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Phaelim (inactive user)Thu 17-Jun-04 07:36 PM
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#4823, "RE: Another subject on the same idea.."


          

I haven't EVER hero'd a character at 80 hours. This is not to say it can't be done, but one without OOC connections spends amples amount of time trying to find a group.. then ranking.. then keeping the group etc.

You don't need OOC connections. Can't find a group? Go do some solo ranking on whatever mobs you can handle. You get xp and practice, and you can continue to look while you do it.

I'm not asking for 40 hour ranking.. I'm asking for maybe 1/3'd of
what it is.


If I'm reading this right, you are asking for 40 hour ranking. If average time to hero is 150 hours give or take, 1/3 would be 50 hours. Take into account power ranking and you have heroes in about 30 hours or so.

So if somethign is worth 500 exp, make it worth 800. Something small like that, may very well change this game for the better.

I wouldn't call that a small change really. Why not just go rank on those mobs that give you 800 xp? I know, those mobs are hard, don't have the right group, etc. Well, go for mobs worth less that die faster. Plenty of places to rank, with more possibilities coming on a fairly regular basis, something will work for you.

What would make this easier for me to propose would be for the immortal's to post why ranking is the way it is now.. which I'll be able to respond to and hopefully we can get something going =P

I already put a big reason in the last post. Having characters hero in a low amount of hours results in less long term characters since there isn't an investment of time in them. What about practicing too? You rank in a third of the time, you'll have only a third of the improvements. Then people will scream even louder that it's too much work to practice. I personally think the new commerce xp, xp gains from quests, xp boosts from imms, etc. is the way to go. Maybe it'll eventually end up where characters can get a decent percentage of their xp from these, but I don't see it ever dropping the average time below 100 hours.

  

