lasentia | Fri 23-Mar-12 07:29 AM |
Member since 27th Apr 2010
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#107711, "That's just it."
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Allysia is one character, not every character I've ever played, but I suppose that's fair to assume.
Raiding: Inners +1 defender make it hard to raid against as a solo attacker. That's just all there is to it. Retrievals are a different story. But to actually raid nexus, it's going to take two + villagers usually to get past one nexus defender of any class. Jhappil at the inners I would bet on 9 times out of 10 vs. any lone raiding villager.
Command denial That's just a no. Berserkers have a decent chance kill someone while being lagged like that, and last I checked there are scouts and defenders. I say villagers, I did not say berserkers. But yeah, you're right, DB is the most OP thing in the game, I forgot. A nexus char has much better ways to avoid ever being in a situation where he can be lagged out compared to what a battlerager has. Yes, DB might save a villager in 10% of those situations (defenders and scouts will just die). Most other times though, the berserker just dies as well.
This topic. I'm looking at both sides of this because I've seen both sides, same as Solec did. There is merit to the things Jhappil and Bolzhor said and so I add in my own thoughts because I've played a similar character- a powerhouse build against villagers (and yes, porc/dillo/manticore is a power build against them) and so I have the persepective of knowing what battleragers do in response to those characters, which when added with the other characters I've played in the past four years in fact grants me a little of the perspective you seem to think I lack needed to comment when people talk about these things.
And viewing Solec as a def/def shifter is sort of laughable, because much as I liked him, the manticore is what made him deadly and got him 80% of his PKS probably. Solec was great for his RP in my opinion, PK is secondary to that always in my book. Allysia did have a higher one, but that is pretty much unrelated to a discussion about Solec. I think Bolzhor said something on Allysia's death thread about how there was just nothing he could do when he fought Allysia alone. But you can see my thought on the gank-o-meter posted below if you want to know what I think about that statistic and anyone who bothers to use it in any sort of argument.
Jhappil raised a point about villagers whining about being ganged and then ganging others in raids. Bolzhor thought Solec ganged a lot. Jhappils' right, the BAttleragers do that, and they should if they actually want to complete the raid and not have any of theirs die. Solec fought a lot, but lots of times he likely wouldn't get a solo kill because people escaped him- and getting the Key back with one or two guys helping against four villagers just skews his numbers higher. I've defended both sides because most people have one sided views on this and it's getting old when people make claims that completely disregard anothers.
I thoroughly enjoyed Solec's character, and really the things I have said are in relation to the nexus/battle dynamic far more so than anything to do with specific characters.
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(CON LOSS) [NEXUS] Solec of WillowWood, the Embodiment ...
[View all] , Death_Angel, Mon 19-Mar-12 07:58 PM
Going to throw my contacts if anyone wants to chat/know...,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
26-Mar-12 02:19 PM, #123
Was really unimpressed with Solec,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
21-Mar-12 06:56 PM, #41
This just makes me sad to read.,
Puhguly,
21-Mar-12 10:44 PM, #42
Boo this man..... BOOOOOOO n/t,
Booing Person (Anonymous),
21-Mar-12 11:34 PM, #43
Is there something wrong with killing BATTLE,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 03:59 AM, #44
RE: Was really unimpressed with Solec,
Daevryn,
22-Mar-12 06:46 AM, #45
An issue he is raising is,
Quixotic,
22-Mar-12 07:05 AM, #46
Who cares.,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 09:48 AM, #48
he did hunt fort when light tipped,
laxman,
22-Mar-12 10:05 AM, #51
2 Fortress kills in 827 hours.,
ibuki,
22-Mar-12 01:58 PM, #89
No reason to focus on just Fort,
AXera,
22-Mar-12 11:02 PM, #104
RE: No reason to focus on just Fort,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
25-Mar-12 07:28 AM, #109
He would've had more...,
Illanthos,
23-Mar-12 12:36 AM, #105
