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AzilaphWed 01-Nov-06 05:11 PM
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#52019, "RE: I'd really like your opinion on me"


          

I intended to respond to all of these tonight, I'm at work and don't have the time I'd like to give thoughtful responses to everyone. But I'll answer yours now, as you have directly asked for it.

It's not really flame-y. The ic problems I had were different from the ooc problem I had. Allow me to explain. In a nutshell, I don't mind if the commander and drillmaster want to make a new policy, want to change things, want to do things differently than the village has done before. I might not like the change, but I recognize their authority to do so. What I do mind, and think is just plain wrong, is when they make the change and say that anyone who thinks or acts differently not only goes against their new policy, but is "not a real villager" or "undeserving to have a hut". Because we all know that if Thrym or Thror or Redik or any of the other names on the pillar woke up one day and were in the village, and acted as they had before, nobody is going to say they are not good villagers or don't have the right heart or courage. So, for example, when you guys decided to make the rule that you can't call anyone who isn't a villager or village applicant to defend the giant - when no rager is in pk of the enemy - that was new. I disagree with it, but fine, your call. But to take that extra step and say anyone who would even do that could not possibly be a good rager, could not have what it takes to be a rager, is just absurd. Forget the fact that I've done it with both of my ragers on the pillar, I've seen and heard other ragers, some on the pillar too, do exactly that. I've been asked by ragers when I am playing a non-rager (non-mage or enemy of course) to come defend if none of the ragers can fight the enemy. And so when you make these pronouncements, when you say it's not just that it's my way or the highway, but rather that your way is the only way a villager could possibly be, then I have a problem. This of course isn't just you, it's Yuvralin, but you were the one most vocal about it. That bothers me.

Also, I know - and now everyone knows from my pbf - that i was pretty much a solo killer, and that the few times I engaged in fights where odds were in my favor were either raids or the rare exception. But you made comments - in game and here, below, in your first reply to my death - that you heard otherwise. That's fine, people talk #### about ragers all the time, nothing new there. But you behaved as though you were ready and even wanting to give what they said more credence than what I said. That was disturbing. You're playing a hard ass, I know, I did some of that with Vershelt as drillmaster, but at least at first I think it's bad form to not trust the word of your own villager against outsiders. If it were other villagers, ok, then maybe you have a problem to figure out. But outsiders? Enemies? Not so much.

Lastly, you were by far the stingiest with bandages of any defender I'd ever encountered. Well, Uthenathian was very close second. You would be at near full mana and standing next to a rager who was near death, and you wouldn't bandage or poultice. People had to ask for them. Again, you're playing a hard ass, but that always bugs me, personally. And with you it was even more egregious because you were taking such a hard stance on not needlessly dying or sacrificing other villagers, namely the giant. So you were concerned with keeping him healthy, but not any other villager. That struck me as somewhat contradictory and problematic.

I realize that this is a long-ish post with lots of negative things. Please don't walk away from it thinking I thought you were a bad rager. You asked for what I didn't like, and so I said so. But there were a lot of good qualities, too. It's not easy to be the hard ass, the unpleasant, the strict character. But you stick to it religiously, and rarely did I see what I think is the player's personality peep out from behind the character's. As a result of me being generally a solo killer I don't get much chance to watch other villagers fight, but from what I saw you were very talented and had a good grasp on how to use the weapons and specs you chose. I also liked that you put rp before powergaming, and used your drillmaster dagger even against enemies who are resist_poison, like dwarves in the circle. It's little things like that which make a character stand out. Likewise I thought you were generally good about marshalling people to go take items, to participate in the cabal wars, rather than just wait for things to happen. I almost always try to do that with my characters, too. And finally I liked that while you stuck to your guns being evil (you're a duerg, don't forget that!) you were also a defender and were willing (with plenty of snorts and complaints, as you should) to help others regear or explore or do what they wanted. It's the bane of a defender's life that he will always be wanted by other ragers when they go equ gathering. It's like interviewing, it's a chore that comes with the job. You handled that well.

Anyway, the character pretty much hated you for the way you treated him. The player thought you were doing a pretty good job, just with the issues I described above. On balance definitely on the "good" side. For what it's worth....

