lasentia | Thu 22-Mar-12 12:58 PM |
Member since 27th Apr 2010
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#107670, "Gang-o-meters are just bad."
Edited on Thu 22-Mar-12 01:06 PM
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It's an incomplete statistic which in no way illustrates the whole truth of anything for a lot of classes. Three on three raid. Kill one. 3.0 gang rating. Kill all three, you have three threes. Congratulations, you get a high gang o-meter for effectively fighting against other large groups in what most no CF player would consider actually ganging of someone.
I sleep a guy, his cabal mate comes and wakes him by hitting him, I still kill him. 2.0 gang rating for me.
I hit guy, he flees, dies to unrelated two man gang after he words/teleports. 3.0 gang rating for me.
It's such an honestly flawed statistic I'm surprised people even reference it as a basis for any opinion given the inherent flaws it has and what can put a person into affecting a PK stat to make it X vs 4 or something.
Since it ignores the group size of the dead people, it's just irrelevant. Does it show how many attempted PKs where nobody dies? No. Does it show how many defenders there actually were? No. Does it take into account completely unrelated things which happen soon enough to one another to be considered part of the same PK? No.
What does it say? When someone you did something to in PK dies to something that triggers as a PK, how many people were involved in some way in killing him without regard for how much aid or assistance that person had.
Perhaps it would be meaningful if everytime a person has a 0% by their name it was eliminated. And it took into account group size of the deceased so that is accurately read 3 v. 3 3 times instead of 3 v. 1 three times. And even then, battle has less incentive to be in the same group because trust cabal takes care of most of what they need anyway, so they would avoid grouping together while defending and still skew numbers.
I editted this because I should say I'm sorry. This came off worse than it was supposed to and has nothing to do with people's opinions, it's just my own on what I think is a flawed statistic.
Gank-o-meters just annoy me given how fond people are of using them to support claims that really are unfounded or just wrong.
So I'm sorry to Bolzhor, not meaning to attack your thoughts or anything.
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(CON LOSS) [NEXUS] Solec of WillowWood, the Embodiment ...
[View all] , Death_Angel, Mon 19-Mar-12 07:58 PM
Going to throw my contacts if anyone wants to chat/know...,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
26-Mar-12 02:19 PM, #123
Was really unimpressed with Solec,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
21-Mar-12 06:56 PM, #41
This just makes me sad to read.,
Puhguly,
21-Mar-12 10:44 PM, #42
Boo this man..... BOOOOOOO n/t,
Booing Person (Anonymous),
21-Mar-12 11:34 PM, #43
Is there something wrong with killing BATTLE,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 03:59 AM, #44
RE: Was really unimpressed with Solec,
Daevryn,
22-Mar-12 06:46 AM, #45
An issue he is raising is,
Quixotic,
22-Mar-12 07:05 AM, #46
Who cares.,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 09:48 AM, #48
he did hunt fort when light tipped,
laxman,
22-Mar-12 10:05 AM, #51
2 Fortress kills in 827 hours.,
ibuki,
22-Mar-12 01:58 PM, #89
No reason to focus on just Fort,
AXera,
22-Mar-12 11:02 PM, #104
RE: No reason to focus on just Fort,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
25-Mar-12 07:28 AM, #109
He would've had more...,
Illanthos,
23-Mar-12 12:36 AM, #105
I give up!,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 09:43 AM, #47
RE: I give up!,
Daevryn,
22-Mar-12 09:51 AM, #49
Now my opinion is stupid?,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 10:03 AM, #50
RE: Now my opinion is stupid?,
Daevryn,
22-Mar-12 10:11 AM, #52
RE: Now my opinion is stupid?,
Illanthos,
22-Mar-12 10:12 AM, #53
THIS,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 11:45 AM, #56
That's funny.,
lasentia,
22-Mar-12 12:45 PM, #75
Thank you for this post,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:57 PM, #79