I give up!,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 09:43 AM, #47
RE: I give up!,
Daevryn,
22-Mar-12 09:51 AM, #49
Now my opinion is stupid?,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 10:03 AM, #50
RE: Now my opinion is stupid?,
Daevryn,
22-Mar-12 10:11 AM, #52
RE: Now my opinion is stupid?,
Illanthos,
22-Mar-12 10:12 AM, #53
THIS,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 11:45 AM, #56
That's funny.,
lasentia,
22-Mar-12 12:45 PM, #75
Thank you for this post,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:57 PM, #79
RE: Thank you for this post,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 01:39 PM, #87
Let me elaborate ,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 01:56 PM, #88
RE: Let me elaborate ,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 02:11 PM, #92
Well sorry your not impressived by an 800 hour plus cha...,
Tesline,
23-Mar-12 04:29 AM, #106
Are you kidding?,
Onewingedangel,
27-Mar-12 01:28 AM, #125
You're crazy. Ragers piss lightning bolts and #### thu...,
TMNS,
22-Mar-12 04:27 PM, #99
Oh come on,
AXera,
22-Mar-12 10:21 PM, #103
That's just it.,
lasentia,
23-Mar-12 07:29 AM #107
RE: That's just it.,
Daevryn,
23-Mar-12 07:47 AM, #108
I regret my tone,
AXera,
26-Mar-12 09:03 AM, #116
Maybe I missed it?,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:27 PM, #69
So your judging a character of over 800 hours,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 01:26 PM, #86
Why o Why does everyone think Vanguard is useless again...,
TMNS,
22-Mar-12 04:24 PM, #98
Vanguard,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 04:33 PM, #100
RE: Vanguard,
Rayihn,
22-Mar-12 04:51 PM, #101
Out of curiosity, why do you think the bond is a nexus ...,
Bubthegreat,
25-Mar-12 05:15 PM, #111
RE: Out of curiosity, why do you think the bond is a ne...,
Graatch,
25-Mar-12 06:01 PM, #112
Marans cry is the same thing. Promotes group Pk.,
Gaplemo,
25-Mar-12 10:11 PM, #113
Resist is a tough power to compete it.,
DurNominator,
25-Mar-12 10:40 PM, #114
I tend to fight them 1v1 way too often,
AXera,
26-Mar-12 08:49 AM, #115
What about non RBW types?,
Kalageadon,
26-Mar-12 11:31 AM, #117
RE: What about non RBW types?,
Daevryn,
26-Mar-12 11:34 AM, #118
How does that work?,
Valkenar,
26-Mar-12 12:47 PM, #119
RE: How does that work?,
Daevryn,
26-Mar-12 01:00 PM, #122
RE: How does that work?,
Valkenar,
26-Mar-12 06:24 PM, #124
Amen kemosabe. A-freaking-Men. NT,
TMNS,
26-Mar-12 12:57 PM, #121
2 on 1 is NOT a gang dude.,
TMNS,
26-Mar-12 12:55 PM, #120
One question these pbf stats do raise is:,
Malakhi,
22-Mar-12 10:17 AM, #54
Absolutely this.,
Artificial,
22-Mar-12 11:27 AM, #55
RE: Absolutely this.,
sezdral,
22-Mar-12 11:47 AM, #57
I think a lot of Battle ragers should be true neutral t...,
lasentia,
22-Mar-12 12:19 PM, #66
I ran the numbers on all rager PBF:s,
Marcus_,
22-Mar-12 01:17 PM, #84
Yay! In the 9% :) NT,
TMNS,
22-Mar-12 04:22 PM, #97
I agree too,
sezdral,
22-Mar-12 01:59 PM, #90
Battle tends towards Chaotic Neutral mostly in concept.,
TMNS,
22-Mar-12 04:21 PM, #96
An Apology,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 11:53 AM, #58
?,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:24 PM, #67
Gang-o-meters are just bad.,
lasentia,
22-Mar-12 01:06 PM, #80
You like numbers? Some solo PK's.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 01:10 PM, #83
So you like numbers Part 2.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 01:19 PM, #85
Your data means nothing, this is CarrionFields - You fo...,
Bertmaern (Anonymous),
28-Mar-12 08:45 AM, #126
RE: An Apology,
DurNominator,
22-Mar-12 02:04 PM, #91
I was voicing more on characters, not players.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 03:39 PM, #94
Stop looking only at the numbers you want too.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 03:42 PM, #95
Second Round of Goodbyes!,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 10:52 AM, #35
RE: Second Round of Goodbyes!,
Illanthos,
20-Mar-12 01:47 PM, #38
Thanks, man.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:58 PM, #81
No goodbyes for Fjodir?! :(,
Amberion,
20-Mar-12 02:04 PM, #39
I can't believe I forgot Fjodir,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:54 PM, #78
RE: Second Round of Goodbyes!,
Onya (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 04:03 PM, #40
Roleplay and the first set of Goodbyes!,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 06:50 PM, #18
Gaunting shapeshifters rarely did much,
Artificial,
19-Mar-12 06:59 PM, #16
