>and a lot of people toe the line on the IC aspects, and
>completely ignore the OOC aspects.
>
>For example,in this log:
>
>http://www.qhcf.net/phorum/read.php?3,893261,893261#msg-893261
>
>What the rager did was, from an IC perspective, both in parity
>and courageous: he charged a mage and his paladin ally, 2v1,
>destroyed the mage, and got away scot free.
>
>What he did here from an OOC perspective (sitting as a ghost
>right next to a recall spot, and then dashing in and pincering
>someone who just worded in) lacked anything close to parity or
>courage: it's a strategy designed to get only the cheapest of
>the cheap kills, almost entirely risk free. No courage
>involved - from an OOC perspective I don't see a chance of him
>dying at all, so there's nothing to even be risked.

The only thing I disagree with her is the conclusion you've drawn. This is a log, of a moment in time, that shows a BattleRager killing a mage shortly after unghosting. There is no context to draw a conclusion from (whether positive or negative) which would indicate the BattleRager is in the wrong. It is not the place of the BattleRager (or any character) to warn someone before attacking them.

>I know that you will only hold villagers to the IC standards
>of parity and courage, rather than the OOC standards, but to

Correct. I'm more concerned with the IC standards as they apply in every instance of a character's lifespan. OOC standards will wilt the concepts as they are more centered around sportsmanship. There has to be a winner and a loser in a PK. Those on the losing end don't usually take it that well.

>me the essence of a a genuinine rager was actually upheld best
>by Landren, a Fortress Captain:
>
>http://forums.carrionfields.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=31&topic_id=11974&mesg_id=11974&page=
>
>I'm not saying every rager should solo rank or never ever
>gang, but I will say that Landren comes closest to what I
>think the ideals of courage and parity should be.

I remember Landren. Great character. In every aspect he embodied Honor. In an effort to clarify this thread, Honor won't be mentioned because it distracts from the core value of Courage. It has no place in the Village (unless as a role of an individual) and it has been the downfall of characters and cabals in the past.

If we are going to discuss Honor in the BattleRager cabal, I'll have to get onto my soapbox about giving BattleRager Berserkers Force Duel - and that will open up a very ugly can of worms

He carefully
>defined his boundaries in a both IC and OOC manner, and never
>really came close to crossing them. I recall he even wrote a
>few treatises instructing people in the Fortress to avoid
>ganging, or even peripheral forms of ganging (striking someone
>after his opponent fled, ping-ponging a guy through various
>opponents without a chance to catch his breath, etc), when
>possible. Stuff I saw all the time from villagers over the
>years.
>
>Of course, -I- am not a founder of the village, nor have I
>played any ragers on the pillar, so take that for what its
>worth. Also, I will refrain from commenting on the scout and
>defender paths, since I'm aware they aren't held to the same
>standards as berserkers.