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Nivek1Fri 18-Jun-04 09:23 AM
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#4850, "Ranking, not practicing."


          

My beef is more with ranking than skill improvements.

I agree that, if heroing is made easy, we are going to have
the mid-20s duergar axe spec syndrome get bumped up to level
51.  Not something I would care for.  On the other hand, I do
think it takes too long to hero.  I’ve not had one in less
than 350 hours due to a number of factors.  Inability to find
a group, finding a group and then having it dissolve
immediately, aversion to repetitive mob-killing, etc.  My
current character is at level 30 in 70 hours and I’m
actually impressed that I’ve gone up so fast – this is
breakneck speed for me.  At this rate, I may hit hero in 150
hours (holy ####, no sarcasm that would be great, and at 8
hours per week we’re looking at the end of August.

All told, that’s about 4 months to hero playing one
character, which leads to my issue with the whole mess:

There are all these awesome skills and spells that the high
level characters get, and deservedly so.  My example will be
the warrior class.  When legacies came in, that was an awesome
addition to the game.  Out of the 26 cool new skills for the
warrior class, I’ve had three.  The IMMs put all this great
stuff in the game that I would love to try out, but my
schedule as a casual player prohibits that.  Why?  Because it
takes me, on average, 4 months to get those skills.  That’s
too long, in my book.

Abilities I’ve always wanted to try, but have not had the
time include at least four of the legacies (being reasonable
here), frightful fiend, shadow drag, PWK, a major shifter
form, among others.  That list right there represents a good 2
years of playing time IF I stuck with each character to
hero-range.  During which time, you guys will implement even
more cool abilities that will be queued up in a never-ending
line.

No these abilities shouldn’t be gained for nothing – doing
so vastly decreases their value.  As others have mentioned,
though, the casual player cannot hope to try even a fraction
of what CF has to offer at the higher levels due to the fact
that they can’t reach them in a reasonable amount of time.

Great job in making such a diverse game, but I’d really like
to try out a little bit more of it.

  