RE: Roleplay and the first set of Goodbyes!,
Rayihn,
19-Mar-12 07:15 PM, #17
Our interactions became amazing.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:51 PM, #77
Oops,
Rayihn,
22-Mar-12 01:05 PM, #82
No worries, I laughed when it happened.,
Salyeris (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 05:33 PM, #102
RE: Roleplay and the first set of Goodbyes!,
Jastyna (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 07:30 PM, #20
Lullaby always worked on me.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:45 PM, #76
Said some stuff in my goodbye but I'll hash some more o...,
Atracius (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 07:54 PM, #21
Another of my favourite enemies.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:43 PM, #74
Love/Hate are the words of the day.,
Mauz (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 08:48 PM, #22
I offered positions in Nexus,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:39 PM, #73
Fantastic Char,
Puhguly,
19-Mar-12 08:59 PM, #23
You did that whole post without a smirk.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:35 PM, #72
Time to fess up!,
AXera,
19-Mar-12 09:09 PM, #24
I also voted for Gdot.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:33 PM, #71
Wow what a sad day.,
Ghafler (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 12:24 AM, #26
Haha,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:30 PM, #70
Bye,
Omaga (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 01:01 AM, #27
You have no idea how much I liked Omaga.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:26 PM, #68
Thanks,
Omaga (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 02:29 PM, #93
WHAT about your friendly neighbourhood gorilla,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 04:33 AM, #29
What can I say?,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:19 PM, #65
assassinating Solec,
Iepnier (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 07:09 AM, #30
I didn't complain about you.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:15 PM, #64
RE: Roleplay and the first set of Goodbyes!,
Daevryn,
20-Mar-12 07:41 AM, #31
Might I offer a request then?,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 10:08 AM, #33
Similar thought I've had,
Dallevian,
20-Mar-12 10:48 AM, #34
Nicely done.,
Allysia (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 07:43 AM, #32
You were a monster,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:11 PM, #63
Very impressive character.,
Tesline,
20-Mar-12 11:56 AM, #36
RE: Roleplay and the first set of Goodbyes!,
Faru (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 01:09 PM, #37
Only 1 disappointment in my eyes.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:09 PM, #62
Solec's Mechanics and Thoughts.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 04:55 PM, #14
RE: Manticore,
Zulghinlour,
19-Mar-12 06:21 PM, #15
Great character!,
Yindathos (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 04:54 PM, #13
Though I prefer serious characters,,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:05 PM, #61
Truly great character!,
Whiysdan,
19-Mar-12 04:10 PM, #11
Truthfully,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:03 PM, #60
Well Done!,
Swabaum (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 03:51 PM, #10
What a fine job.,
Dallevian,
19-Mar-12 02:30 PM, #6
Awesome char. Was glad they gave you manticore.,
TMNS,
19-Mar-12 01:16 PM, #4
Mmmm...manticore (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
19-Mar-12 02:27 PM, #5
I will not stop until I get the Trogdor quest form.,
TMNS,
19-Mar-12 03:27 PM, #7
Join the club,
Abernyte,
20-Mar-12 04:28 AM, #28
RE: Join the club,
Catastrophic,
25-Mar-12 08:43 AM, #110
How do you get those kind of forms? n/t,
Formguy (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 03:42 PM, #8
RE: How do you get those kind of forms? n/t,
Rayihn,
19-Mar-12 03:46 PM, #9
cough. nt,
Artificial,
19-Mar-12 04:29 PM, #12
RE: cough. nt,
Rayihn,
19-Mar-12 07:19 PM, #19
Wondered,
Tairneach (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 12:54 PM, #3
Great character.,
Twist,
19-Mar-12 12:38 PM, #2
Interesting Statistic.,
Kalageadon,
19-Mar-12 09:12 PM, #25
RE: (CON LOSS) [NEXUS] Solec of WillowWood, the Embodim...,
Belgha (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 12:24 PM, #1
You had some serious damage output.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 11:56 AM, #59
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