>>>Re: Hell trips
>Typing "group" and seeing your name at the top isn't leading,
>and it really felt like that's what you thought much of the
>time. Watching you travel with the Scions, you were a means
>to their end, nothing more. They weren't listening to you,
>they were listening to Ravon (and not even all of them were
>doing that). The best I saw of you was leading the
>non-caballed/Herald group and making it somewhere, and
>yet...your groupmates still talked behind your back and via
>prays that you were not a leader. I really wanted to see what
>happened with the Imperial vs. Scion groups you kept trying to
>get together and lead. It was not going to end well for you.

Well it's nice to see when you're betrayed by people you take along on something they could never do on their own. I guess Llorenz' last action is testament to that, and a big part of why I deleted. Sorry, but I have no care for people who purposely pray and talk behind your back to make you look bad to your empowering Immortal, when I was trying to do something fun for other people. That's just simply ####ed up.

>The fact you got empowered at all is testament to it not being
>hard. I sure as hell am not going to fully empower anyone who
>can't even provide a basic understanding of the religion
>they're after (or the sphere they are focused on) and you did
>neither.

Yeah, I played a chaotic leader...which didn't really match the religion that well. I probably should have gone Kastellyn with the whole "accomplish something memorable at hero only".

As I said, I've learned from the experience that it just follows being a little more cookie-cutter/straight-arrow towards a religion to get empowered....and seeking empowerment with a twist on a religion (chaotic leader for example) isn't well perceived.