RE: Thank you for this post,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 01:39 PM, #87
Let me elaborate ,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 01:56 PM, #88
RE: Let me elaborate ,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 02:11 PM, #92
Well sorry your not impressived by an 800 hour plus cha...,
Tesline,
23-Mar-12 04:29 AM, #106
Are you kidding?,
Onewingedangel,
27-Mar-12 01:28 AM, #125
You're crazy. Ragers piss lightning bolts and #### thu...,
TMNS,
22-Mar-12 04:27 PM, #99
Oh come on,
AXera,
22-Mar-12 10:21 PM, #103
That's just it.,
lasentia,
23-Mar-12 07:29 AM, #107
RE: That's just it.,
Daevryn,
23-Mar-12 07:47 AM, #108
I regret my tone,
AXera,
26-Mar-12 09:03 AM, #116
Maybe I missed it?,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:27 PM, #69
So your judging a character of over 800 hours,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 01:26 PM, #86
Why o Why does everyone think Vanguard is useless again...,
TMNS,
22-Mar-12 04:24 PM, #98
Vanguard,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 04:33 PM, #100
RE: Vanguard,
Rayihn,
22-Mar-12 04:51 PM, #101
Out of curiosity, why do you think the bond is a nexus ...,
Bubthegreat,
25-Mar-12 05:15 PM, #111
RE: Out of curiosity, why do you think the bond is a ne...,
Graatch,
25-Mar-12 06:01 PM, #112
Marans cry is the same thing. Promotes group Pk.,
Gaplemo,
25-Mar-12 10:11 PM, #113
Resist is a tough power to compete it.,
DurNominator,
25-Mar-12 10:40 PM, #114
I tend to fight them 1v1 way too often,
AXera,
26-Mar-12 08:49 AM, #115
What about non RBW types?,
Kalageadon,
26-Mar-12 11:31 AM, #117
RE: What about non RBW types?,
Daevryn,
26-Mar-12 11:34 AM, #118
How does that work?,
Valkenar,
26-Mar-12 12:47 PM, #119
RE: How does that work?,
Daevryn,
26-Mar-12 01:00 PM, #122
RE: How does that work?,
Valkenar,
26-Mar-12 06:24 PM, #124
Amen kemosabe. A-freaking-Men. NT,
TMNS,
26-Mar-12 12:57 PM, #121
2 on 1 is NOT a gang dude.,
TMNS,
26-Mar-12 12:55 PM, #120
One question these pbf stats do raise is:,
Malakhi,
22-Mar-12 10:17 AM, #54
Absolutely this.,
Artificial,
22-Mar-12 11:27 AM, #55
RE: Absolutely this.,
sezdral,
22-Mar-12 11:47 AM, #57
I think a lot of Battle ragers should be true neutral t...,
lasentia,
22-Mar-12 12:19 PM, #66
I ran the numbers on all rager PBF:s,
Marcus_,
22-Mar-12 01:17 PM, #84
Yay! In the 9% :) NT,
TMNS,
22-Mar-12 04:22 PM, #97
I agree too,
sezdral,
22-Mar-12 01:59 PM, #90
Battle tends towards Chaotic Neutral mostly in concept.,
TMNS,
22-Mar-12 04:21 PM, #96
An Apology,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 11:53 AM, #58
?,
Bolzhor (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:24 PM, #67
Gang-o-meters are just bad.,
lasentia,
22-Mar-12 01:06 PM #80
You like numbers? Some solo PK's.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 01:10 PM, #83
So you like numbers Part 2.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 01:19 PM, #85
Your data means nothing, this is CarrionFields - You fo...,
Bertmaern (Anonymous),
28-Mar-12 08:45 AM, #126
RE: An Apology,
DurNominator,
22-Mar-12 02:04 PM, #91
I was voicing more on characters, not players.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 03:39 PM, #94
Stop looking only at the numbers you want too.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 03:42 PM, #95
Second Round of Goodbyes!,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 10:52 AM, #35
RE: Second Round of Goodbyes!,
Illanthos,
20-Mar-12 01:47 PM, #38
Thanks, man.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:58 PM, #81
No goodbyes for Fjodir?! :(,
Amberion,
20-Mar-12 02:04 PM, #39
I can't believe I forgot Fjodir,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:54 PM, #78
RE: Second Round of Goodbyes!,
Onya (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 04:03 PM, #40
Roleplay and the first set of Goodbyes!,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 06:50 PM, #18
Gaunting shapeshifters rarely did much,
Artificial,
19-Mar-12 06:59 PM, #16
RE: Roleplay and the first set of Goodbyes!,
Rayihn,
19-Mar-12 07:15 PM, #17
Our interactions became amazing.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:51 PM, #77
Oops,
Rayihn,
22-Mar-12 01:05 PM, #82
No worries, I laughed when it happened.,