  

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HOT Topic(DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Battle [View all] , Death_Angel, Mon 30-Oct-06 06:32 PM
Reply awesome logs (n/t), appelsien, 13-Nov-06 10:55 PM, #158
Reply Request, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 10:04 PM, #75
Reply RE: Request, Daevryn, 05-Nov-06 10:28 PM, #76
     Reply RE: Request, Graatchman (Guest), 06-Nov-06 12:09 AM, #77
          Reply I would suggest 6 to be more accurate, without actually..., elmeri_, 06-Nov-06 09:39 AM, #78
Reply Logs to go under here. n/t, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 06:56 PM, #65
Reply First batch., Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 06:58 PM, #66
Reply Continued, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:04 PM, #67
Reply Continued, with better editing I hope., Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:10 PM, #68
Reply More, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:14 PM, #69
Reply And more, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:16 PM, #70
Reply Still more, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:17 PM, #71
Reply End of that last one, Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:19 PM, #72
Reply End of first batch (might need a continuation reply to ..., Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:20 PM, #73
     Reply End of that last one, as I feared., Azilaph, 05-Nov-06 07:21 PM, #74
Reply Second batch. n/t, Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:54 PM, #81
Reply Two fights., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:54 PM, #82
Reply formatted, DurNominator, 14-Nov-06 09:21 AM, #159
     Reply Of course you realize..., Azzy (Guest), 14-Nov-06 12:16 PM, #160
          Reply You don't have to be logged on Dio's page, Dwoggurd, 14-Nov-06 01:42 PM, #161
          Reply RE: You don't have to be logged on Dio's page, Azzy (Guest), 14-Nov-06 02:51 PM, #162
               Reply In fact, you can, Dwoggurd, 14-Nov-06 05:38 PM, #163
                    Reply Nope., Azzy (Guest), 14-Nov-06 05:54 PM, #164
                         Reply Yes, Dwoggurd, 14-Nov-06 06:11 PM, #165
          Reply Yes, I know, DurNominator, 14-Nov-06 06:52 PM, #166
Reply Necro fighting., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:55 PM, #83
Reply Mage, empire assassin, mage., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:56 PM, #84
Reply Mage, outlander punk, necro., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:58 PM, #85
Reply Quickie mage, ranger fighting, paladin fighting, ranger..., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 09:59 PM, #86
Reply Another quickie mage, rangermage, ap with pocket healer..., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:01 PM, #87
Reply Several., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:02 PM, #88
Reply Warrior/bard, conjurer, shifter., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:03 PM, #89
Reply Outlander warrior, ap, shifter., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:05 PM, #90
Reply Outlander stormie warrior, ap(breetai), trib assassin (..., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:06 PM, #91
Reply Few fights, end of second batch., Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 10:07 PM, #92
Reply Third batch, and this one's a doozy. n/t, Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:48 PM, #94
Reply Empire fighting., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:50 PM, #95
Reply End of that log., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:52 PM, #96
Reply Elias' bad day., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:54 PM, #97
Reply Varied., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:55 PM, #98
Reply Good times., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:57 PM, #99
Reply Don't mess with me!, Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:58 PM, #100
Reply End of that one., Azilaph, 07-Nov-06 11:59 PM, #101
Reply Kix are for trids, or Quests are for pks!, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:00 AM, #102
Reply Couple fun ones to read., Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:01 AM, #103
Reply Cant believe you escaped from the ranger...n/t, Lightmaged (Guest), 08-Nov-06 07:28 PM, #116
     Reply You and me both pal., Azilaph, 09-Nov-06 05:01 PM, #126
Reply Outlanders, Outlander, Outlanders, hoooo!!!, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:03 AM, #104
Reply End of that one., Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:06 AM, #105
Reply First one shows my luck, second unhappy mage and healer..., Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:07 AM, #106
Reply Droba v. Rektath, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:08 AM, #107
Reply Long night of Outlander fighting, part I, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:10 AM, #108
