar-07 01:06 AM #11
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 09:34 AM, #12
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Tac, 05-Mar-07 09:38 AM, #14
     Reply So, does dragonbone = bone, but dragonscale = its own c..., GinGa, 05-Mar-07 02:53 PM, #25
          Reply I didn't notice Valg said dragonscale, Tac, 05-Mar-07 03:07 PM, #26
               Reply Dragon = dragon., Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 03:32 PM, #27
                    Reply So then..., vargal, 05-Mar-07 04:38 PM, #28
                    Reply RE: So then..., Isildur, 05-Mar-07 05:28 PM, #29
                         Reply This is correct. (n/t), Valguarnera, 06-Mar-07 08:18 AM, #44
                    Reply Dragons aren't that rare, Tac, 05-Mar-07 05:31 PM, #30
                         Reply Some people like finding out secret stuff on their own...., Elerosse, 05-Mar-07 06:17 PM, #31
                              Reply Yep that's exactly what I'm saying, Tac, 05-Mar-07 06:55 PM, #34
                                   Reply RE: Yep that's exactly what I'm saying, Dragomir, 05-Mar-07 08:11 PM, #35
                                        Reply RE: Yep that's exactly what I'm saying, Isildur, 05-Mar-07 08:20 PM, #36
                                             Reply You are correct, I got carried away. Sorry., Dragomir, 05-Mar-07 08:26 PM, #37
                                             Reply RE: You are correct, I got carried away. Sorry., Isildur, 05-Mar-07 09:02 PM, #38
                                             Reply Thank You - n/t, Cyradia, 06-Mar-07 08:41 AM, #47
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Isildur, 05-Mar-07 10:03 AM, #18
          Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 10:09 AM, #19
          Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Sebeok, 05-Mar-07 10:25 AM, #20
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Kastellyn, 05-Mar-07 09:37 AM, #13
          Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Isildur, 05-Mar-07 09:52 AM, #15
               Reply You underestimate the Kasty., Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 09:57 AM, #16
                    Reply RE: You underestimate the Kasty., Isildur, 05-Mar-07 10:02 AM, #17
     Reply Further Question on Shifters, Lord_hoven, 09-Mar-07 01:44 PM, #51
Reply I had three questions too..., Doge, 05-Mar-07 12:46 PM, #21
     Reply RE: I had three questions too..., Isildur, 05-Mar-07 12:53 PM, #22
     Reply Is the second point correct?, incognito, 05-Mar-07 06:27 PM, #32
     Reply RE: Is the second point correct?, Isildur, 05-Mar-07 06:44 PM, #33
     Reply RE: I had three questions too..., Doge, 05-Mar-07 10:01 PM, #39
          Reply RE: I had three questions too..., Isildur, 06-Mar-07 12:09 AM, #42
               Reply RE: I had three questions too..., Doge, 06-Mar-07 10:49 AM, #48
     Reply RE: I had three questions too..., Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 01:50 PM, #24
Reply My own observation/question., Odrirg, 04-Mar-07 07:30 PM, #5
Reply I disagree, incognito, 05-Mar-07 01:37 PM, #23
Reply Another Question:, Rodriguez, 04-Mar-07 05:46 PM, #2
Reply Depends!, Valguarnera, 04-Mar-07 06:31 PM, #3
Reply My own ARMOR/AC question -, Straklaw, 04-Mar-07 02:38 PM, #1
     Reply RE: My own ARMOR/AC question -, Valguarnera, 04-Mar-07 06:42 PM, #4
          Reply Re: Sensible Dressing and Other Random Questions, Straklaw, 04-Mar-07 08:06 PM, #6
          Reply Quick related question about mystical armor use, Abernyte, 06-Mar-07 04:47 AM, #43
               Reply Can't reproduce this., Valguarnera, 06-Mar-07 08:27 AM, #45
                    Reply Ok thanks, I must have missed it ~, Abernyte, 06-Mar-07 11:51 AM, #50
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