Salyeris (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 05:33 PM, #102
RE: Roleplay and the first set of Goodbyes!,
Jastyna (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 07:30 PM, #20
Lullaby always worked on me.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:45 PM, #76
Said some stuff in my goodbye but I'll hash some more o...,
Atracius (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 07:54 PM, #21
Another of my favourite enemies.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:43 PM, #74
Love/Hate are the words of the day.,
Mauz (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 08:48 PM, #22
I offered positions in Nexus,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:39 PM, #73
Fantastic Char,
Puhguly,
19-Mar-12 08:59 PM, #23
You did that whole post without a smirk.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:35 PM, #72
Time to fess up!,
AXera,
19-Mar-12 09:09 PM, #24
I also voted for Gdot.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:33 PM, #71
Wow what a sad day.,
Ghafler (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 12:24 AM, #26
Haha,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:30 PM, #70
Bye,
Omaga (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 01:01 AM, #27
You have no idea how much I liked Omaga.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:26 PM, #68
Thanks,
Omaga (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 02:29 PM, #93
WHAT about your friendly neighbourhood gorilla,
Jhappil (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 04:33 AM, #29
What can I say?,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:19 PM, #65
assassinating Solec,
Iepnier (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 07:09 AM, #30
I didn't complain about you.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:15 PM, #64
RE: Roleplay and the first set of Goodbyes!,
Daevryn,
20-Mar-12 07:41 AM, #31
Might I offer a request then?,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 10:08 AM, #33
Similar thought I've had,
Dallevian,
20-Mar-12 10:48 AM, #34
Nicely done.,
Allysia (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 07:43 AM, #32
You were a monster,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:11 PM, #63
Very impressive character.,
Tesline,
20-Mar-12 11:56 AM, #36
RE: Roleplay and the first set of Goodbyes!,
Faru (Anonymous),
20-Mar-12 01:09 PM, #37
Only 1 disappointment in my eyes.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:09 PM, #62
Solec's Mechanics and Thoughts.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 04:55 PM, #14
RE: Manticore,
Zulghinlour,
19-Mar-12 06:21 PM, #15
Great character!,
Yindathos (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 04:54 PM, #13
Though I prefer serious characters,,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:05 PM, #61
Truly great character!,
Whiysdan,
19-Mar-12 04:10 PM, #11
Truthfully,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 12:03 PM, #60
Well Done!,
Swabaum (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 03:51 PM, #10
What a fine job.,
Dallevian,
19-Mar-12 02:30 PM, #6
Awesome char. Was glad they gave you manticore.,
TMNS,
19-Mar-12 01:16 PM, #4
Mmmm...manticore (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
19-Mar-12 02:27 PM, #5
I will not stop until I get the Trogdor quest form.,
TMNS,
19-Mar-12 03:27 PM, #7
Join the club,
Abernyte,
20-Mar-12 04:28 AM, #28
RE: Join the club,
Catastrophic,
25-Mar-12 08:43 AM, #110
How do you get those kind of forms? n/t,
Formguy (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 03:42 PM, #8
RE: How do you get those kind of forms? n/t,
Rayihn,
19-Mar-12 03:46 PM, #9
cough. nt,
Artificial,
19-Mar-12 04:29 PM, #12
RE: cough. nt,
Rayihn,
19-Mar-12 07:19 PM, #19
Wondered,
Tairneach (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 12:54 PM, #3
Great character.,
Twist,
19-Mar-12 12:38 PM, #2
Interesting Statistic.,
Kalageadon,
19-Mar-12 09:12 PM, #25
RE: (CON LOSS) [NEXUS] Solec of WillowWood, the Embodim...,
Belgha (Anonymous),
19-Mar-12 12:24 PM, #1
You had some serious damage output.,
Solec of WillowWood (Anonymous),
22-Mar-12 11:56 AM, #59
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