Reply Part II, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:13 AM, #109
     Reply Part III (end), Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:14 AM, #110
Reply Mage and Outlander fighting, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:15 AM, #111
Reply Last for tonight. Juvis then Elias., Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 12:16 AM, #112
Reply No comments at all?, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 06:09 PM, #114
Reply They are....####ING...awesome!!!! Heh., Lightmaged (Guest), 08-Nov-06 06:14 PM, #115
Reply You know..., Dwoggurd, 08-Nov-06 10:21 PM, #117
Reply On that, DurNominator, 10-Nov-06 01:11 PM, #129
Reply Sick, sick, logs, NeverMindTheW (Guest), 09-Nov-06 07:10 AM, #119
Reply How about some logs of you getting pwned? nt, thankyoupleaze (Guest), 09-Nov-06 07:14 AM, #120
Reply RE: How about some logs of you getting pwned? nt, Azilaph, 09-Nov-06 04:48 PM, #124
Reply Like the logs...., Tac, 09-Nov-06 09:32 AM, #121
Reply Nice Logs, Kastellyn, 09-Nov-06 12:26 PM, #122
Reply RE: Nice Logs, Azilaph, 09-Nov-06 04:46 PM, #123
Reply RE: No comments at all?, someone (Guest), 09-Nov-06 10:33 PM, #127
     Reply RE: No comments at all?, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 12:43 AM, #128
          Reply RE: No comments at all?, someone (Guest), 10-Nov-06 08:55 PM, #146
Reply Fourth Batch - Fifth will be last. n/t, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:25 PM, #131
Reply Soliellntah, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:26 PM, #132
Reply Outlander, Tribbie, Empire, oh my!, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:28 PM, #133
Reply Outlander, Tribbie, Empire, oh my! (cont'd), Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:29 PM, #134
     Reply Outlander, Tribbie, Empire, oh my! (end), Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:31 PM, #135
Reply Rhaeth then Spenner then Nordavralk, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:32 PM, #136
Reply Scion Fighting, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:35 PM, #137
Reply Edimus' Bad Night. Part I., Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:37 PM, #138
Reply RE: Edimus' Bad Night. Part II., Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:39 PM, #139
     Reply Edimus' Bad Night. Part III, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:40 PM, #140
          Reply Edimus' Bad Night. Part IV., Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:42 PM, #141
Reply Spenner, Itholin, Orau, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:44 PM, #142
Reply Trib killing then some fortress luck, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:52 PM, #143
Reply Elias' bad day again., Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:58 PM, #144
     Reply That was the last one for tonight. Hope you enjoy. n/t, Azilaph, 10-Nov-06 07:59 PM, #145
Reply Fifth (final) batch of pk wins. n/t, Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:18 PM, #147
     Reply Killing cabal leaders., Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:18 PM, #148
     Reply One of the Micks., Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:19 PM, #149
     Reply Revenge for ####ing up the fourth age. :P, Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:21 PM, #150
     Reply Dimoni then Insularte, Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:21 PM, #151
     Reply The exciting finish., Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:23 PM, #152
     Reply Dinkertot, Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:24 PM, #153
     Reply End of that one., Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:25 PM, #154
     Reply Pyrameth finally gets his., Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:26 PM, #155
     Reply And that's all folks!, Azilaph, 13-Nov-06 09:28 PM, #156
          Reply Nice. We need a whole damn section for Gratch logs. n..., Lightmaged (Guest), 13-Nov-06 10:54 PM, #157
Reply Good job., Iunna, 04-Nov-06 11:35 AM, #63
Reply One less Todger to Swing!, Trurkrag (Guest), 03-Nov-06 04:37 AM, #60
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Azilaph, 31-Oct-06 08:11 PM, #4
Reply Something I forgot, Azilaph, 31-Oct-06 08:21 PM, #5
Reply I disagree here, Bleh (Guest), 01-Nov-06 09:46 AM, #15
Reply RE: Something I forgot, Daevryn, 01-Nov-06 09:57 AM, #16
Reply RE: Something I forgot, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:45 PM, #25
     Reply RE: Something I forgot, Observer (Guest), 01-Nov-06 05:52 PM, #28
     Reply RE: Something I forgot, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:58 PM, #32
     Reply Dear Anonymous SMUG guy:, Valguarnera, 01-Nov-06 11:44 PM, #44
     Reply RE: Something I forgot, Daevryn, 02-Nov-06 12:59 AM, #45
Reply RE: Something I forgot, fadderth, 01-Nov-06 03:48 PM, #23
