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ValguarneraMon 05-Mar-07 12:41 AM
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#16853, "RE: New armor/hit stuff"


          

The first is shifters, who don't wear armor and so can't make use of any sort of deflection.

Offensive-oriented shifters tend to have crazy high hitrolls and are difficult to tank. Shifters in general are a difficult case for this, though I don't think anything dire has happened to them with it. We'll probably revisit which forms should get Evade-like utilities and the like some time soon.

Since I'm not sure which classes get those skills, I can't specify the members of this set. I would suppose that classes like bard, shaman, etc. are included.

Web page should be updated now, except healers. Small glitch there.

The hard-core melee guys (warriors, orcs, etc.) get skills (aim, precision aim, opp. strike) that to a large degree negate the armor bonuses their opponents just received.

I wouldn't use "negate" there. Not sure where you're getting that.

The heavily melee classes profit more, but they also rely on melee more. Mages get a little extra melee defense (non-zero chance to deflect), and lose some melee offense (against PCs and humanoid NPCs who are wearing armor, at least, they'll get blocked), but that may be a favorable trade for them.

It wasn't entirely obvious from running sample numbers during the testing process if that trade is favorable or not. A lot of variables can come into play there, and I'm not sure how you're drawing conclusions this early.

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HOT TopicNew armor/hit stuff [View all] , Nivek1, Sun 04-Mar-07 02:22 PM
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Torak, 12-Mar-07 01:47 PM, #52
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 12-Mar-07 11:47 PM, #53
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Torak, 13-Mar-07 04:35 PM, #54
          Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 13-Mar-07 04:39 PM, #55
               Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Torak, 13-Mar-07 08:32 PM, #56
                    Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 14-Mar-07 07:04 AM, #57
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Eskelian, 05-Mar-07 11:14 PM, #40
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Daevryn, 05-Mar-07 11:35 PM, #41
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Eskelian, 06-Mar-07 11:25 AM, #49
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 06-Mar-07 08:38 AM, #46
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Isildur, 04-Mar-07 11:10 PM, #7
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 04-Mar-07 11:18 PM, #8
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Isildur, 04-Mar-07 11:27 PM, #9
Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 12:41 AM #10
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Isildur, 05-Mar-07 01:06 AM, #11
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 09:34 AM, #12
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Tac, 05-Mar-07 09:38 AM, #14
     Reply So, does dragonbone = bone, but dragonscale = its own c..., GinGa, 05-Mar-07 02:53 PM, #25
          Reply I didn't notice Valg said dragonscale, Tac, 05-Mar-07 03:07 PM, #26
               Reply Dragon = dragon., Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 03:32 PM, #27
                    Reply So then..., vargal, 05-Mar-07 04:38 PM, #28
                    Reply RE: So then..., Isildur, 05-Mar-07 05:28 PM, #29
                         Reply This is correct. (n/t), Valguarnera, 06-Mar-07 08:18 AM, #44
                    Reply Dragons aren't that rare, Tac, 05-Mar-07 05:31 PM, #30
                         Reply Some people like finding out secret stuff on their own...., Elerosse, 05-Mar-07 06:17 PM, #31
                              Reply Yep that's exactly what I'm saying, Tac, 05-Mar-07 06:55 PM, #34
                                   Reply RE: Yep that's exactly what I'm saying, Dragomir, 05-Mar-07 08:11 PM, #35
                                        Reply RE: Yep that's exactly what I'm saying, Isildur, 05-Mar-07 08:20 PM, #36
                                             Reply You are correct, I got carried away. Sorry., Dragomir, 05-Mar-07 08:26 PM, #37
                                             Reply RE: You are correct, I got carried away. Sorry., Isildur, 05-Mar-07 09:02 PM, #38
                                             Reply Thank You - n/t, Cyradia, 06-Mar-07 08:41 AM, #47
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Isildur, 05-Mar-07 10:03 AM, #18
          Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 10:09 AM, #19
          Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Sebeok, 05-Mar-07 10:25 AM, #20
     Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Kastellyn, 05-Mar-07 09:37 AM, #13
          Reply RE: New armor/hit stuff, Isildur, 05-Mar-07 09:52 AM, #15
               Reply You underestimate the Kasty., Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 09:57 AM, #16
                    Reply RE: You underestimate the Kasty., Isildur, 05-Mar-07 10:02 AM, #17
     Reply Further Question on Shifters, Lord_hoven, 09-Mar-07 01:44 PM, #51
Reply I had three questions too..., Doge, 05-Mar-07 12:46 PM, #21
     Reply RE: I had three questions too..., Isildur, 05-Mar-07 12:53 PM, #22
     Reply Is the second point correct?, incognito, 05-Mar-07 06:27 PM, #32
     Reply RE: Is the second point correct?, Isildur, 05-Mar-07 06:44 PM, #33
     Reply RE: I had three questions too..., Doge, 05-Mar-07 10:01 PM, #39
          Reply RE: I had three questions too..., Isildur, 06-Mar-07 12:09 AM, #42
               Reply RE: I had three questions too..., Doge, 06-Mar-07 10:49 AM, #48
     Reply RE: I had three questions too..., Valguarnera, 05-Mar-07 01:50 PM, #24
Reply My own observation/question., Odrirg, 04-Mar-07 07:30 PM, #5
Reply I disagree, incognito, 05-Mar-07 01:37 PM, #23
Reply Another Question:, Rodriguez, 04-Mar-07 05:46 PM, #2
Reply Depends!, Valguarnera, 04-Mar-07 06:31 PM, #3
Reply My own ARMOR/AC question -, Straklaw, 04-Mar-07 02:38 PM, #1
     Reply RE: My own ARMOR/AC question -, Valguarnera, 04-Mar-07 06:42 PM, #4
          Reply Re: Sensible Dressing and Other Random Questions, Straklaw, 04-Mar-07 08:06 PM, #6
          Reply Quick related question about mystical armor use, Abernyte, 06-Mar-07 04:47 AM, #43
               Reply Can't reproduce this., Valguarnera, 06-Mar-07 08:27 AM, #45
                    Reply Ok thanks, I must have missed it ~, Abernyte, 06-Mar-07 11:51 AM, #50
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