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HOT TopicPracticing. [View all] , zod, Thu 17-Jun-04 04:42 PM
Reply RE: Practicing., Hutto, 22-Jun-04 03:49 PM, #87
Reply RE: Practicing., Mekantos, 22-Jun-04 04:54 PM, #88
Reply RE: Practicing., Nhiala, 22-Jun-04 06:35 PM, #89
Reply if you did this you'd also want..., incognito, 23-Jun-04 05:47 AM, #96
Reply RE: if you did this you'd also want..., Hutto, 23-Jun-04 11:24 AM, #103
Reply Level based, RealShea, 23-Jun-04 09:13 AM, #100
Reply RE: Practicing., Hutto, 23-Jun-04 11:11 AM, #102
Reply I throw in my vote for "Descriptors" of skill level. N..., Straklaw, 22-Jun-04 09:22 PM, #90
     Reply RE: I throw in my vote for, Jhyrbian, 22-Jun-04 11:27 PM, #92
          Reply Improvement messages, Clumber, 23-Jun-04 06:30 AM, #97
Reply Sounds like the topic of a new survey:, RealShea, 23-Jun-04 09:41 AM, #101
Reply Ranking, not practicing., Nivek1, 18-Jun-04 09:23 AM #64
Reply Agreed. n/t, Little Timmy (Anonymous), 18-Jun-04 05:51 PM, #69
Reply The real issue, Delanan, 17-Jun-04 06:20 PM, #39
Reply Oh and one more question inside:), zod, 17-Jun-04 04:55 PM, #25
Reply RE: Oh and one more question inside:), Zulghinlour, 17-Jun-04 04:59 PM, #27
     Reply Actually..., MIKEN, 17-Jun-04 05:52 PM, #34
     Reply RE: Oh and one more question inside:), RealShea, 18-Jun-04 08:56 AM, #63
          Reply RE: Oh and one more question inside:), Jhyrbian, 20-Jun-04 08:40 AM, #79
Reply Another subject on the same idea.., jaynus, 17-Jun-04 03:43 PM, #14
Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., Phaelim (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 04:06 PM, #20
Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., jaynus, 17-Jun-04 07:19 PM, #42
     Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., Phaelim (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 07:36 PM, #45
     Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., jaynus, 17-Jun-04 08:04 PM, #47
     Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 10:01 PM, #49
     Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., vargal, 17-Jun-04 08:20 PM, #48
          Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., Phaelim (Anonymous), 18-Jun-04 02:00 AM, #52
               Reply Isildur's idea -- kobolds!, Little Timmy (Anonymous), 21-Jun-04 08:52 PM, #82
     Reply ranking and rp can co-exist, incognito, 18-Jun-04 07:51 AM, #55
          Reply RE: ranking and rp can co-exist, Vorgish, 23-Jun-04 06:57 PM, #105
Reply A reply!, nepenthe, 18-Jun-04 07:31 AM, #54
     Reply RE: A reply!, Valkenar, 18-Jun-04 11:30 AM, #66
     Reply RE: A reply!, Nhiala, 18-Jun-04 12:56 PM, #67
          Reply RE: XP for PK., Valguarnera, 18-Jun-04 01:26 PM, #68
     Reply Hero's all..., Cassman, 19-Jun-04 10:12 AM, #72
     Reply RE: Hero's all..., Valguarnera, 19-Jun-04 12:10 PM, #74
     Reply RE: A reply!, Bring_The_Pain, 19-Jun-04 05:12 PM, #75
          Reply I asked myself if this was serious, incognito, 19-Jun-04 06:04 PM, #76
               Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Bring_The_Pain, 19-Jun-04 11:15 PM, #77
                    Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Nhiala, 20-Jun-04 12:47 AM, #78
                         Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Bring_The_Pain, 21-Jun-04 06:32 PM, #80
                              Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Nhiala, 21-Jun-04 09:33 PM, #84
                              Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Bring_The_Pain, 22-Jun-04 11:36 PM, #93
                                   Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Nhiala, 23-Jun-04 09:13 AM, #99
                                        Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Bring_The_Pain, 23-Jun-04 11:53 PM, #106
                              Reply RE: Distention, Balrahd, 22-Jun-04 01:17 AM, #85
                                   Reply RE: Distention, Bring_The_Pain, 22-Jun-04 11:04 PM, #91
                                   Reply RE: Distention, Bring_The_Pain, 22-Jun-04 11:39 PM, #94
                                        Reply RE: Ahh, Balrahd, 23-Jun-04 03:39 AM, #95
                                             Reply RE: Ahh, Bring_The_Pain, 23-Jun-04 07:54 AM, #98
Reply RE: Practicing., nepenthe, 17-Jun-04 12:47 AM, #1
     Reply RE: Practicing., zod, 17-Jun-04 01:06 AM, #2
          Reply RE: Practicing., Valguarnera, 17-Jun-04 08:37 AM, #3
          Reply RE: Practicing., MIKEN, 17-Jun-04 02:20 PM, #4
          Reply RE: Practicing., Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 03:26 PM, #9
          Reply RE: Practicing., Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 03:56 PM, #17
          Reply RE: Practicing., MIKEN, 17-Jun-04 04:26 PM, #21
               Reply RE: Practicing., Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 04:58 PM, #26
          Reply RE: Practicing., Valguarnera, 17-Jun-04 04:03 PM, #18
               Reply RE: Practicing., Nightgaunt_, 17-Jun-04 05:39 PM, #30
          Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 02:26 PM, #5
               Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Valguarnera, 17-Jun-04 02:58 PM, #6
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), zod, 17-Jun-04 03:04 PM, #7
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Evil Genius (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 03:22 PM, #8
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), zod, 17-Jun-04 03:32 PM, #11
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 03:30 PM, #10
                    Reply Hehe, zod, 17-Jun-04 03:36 PM, #13
                    Reply Playerbase size, and content., Valguarnera, 17-Jun-04 04:23 PM, #22
                    Reply RE: Playerbase size, and content., Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 06:15 PM, #38
                         Reply RE: Playerbase size, and content., Valguarnera, 18-Jun-04 07:59 AM, #56
                              Reply RE: Playerbase size, and content., Little Timmy (Anonymous), 18-Jun-04 05:56 PM, #70
                                   Reply RE: Playerbase size, and content., Nhiala, 19-Jun-04 12:48 AM, #71
                                        Reply I can agree to this., Cerunnir, 19-Jun-04 11:34 AM, #73
                                        Reply RE: Playerbase size, and content., Little Timmy (Anonymous), 21-Jun-04 08:48 PM, #81
                                        Reply See my ne thread for my answers. nt, Nivek1, 23-Jun-04 11:29 AM, #104
                    Reply RE: Hehe, nebel, 17-Jun-04 07:27 PM, #43
                         Reply RE: Hehe, zod, 17-Jun-04 07:33 PM, #44
                              Reply RE: Hehe, nebel, 17-Jun-04 07:40 PM, #46
                              Reply RE: Hehe, Valguarnera, 18-Jun-04 08:05 AM, #61
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 03:53 PM, #16
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 05:03 PM, #28
                         Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), zod, 17-Jun-04 06:09 PM, #36
                    Reply Its not black and white., MIKEN, 17-Jun-04 04:26 PM, #23
                         Reply are you kidding?, incognito, 18-Jun-04 08:05 AM, #59
                    Reply Yeah..., Phaelim (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 03:35 PM, #12
                    Reply RE: Yeah..., Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 04:05 PM, #19
                         Reply Leave the sarcasm at the door, Phaelim (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 04:19 PM, #24
                              Reply RE: Leave the sarcasm at the door, Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 05:42 PM, #31
                                   Reply RE: Leave the sarcasm at the door, Phaelim (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 06:37 PM, #40
                                        Reply Leave the sarcasm at the door - how about both?, Nivek1, 18-Jun-04 08:08 AM, #62
                                        Reply Okay, so you like ranking. NOBODY ELSE LIKES RANKING OK..., Little Timmy (Anonymous), 21-Jun-04 08:59 PM, #83
                    Reply to be quite frank, incognito, 18-Jun-04 08:02 AM, #57
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Lochzan, 17-Jun-04 03:45 PM, #15
                         Reply My pledge to you., Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 05:15 PM, #29
                              Reply RE: My pledge to you., MIKEN, 17-Jun-04 05:50 PM, #33
                              Reply RE: My pledge to you., Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 06:13 PM, #37
                                   Reply RE: My pledge to you., Nivek1, 18-Jun-04 08:05 AM, #60
                                        Reply RE: My pledge to you., Nhiala, 18-Jun-04 10:20 AM, #65
                              Reply this is more in re: phaelim, Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 05:54 PM, #35
                              Reply RE: this is more in re: phaelim, Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 06:41 PM, #41
                              Reply RE: My pledge to you., Lochzan, 18-Jun-04 12:14 AM, #50
                                   Reply RE: My pledge to you., Lochzan, 18-Jun-04 12:16 AM, #51
                                   Reply RE: My pledge to you., Nhiala, 18-Jun-04 03:26 AM, #53
                                   Reply As a spam practicer....., Laearrist, 22-Jun-04 02:24 PM, #86
                                   Reply RE: My pledge to you., Valguarnera, 18-Jun-04 08:04 AM, #58
          Reply I can't say i fully agree with Nepenthe, however.., Jhyrbian, 17-Jun-04 05:47 PM, #32
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