Reply RE: Something I forgot, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:49 PM, #26
Reply Saccing magical items..., Vlad (Guest), 02-Nov-06 10:33 AM, #52
     Reply Good plan., Tac, 02-Nov-06 10:57 AM, #53
          Reply RE: Good plan = Bad plam, YeahRight (Guest), 02-Nov-06 05:33 PM, #56
               Reply Uhhh no?, Tac, 02-Nov-06 06:01 PM, #57
                    Reply RE: Uhhh no?, Daevryn, 02-Nov-06 09:41 PM, #58
                    Reply I've played the same way.., thinnie (Guest), 02-Nov-06 11:30 PM, #59
                         Reply RE: I've played the same way.., Valkenar, 03-Nov-06 10:54 AM, #61
                              Reply Bah, you're supposed to full sac, Tac, 03-Nov-06 12:11 PM, #62
                              Reply Good point.., thinnie (Guest), 05-Nov-06 05:07 AM, #64
Reply A Quality character from what I saw, Chokiare (Guest), 31-Oct-06 08:32 PM, #6
Reply RE: A Quality character from what I saw, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:49 PM, #27
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Valarael (Guest), 31-Oct-06 08:46 PM, #7
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:53 PM, #29
Reply Hats off to ya man, Rogue, 31-Oct-06 08:53 PM, #8
Reply RE: Hats off to ya man, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:54 PM, #30
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Lyristeon, 31-Oct-06 08:54 PM, #9
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:57 PM, #31
     Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Lyristeon, 02-Nov-06 08:32 AM, #47
Reply RE: Logs:, Valguarnera, 31-Oct-06 09:12 PM, #10
Reply RE: Logs:, Valkenar, 01-Nov-06 10:31 AM, #17
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Gerhaul (Guest), 31-Oct-06 09:55 PM, #11
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:05 PM, #33
     Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Gerhaul (Guest), 02-Nov-06 04:03 AM, #46
Reply Nice one, Lightmaged (Guest), 31-Oct-06 09:59 PM, #12
Reply RE: Nice one, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:06 PM, #34
Reply Impressive to say the least. I knew it was Graatch the..., Dhaezym (Guest), 31-Oct-06 11:10 PM, #13
Reply RE: Impressive to say the least. I knew it was Graatch..., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:07 PM, #35
     Reply Sorry I'm late with the reply, RL kicking me in the ass..., Dhaezym (Guest), 09-Nov-06 02:37 AM, #118
Reply I really enjoyed Azilaph, Twist, 01-Nov-06 12:32 AM, #14
Reply RE: I really enjoyed Azilaph, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:10 PM, #36
     Reply RE: I really enjoyed Azilaph, Twist, 01-Nov-06 11:44 PM, #43
          Reply RE: I really enjoyed Azilaph, Azilaph, 06-Nov-06 01:55 PM, #79
               Reply I actually didn't look., Twist, 06-Nov-06 05:53 PM, #80
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Uthenathien (Guest), 01-Nov-06 12:17 PM, #18
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:14 PM, #37
Reply A hard battle, Draktel (Guest), 01-Nov-06 12:27 PM, #19
Reply RE: A hard battle, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:21 PM, #38
Reply Well Played!, Kastellyn, 01-Nov-06 01:31 PM, #20
Reply RE: Well Played!, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:24 PM, #39
Reply I thought it was common knowledge ~, Abernytee (Guest), 02-Nov-06 10:18 AM, #50
Reply Well Played, Ysaloerye, 01-Nov-06 02:13 PM, #21
Reply RE: Well Played, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:27 PM, #40
Reply I'd really like your opinion on me, Rektath (Guest), 01-Nov-06 03:12 PM, #22
Reply RE: I'd really like your opinion on me, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 05:11 PM #24
     Reply RE: I'd really like your opinion on me, Inquirer (Guest), 02-Nov-06 12:54 PM, #55
     Reply RE: I'd really like your opinion on me, Rektath (Guest), 07-Nov-06 06:55 PM, #93
          Reply RE: I'd really like your opinion on me, Azilaph, 08-Nov-06 06:07 PM, #113
Reply Fun fights., Arghuz (Guest), 02-Nov-06 09:15 AM, #48
Reply arvam is "dormant" man..., Vlad (Guest), 02-Nov-06 10:23 AM, #51
Reply Bye, Edimus (Guest), 02-Nov-06 12:40 PM, #54
     Reply You made me think, that's for sure., Azilaph, 09-Nov-06 04:55 PM, #125
          Reply RE: You made me think, that's for sure., Edimus (Guest), 10-Nov-06 01:40 PM, #130
Reply RE: (DELETED) [BATTLE] Azilaph the Free, Veteran of Bat..., Rektath (Guest), 30-Oct-06 06:12 PM, #2
Reply That's too bad there., Daelen (Guest), 29-Oct-06 08:04 AM, #1
     Reply He gives himself away when he does that., Pro-man (Guest), 30-Oct-06 01:22 AM, #3
     Reply Who did you think it was?, Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:33 PM, #42
          Reply Don't know the player, but..., Pro-man (Guest), 02-Nov-06 10:12 AM, #49
     Reply RE: That's too bad there., Azilaph, 01-Nov-06 06:32 PM, #41
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