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DaevrynThu 02-Nov-06 12:59 AM
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#52045, "RE: Something I forgot"


          

>Well sure, but I never said a rager should forgo killing a
>mage/enemy in order to loot and destroy the magical items of
>his last kill. I think you're being disingenuous when you
>suggest that I or anyone else actually stands there fighting
>two or three enemies, kills one, then instead of moving on to
>the other starts looting/sac'ing.

Well, right. It's an extreme example to demonstrate that there are cases in which any sane character's top priority is probably not going to be smashing magicstuff.

> The real situation is that
>you fight someone, they die. You have some period of time
>before they can get back to their corpse. Sometimes that time
>is shortened because other looters are around. So the
>question is what do you do in those few seconds/minutes? I
>think undeniably a rager should destroy the magical things.

Of course you do. Not to throw stones from my glass house or anything, but one place I think you can tend to disconnect with other players is that usually you've figured out what you think the right RP answer is, and all other answers are not different so much as wrong. And that's the deal here. I don't think your choice is wrong, I just don't think it's the only right choice.

Putting aside the obvious point that not every Rager is The Archetypal Rager and roles may vary...

I think you can decide what your character's priorities are and there are usually choices that don't involve standing around the corpse systematically saccing all the magic that aren't wrong. Sure, there can be that lull of a few minutes most of the time if you want there to be. Or, you could leave the corpse and keep on trucking down the road looking for more mages to kill. Or onto the next cabal to raid. Or back to the Village to rest up so you're ready to kill the next mage faster. Or back to the Village to down the cabal item you're carrying faster. Or whatever.

I'm not sure how anyone could say it would be wrong for even an archetypal Rager to seek another fight or try to kill another mage vs. being magic-sac-guy.

>As an aside, you had no comments on the character at all here,
>other than on this? Nothing a bit more personal?

I had a couple free minutes at work, and this happened to be the post you got.

I thought Azilaph was an all-around good character.

>I also
>notice you didn't respond to my comments regarding the new
>changes. I get the feeling you just don't want to respond to
>me anymore.

I probably missed that post.

  