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HOT TopicPracticing. [View all] , zod, Thu 17-Jun-04 04:42 PM
Reply RE: Practicing., Hutto, 22-Jun-04 03:49 PM, #87
Reply RE: Practicing., Mekantos, 22-Jun-04 04:54 PM, #88
Reply RE: Practicing., Nhiala, 22-Jun-04 06:35 PM, #89
Reply if you did this you'd also want..., incognito, 23-Jun-04 05:47 AM, #96
Reply RE: if you did this you'd also want..., Hutto, 23-Jun-04 11:24 AM, #103
Reply Level based, RealShea, 23-Jun-04 09:13 AM, #100
Reply RE: Practicing., Hutto, 23-Jun-04 11:11 AM, #102
Reply I throw in my vote for "Descriptors" of skill level. N..., Straklaw, 22-Jun-04 09:22 PM, #90
     Reply RE: I throw in my vote for, Jhyrbian, 22-Jun-04 11:27 PM, #92
          Reply Improvement messages, Clumber, 23-Jun-04 06:30 AM, #97
Reply Sounds like the topic of a new survey:, RealShea, 23-Jun-04 09:41 AM, #101
Reply Ranking, not practicing., Nivek1, 18-Jun-04 09:23 AM, #64
Reply Agreed. n/t, Little Timmy (Anonymous), 18-Jun-04 05:51 PM, #69
Reply The real issue, Delanan, 17-Jun-04 06:20 PM, #39
Reply Oh and one more question inside:), zod, 17-Jun-04 04:55 PM, #25
Reply RE: Oh and one more question inside:), Zulghinlour, 17-Jun-04 04:59 PM, #27
     Reply Actually..., MIKEN, 17-Jun-04 05:52 PM, #34
     Reply RE: Oh and one more question inside:), RealShea, 18-Jun-04 08:56 AM, #63
          Reply RE: Oh and one more question inside:), Jhyrbian, 20-Jun-04 08:40 AM, #79
Reply Another subject on the same idea.., jaynus, 17-Jun-04 03:43 PM, #14
Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., Phaelim (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 04:06 PM, #20
Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., jaynus, 17-Jun-04 07:19 PM, #42
     Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., Phaelim (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 07:36 PM #45
     Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., jaynus, 17-Jun-04 08:04 PM, #47
     Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 10:01 PM, #49
     Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., vargal, 17-Jun-04 08:20 PM, #48
          Reply RE: Another subject on the same idea.., Phaelim (Anonymous), 18-Jun-04 02:00 AM, #52
               Reply Isildur's idea -- kobolds!, Little Timmy (Anonymous), 21-Jun-04 08:52 PM, #82
     Reply ranking and rp can co-exist, incognito, 18-Jun-04 07:51 AM, #55
          Reply RE: ranking and rp can co-exist, Vorgish, 23-Jun-04 06:57 PM, #105
Reply A reply!, nepenthe, 18-Jun-04 07:31 AM, #54
     Reply RE: A reply!, Valkenar, 18-Jun-04 11:30 AM, #66
     Reply RE: A reply!, Nhiala, 18-Jun-04 12:56 PM, #67
          Reply RE: XP for PK., Valguarnera, 18-Jun-04 01:26 PM, #68
     Reply Hero's all..., Cassman, 19-Jun-04 10:12 AM, #72
     Reply RE: Hero's all..., Valguarnera, 19-Jun-04 12:10 PM, #74
     Reply RE: A reply!, Bring_The_Pain, 19-Jun-04 05:12 PM, #75
          Reply I asked myself if this was serious, incognito, 19-Jun-04 06:04 PM, #76
               Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Bring_The_Pain, 19-Jun-04 11:15 PM, #77
                    Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Nhiala, 20-Jun-04 12:47 AM, #78
                         Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Bring_The_Pain, 21-Jun-04 06:32 PM, #80
                              Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Nhiala, 21-Jun-04 09:33 PM, #84
                              Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Bring_The_Pain, 22-Jun-04 11:36 PM, #93
                                   Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Nhiala, 23-Jun-04 09:13 AM, #99
                                        Reply RE: I asked myself if this was serious, Bring_The_Pain, 23-Jun-04 11:53 PM, #106
                              Reply RE: Distention, Balrahd, 22-Jun-04 01:17 AM, #85
                                   Reply RE: Distention, Bring_The_Pain, 22-Jun-04 11:04 PM, #91
                                   Reply RE: Distention, Bring_The_Pain, 22-Jun-04 11:39 PM, #94
                                        Reply RE: Ahh, Balrahd, 23-Jun-04 03:39 AM, #95
                                             Reply RE: Ahh, Bring_The_Pain, 23-Jun-04 07:54 AM, #98
Reply RE: Practicing., nepenthe, 17-Jun-04 12:47 AM, #1
     Reply RE: Practicing., zod, 17-Jun-04 01:06 AM, #2
          Reply RE: Practicing., Valguarnera, 17-Jun-04 08:37 AM, #3
          Reply RE: Practicing., MIKEN, 17-Jun-04 02:20 PM, #4
          Reply RE: Practicing., Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 03:26 PM, #9
          Reply RE: Practicing., Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 03:56 PM, #17
          Reply RE: Practicing., MIKEN, 17-Jun-04 04:26 PM, #21
               Reply RE: Practicing., Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 04:58 PM, #26
          Reply RE: Practicing., Valguarnera, 17-Jun-04 04:03 PM, #18
               Reply RE: Practicing., Nightgaunt_, 17-Jun-04 05:39 PM, #30
          Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 02:26 PM, #5
               Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Valguarnera, 17-Jun-04 02:58 PM, #6
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), zod, 17-Jun-04 03:04 PM, #7
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Evil Genius (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 03:22 PM, #8
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), zod, 17-Jun-04 03:32 PM, #11
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 03:30 PM, #10
                    Reply Hehe, zod, 17-Jun-04 03:36 PM, #13
                    Reply Playerbase size, and content., Valguarnera, 17-Jun-04 04:23 PM, #22
                    Reply RE: Playerbase size, and content., Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 06:15 PM, #38
                         Reply RE: Playerbase size, and content., Valguarnera, 18-Jun-04 07:59 AM, #56
                              Reply RE: Playerbase size, and content., Little Timmy (Anonymous), 18-Jun-04 05:56 PM, #70
                                   Reply RE: Playerbase size, and content., Nhiala, 19-Jun-04 12:48 AM, #71
                                        Reply I can agree to this., Cerunnir, 19-Jun-04 11:34 AM, #73
                                        Reply RE: Playerbase size, and content., Little Timmy (Anonymous), 21-Jun-04 08:48 PM, #81
                                        Reply See my ne thread for my answers. nt, Nivek1, 23-Jun-04 11:29 AM, #104
                    Reply RE: Hehe, nebel, 17-Jun-04 07:27 PM, #43
                         Reply RE: Hehe, zod, 17-Jun-04 07:33 PM, #44
                              Reply RE: Hehe, nebel, 17-Jun-04 07:40 PM, #46
                              Reply RE: Hehe, Valguarnera, 18-Jun-04 08:05 AM, #61
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 03:53 PM, #16
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 05:03 PM, #28
                         Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), zod, 17-Jun-04 06:09 PM, #36
                    Reply Its not black and white., MIKEN, 17-Jun-04 04:26 PM, #23
                         Reply are you kidding?, incognito, 18-Jun-04 08:05 AM, #59
                    Reply Yeah..., Phaelim (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 03:35 PM, #12
                    Reply RE: Yeah..., Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 04:05 PM, #19
                         Reply Leave the sarcasm at the door, Phaelim (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 04:19 PM, #24
                              Reply RE: Leave the sarcasm at the door, Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 05:42 PM, #31
                                   Reply RE: Leave the sarcasm at the door, Phaelim (Anonymous), 17-Jun-04 06:37 PM, #40
                                        Reply Leave the sarcasm at the door - how about both?, Nivek1, 18-Jun-04 08:08 AM, #62
                                        Reply Okay, so you like ranking. NOBODY ELSE LIKES RANKING OK..., Little Timmy (Anonymous), 21-Jun-04 08:59 PM, #83
                    Reply to be quite frank, incognito, 18-Jun-04 08:02 AM, #57
                    Reply RE: Practicing (Ranking.), Lochzan, 17-Jun-04 03:45 PM, #15
                         Reply My pledge to you., Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 05:15 PM, #29
                              Reply RE: My pledge to you., MIKEN, 17-Jun-04 05:50 PM, #33
                              Reply RE: My pledge to you., Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 06:13 PM, #37
                                   Reply RE: My pledge to you., Nivek1, 18-Jun-04 08:05 AM, #60
                                        Reply RE: My pledge to you., Nhiala, 18-Jun-04 10:20 AM, #65
                              Reply this is more in re: phaelim, Chalupah, 17-Jun-04 05:54 PM, #35
                              Reply RE: this is more in re: phaelim, Nhiala, 17-Jun-04 06:41 PM, #41
                              Reply RE: My pledge to you., Lochzan, 18-Jun-04 12:14 AM, #50
                                   Reply RE: My pledge to you., Lochzan, 18-Jun-04 12:16 AM, #51
                                   Reply RE: My pledge to you., Nhiala, 18-Jun-04 03:26 AM, #53
                                   Reply As a spam practicer....., Laearrist, 22-Jun-04 02:24 PM, #86
                                   Reply RE: My pledge to you., Valguarnera, 18-Jun-04 08:04 AM, #58
          Reply I can't say i fully agree with Nepenthe, however.., Jhyrbian, 17-Jun-04 05:47 PM, #32
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