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ZulghinlourSun 23-Dec-07 10:52 PM
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#64528, "RE: Goodbyes"


          

>>Re: Your mindflayer role
>>
>>Wasn't a fan. There is a reason I always called you human.
>>Personally I don't like people who want to be <insert cool
>>race here>, but it's not a race I can pick, so I'll just
>whip
>>it into my role. I typically treat those folks as
>delusional.
>> You can think you're an illithid all you want, but you're
>>still just a human to me.
>
>Well I thought it was unique and not something totally out
>there - I could easily see the illithid wanting to infiltrate
>human society. I never ate food (always sate/quench) and ate
>every brain I could. I figured you didn't like it though so I
>just let it go after awhile. So much for trying something
>different.

And to be honest, I didn't hold that against you at all. I just refused to call you an illithid, or deal with that part of your role.



>>Re: You're interpretation of my religion
>>
>>I struggled to see you having any real grasp of my religion,
>>which is why I only empowered you to 30. I asked who you
>>would lead, and basically got "everyone". I asked what your
>>goals were and basically got "to do things nobody has done".
>
>>That screams generic BS to me, so I waited to see what you
>had
>>in mind. I snooped you a ton while I was doing code and
>would
>>go back and read some conversations, and it was amusing how
>>many people you talked to said the exact same thing. Sedos
>>said it best "I am still not clear on what you say you will
>>do."
>
>Don't know what's so hard to understand about doing stuff that
>no one has done before, so they can be remembered. Ninety
>percent of the people I've met in the last six months I won't
>remember them three weeks after they delete - but the people
>who killed each Archdevil and made it to Satan are
>immortalized in CF history. I was trying to do something
>memorable and give people a memorable experience in CF....but
>I guess people are content to "in cabal, most
>kill/defend/raid". If you can't be a Cabdru, you have to
>explore...so maybe someday you can be a Cabdru

As I said before. It screams generic BS to me. I've had enough people come through my empowerment doors to know when someone gets it. You basically told me, I'm going to do stuff, now empower me! Give me specifics, make a bold statement, something...anything. Once again Sedos said it best "I am still not clear on what you say you will do." I'm not the only one who wasn't getting it.



>>Re: Hell trips
>>
>>In the end, this was obviously a character you wanted to
>>explore Hell with, and take whoever you could get to go. It
>>was also fairly obvious, they weren't going to Hell because
>of
>>you. I saw very little leadership from you in the trips, no
>>matter how much you tried to get them to write notes to me,
>to
>>all about your wonderful leadership.
>
>I'm curious what you would consider "good Hell leadership"
>then. I can't do much about like the thing with Llorenz
> especially since I didn't even see it) or Ravon, but beyond
>that I think I did a great job of taking non-experts to Hell
>and accomplishing stuff each time I went.....not to mention
>trying to accomplish stuff in the hardest area of the game
>with 30hp heals. It's pretty hard to bring "proof" beyond 2
>dead archdevils, 2 fought archdevils, and 6 explored circles
>of Hell when you have the abilities of a level 30 uncaballed
>character whose leading the top players of the time
>around....and from what I saw the only one coordinating that
>type of stuff (dealing with 2 sets of empire and scion
>groups). Half the people I took didn't even know the lore or
>what was going on, but I took them anyways.

Typing "group" and seeing your name at the top isn't leading, and it really felt like that's what you thought much of the time. Watching you travel with the Scions, you were a means to their end, nothing more. They weren't listening to you, they were listening to Ravon (and not even all of them were doing that). The best I saw of you was leading the non-caballed/Herald group and making it somewhere, and yet...your groupmates still talked behind your back and via prays that you were not a leader. I really wanted to see what happened with the Imperial vs. Scion groups you kept trying to get together and lead. It was not going to end well for you.



>>Re: Impatience
>>
>>You mention stopping to smell the roses on your Hell trips.
>I
>>think that is the ONLY place you did that. I empowered you
>to
>>30 (when you were at level 18) and the next day you were
>level
>>35 and bitching about not being able to find me. The way I
>>see it, you wrote a role for a hero healer, and that's it,
>and
>>everything else was just "in the way". I wanted to see more
>>from you, and I kept telling you as much.
>
>I guess this is definitely where we differ from me being able
>to play when I have way too much time on my hands and having
>to wait to get skills that long (that arguably aren't much
>better than bards, especially in the solo department). I was
>empowered at level 18 on Nov 24th and in the next 100 hours
>and 20 days I saw you three times, pretty much involving "you
>suck, no go" each time. I should have just taken the hint
>earlier on I guess - not everyone plays as much as I and a few
>others do, but I should have taken that into consideration
>when picking a goal & Imm (Marcatis, why can't you have an
>evil religion ). You can blame the super fast leveling on a
>water shifter named Tiryl...without empowerment waiting at all
>it would have been a lot faster. When you're non-caballed in
>the thirties with your Immortal not around and you can't pk,
>it gets boring real fast.

You saw me 3 times in 20 days, but I saw you much more and you still had done nothing to impress me. People have said it, I'm very difficult at empowerment and not a lot of folks try me or my religion, and I'm fine with that. It gets even more boring when your role is based on accomplishing something as a hero level character and nothing else.

>I had my fun though and hoped I gave other people something to
>remember - I know I wasn't perfect on the religion but I was
>hoping I had enough to get at least full empowerment...guess
>not. If I did it again, I could probably get full empowerment
>as a cookie cutter to a religion - not sure I'd do it again
>though. I'd definitely have to play two characters at once so
>I don't get so impatient. Empowerment just doesn't seem worth
>it unless you get lucky with times/ideas. I can understand
>named priests and tattoes being rough, but empowerment I don't
>think should be so hard....

The fact you got empowered at all is testament to it not being hard. I sure as hell am not going to fully empower anyone who can't even provide a basic understanding of the religion they're after (or the sphere they are focused on) and you did neither.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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