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HOT Topic(DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Battle [View all] , Death_Angel, Mon 30-Oct-06 06:32 PM
Reply awesome logs (n/t), appelsien, 13-Nov-06 10:55 PM, #158
Reply Request, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 10:04 PM, #75
Reply RE: Request, Daevryn, 05-Nov-06 10:28 PM, #76
     Reply RE: Request, Graatchman (Guest), 06-Nov-06 12:09 AM, #77
          Reply I would suggest 6 to be more accurate, without actually..., elmeri_, 06-Nov-06 09:39 AM, #78
Reply Logs to go under here. n/t, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 06:56 PM, #65
Reply First batch., Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 06:58 PM, #66
Reply Continued, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:04 PM, #67
Reply Continued, with better editing I hope., Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:10 PM, #68
Reply More, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:14 PM, #69
Reply And more, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:16 PM, #70
Reply Still more, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:17 PM, #71
Reply End of that last one, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:19 PM, #72
Reply End of first batch (might need a continuation reply to ..., Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:20 PM, #73
     Reply End of that last one, as I feared., Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:21 PM, #74
Reply Second batch. n/t, Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:54 PM, #81
Reply Two fights., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:54 PM, #82
Reply formatted, DurNominator, 14-Nov-06 09:21 AM, #159
     Reply Of course you realize..., Azzy (Guest), 14-Nov-06 12:16 PM, #160
          Reply You don't have to be logged on Dio's page, Dwoggurd, 14-Nov-06 01:42 PM, #161
          Reply RE: You don't have to be logged on Dio's page, Azzy (Guest), 14-Nov-06 02:51 PM, #162
               Reply In fact, you can, Dwoggurd, 14-Nov-06 05:38 PM, #163
                    Reply Nope., Azzy (Guest), 14-Nov-06 05:54 PM, #164
                         Reply Yes, Dwoggurd, 14-Nov-06 06:11 PM, #165
          Reply Yes, I know, DurNominator, 14-Nov-06 06:52 PM, #166
Reply Necro fighting., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:55 PM, #83
Reply Mage, empire assassin, mage., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:56 PM, #84
Reply Mage, outlander punk, necro., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:58 PM, #85
Reply Quickie mage, ranger fighting, paladin fighting, ranger..., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:59 PM, #86
Reply Another quickie mage, rangermage, ap with pocket healer..., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:01 PM, #87
Reply Several., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:02 PM, #88
Reply Warrior/bard, conjurer, shifter., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:03 PM, #89
Reply Outlander warrior, ap, shifter., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:05 PM, #90
Reply Outlander stormie warrior, ap(breetai), trib assassin (..., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:06 PM, #91
Reply Few fights, end of second batch., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:07 PM, #92
Reply Third batch, and this one's a doozy. n/t, Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:48 PM, #94
Reply Empire fighting., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:50 PM, #95
Reply End of that log., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:52 PM, #96
Reply Elias' bad day., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:54 PM, #97
Reply Varied., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:55 PM, #98
Reply Good times., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:57 PM, #99
Reply Don't mess with me!, Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:58 PM, #100
Reply End of that one., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:59 PM, #101
Reply Kix are for trids, or Quests are for pks!, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:00 AM, #102
Reply Couple fun ones to read., Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:01 AM, #103
Reply Cant believe you escaped from the ranger...n/t, Lightmaged (Guest), 08-Nov-06 07:28 PM, #116
     Reply You and me both pal., Azilaph, 09-Nov-06 05:01 PM, #126
Reply Outlanders, Outlander, Outlanders, hoooo!!!, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:03 AM, #104
Reply End of that one., Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:06 AM, #105
Reply First one shows my luck, second unhappy mage and healer..., Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:07 AM, #106
Reply Droba v. Rektath, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:08 AM, #107
Reply Long night of Outlander fighting, part I, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:10 AM, #108
Reply Part II, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:13 AM, #109
     Reply Part III (end), Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:14 AM, #110
Reply Mage and Outlander fighting, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:15 AM, #111
Reply Last for tonight. Juvis then Elias., Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:16 AM, #112
Reply No comments at all?, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 06:09 PM, #114
Reply They are....####ING...awesome!!!! Heh., Lightmaged (Guest), 08-Nov-06 06:14 PM, #115
Reply You know..., Dwoggurd, 08-Nov-06 10:21 PM, #117
Reply On that, DurNominator, 10-Nov-06 01:11 PM, #129
Reply Sick, sick, logs, NeverMindTheW (Guest), 09-Nov-06 07:10 AM, #119
Reply How about some logs of you getting pwned? nt, thankyoupleaze (Guest), 09-Nov-06 07:14 AM, #120
Reply RE: How about some logs of you getting pwned? nt, Azilaph, 09-Nov-06 04:48 PM, #124
Reply Like the logs...., Tac, 09-Nov-06 09:32 AM, #121
Reply Nice Logs, Kastellyn, 09-Nov-06 12:26 PM, #122
Reply RE: Nice Logs, Azilaph, 09-Nov-06 04:46 PM, #123
Reply RE: No comments at all?, someone (Guest), 09-Nov-06 10:33 PM, #127
     Reply RE: No comments at all?, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 12:43 AM, #128
          Reply RE: No comments at all?, someone (Guest), 10-Nov-06 08:55 PM, #146
Reply Fourth Batch - Fifth will be last. n/t, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:25 PM, #131
Reply Soliellntah, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:26 PM, #132
Reply Outlander, Tribbie, Empire, oh my!, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:28 PM, #133
Reply Outlander, Tribbie, Empire, oh my! (cont'd), Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:29 PM, #134
     Reply Outlander, Tribbie, Empire, oh my! (end), Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:31 PM, #135
Reply Rhaeth then Spenner then Nordavralk, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:32 PM, #136
Reply Scion Fighting, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:35 PM, #137
Reply Edimus' Bad Night. Part I., Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:37 PM, #138
Reply RE: Edimus' Bad Night. Part II., Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:39 PM, #139
     Reply Edimus' Bad Night. Part III, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:40 PM, #140
          Reply Edimus' Bad Night. Part IV., Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:42 PM, #141
Reply Spenner, Itholin, Orau, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:44 PM, #142
Reply Trib killing then some fortress luck, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:52 PM, #143
Reply Elias' bad day again., Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:58 PM, #144
     Reply That was the last one for tonight. Hope you enjoy. n/t, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:59 PM, #145
Reply Fifth (final) batch of pk wins. n/t, Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:18 PM, #147
     Reply Killing cabal leaders., Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:18 PM, #148
     Reply One of the Micks., Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:19 PM, #149
     Reply Revenge for ####ing up the fourth age. :P, Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:21 PM, #150
     Reply Dimoni then Insularte, Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:21 PM, #151
     Reply The exciting finish., Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:23 PM, #152
     Reply Dinkertot, Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:24 PM, #153
     Reply End of that one., Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:25 PM, #154
     Reply Pyrameth finally gets his., Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:26 PM, #155
     Reply And that's all folks!, Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:28 PM, #156
          Reply Nice. We need a whole damn section for Gratch logs. n..., Lightmaged (Guest), 13-Nov-06 10:54 PM, #157
Reply Good job., Iunna, 04-Nov-06 11:35 AM, #63
Reply One less Todger to Swing!, Trurkrag (Guest), 03-Nov-06 04:37 AM, #60
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Azilaph, 31-Oct-06 08:11 PM, #4
Reply Something I forgot, Azilaph, 31-Oct-06 08:21 PM, #5
Reply I disagree here, Bleh (Guest), 01-Nov-06 09:46 AM, #15
Reply RE: Something I forgot, Daevryn, 01-Nov-06 09:57 AM, #16
Reply RE: Something I forgot, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:45 PM, #25
     Reply RE: Something I forgot, Observer (Guest), 01-Nov-06 05:52 PM, #28
     Reply RE: Something I forgot, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:58 PM, #32
     Reply Dear Anonymous SMUG guy:, Valguarnera, 01-Nov-06 11:44 PM, #44
     Reply RE: Something I forgot, Daevryn, 02-Nov-06 12:59 AM #45
Reply RE: Something I forgot, fadderth, 01-Nov-06 03:48 PM, #23
Reply RE: Something I forgot, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:49 PM, #26
Reply Saccing magical items..., Vlad (Guest), 02-Nov-06 10:33 AM, #52
     Reply Good plan., Tac, 02-Nov-06 10:57 AM, #53
          Reply RE: Good plan = Bad plam, YeahRight (Guest), 02-Nov-06 05:33 PM, #56
               Reply Uhhh no?, Tac, 02-Nov-06 06:01 PM, #57
                    Reply RE: Uhhh no?, Daevryn, 02-Nov-06 09:41 PM, #58
                    Reply I've played the same way.., thinnie (Guest), 02-Nov-06 11:30 PM, #59
                         Reply RE: I've played the same way.., Valkenar, 03-Nov-06 10:54 AM, #61
                              Reply Bah, you're supposed to full sac, Tac, 03-Nov-06 12:11 PM, #62
                              Reply Good point.., thinnie (Guest), 05-Nov-06 05:07 AM, #64
Reply A Quality character from what I saw, Chokiare (Guest), 31-Oct-06 08:32 PM, #6
Reply RE: A Quality character from what I saw, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:49 PM, #27
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Valarael (Guest), 31-Oct-06 08:46 PM, #7
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:53 PM, #29
Reply Hats off to ya man, Rogue, 31-Oct-06 08:53 PM, #8
Reply RE: Hats off to ya man, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:54 PM, #30
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Lyristeon, 31-Oct-06 08:54 PM, #9
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:57 PM, #31
     Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Lyristeon, 02-Nov-06 08:32 AM, #47
Reply RE: Logs:, Valguarnera, 31-Oct-06 09:12 PM, #10
Reply RE: Logs:, Valkenar, 01-Nov-06 10:31 AM, #17
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Gerhaul (Guest), 31-Oct-06 09:55 PM, #11
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:05 PM, #33
     Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Gerhaul (Guest), 02-Nov-06 04:03 AM, #46
Reply Nice one, Lightmaged (Guest), 31-Oct-06 09:59 PM, #12
Reply RE: Nice one, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:06 PM, #34
Reply Impressive to say the least. I knew it was Graatch the..., Dhaezym (Guest), 31-Oct-06 11:10 PM, #13
Reply RE: Impressive to say the least. I knew it was Graatch..., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:07 PM, #35
     Reply Sorry I'm late with the reply, RL kicking me in the ass..., Dhaezym (Guest), 09-Nov-06 02:37 AM, #118
Reply I really enjoyed Azilaph, Twist, 01-Nov-06 12:32 AM, #14
Reply RE: I really enjoyed Azilaph, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:10 PM, #36
     Reply RE: I really enjoyed Azilaph, Twist, 01-Nov-06 11:44 PM, #43
          Reply RE: I really enjoyed Azilaph, Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 01:55 PM, #79
               Reply I actually didn't look., Twist, 06-Nov-06 05:53 PM, #80
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Uthenathien (Guest), 01-Nov-06 12:17 PM, #18
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:14 PM, #37
Reply A hard battle, Draktel (Guest), 01-Nov-06 12:27 PM, #19
Reply RE: A hard battle, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:21 PM, #38
Reply Well Played!, Kastellyn, 01-Nov-06 01:31 PM, #20
Reply RE: Well Played!, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:24 PM, #39
Reply I thought it was common knowledge ~, Abernytee (Guest), 02-Nov-06 10:18 AM, #50
Reply Well Played, Ysaloerye, 01-Nov-06 02:13 PM, #21
Reply RE: Well Played, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:27 PM, #40
Reply I'd really like your opinion on me, Rektath (Guest), 01-Nov-06 03:12 PM, #22
Reply RE: I'd really like your opinion on me, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:11 PM, #24
     Reply RE: I'd really like your opinion on me, Inquirer (Guest), 02-Nov-06 12:54 PM, #55
     Reply RE: I'd really like your opinion on me, Rektath (Guest), 07-Nov-06 06:55 PM, #93
          Reply RE: I'd really like your opinion on me, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 06:07 PM, #113
Reply Fun fights., Arghuz (Guest), 02-Nov-06 09:15 AM, #48
Reply arvam is "dormant" man..., Vlad (Guest), 02-Nov-06 10:23 AM, #51
Reply Bye, Edimus (Guest), 02-Nov-06 12:40 PM, #54
     Reply You made me think, that's for sure., Azilaph, 09-Nov-06 04:55 PM, #125
          Reply RE: You made me think, that's for sure., Edimus (Guest), 10-Nov-06 01:40 PM, #130
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Rektath (Guest), 30-Oct-06 06:12 PM, #2
Reply That's too bad there., Daelen (Guest), 29-Oct-06 08:04 AM, #1
     Reply He gives himself away when he does that., Pro-man (Guest), 30-Oct-06 01:22 AM, #3
     Reply Who did you think it was?, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:33 PM, #42
          Reply Don't know the player, but..., Pro-man (Guest), 02-Nov-06 10:12 AM, #49
     Reply RE: That's too bad there., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:32 PM, #41
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