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Invoker (Anonymous)Sat 21-May-11 07:34 PM
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#38094, "Poisons and Traps"


          

Several balance issues:

The acid trap that blinds can deal no damage due to oozeshield, but still blind you despite the oozeshield. That seems like a bug.

Hero warriors boneshatter for -7/-7 on an invoker with Demi-Elemental Transcendence. Traps boneshatter for -11/-11. The impales of traps also seem to ignore mitigating effects such as Demi-Ele Transcendence, or Calcify, whereas warrior impales work fine. This also seems like a bug.

Neurological poison can last 50 hours. During those 50 hours, you occasionally get blinded for short durations, you move in random directions half the time you try to walk (thus forcing you to stay at the same spot for 50 hours) and you fail spellcasting about 40% of the time.

Mind control poison lasts 20 hours or so. During those 20 hours, you get 'forget' effect frequently for short durations, and fail spellcasting often. The spellcasting failure chance of neuro and MC poison stack, thus making it nearly futile to cast spells under the effects of both poisons.

Those effects are incredibly powerful - overpowered in the nuisance they cause to players (no-one likes wasting 30 minutes in real life because they got hit by neurological poison). But, they are completely nullified by a certain creature's blood.

This doesn't seem balanced either - to have an entire skill-set completely made useless by one effect. (On that note, the jade brooch of abjuration has a similar effect of rendering specific classes useless. Also Grinning Devil Shield for APs.)

Is it possible to reach a middle ground? We could have the blood not grant full immunity to poisoner poisons, just regular poisonous bite attacks and regular poisons. Perhaps it can reduce the chance/effect of the poisons.

At the same time, something needs to be done about the ridiculously long poisons, and how debilitating they are. They're not very fun to play against.

Other players who agree on this, please post replies stating so. Thanks!

  

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HOT TopicPoisons and Traps [View all] , Invoker (Anonymous), Sat 21-May-11 07:34 PM
Reply Question, Marcus_, 25-May-11 11:57 AM, #68
Reply Agree. Thieves suck., waywicket, 23-May-11 04:07 PM, #58
Reply Are you serious? Warbanner is the new thief., wikataw, 21-Jun-11 03:11 PM, #89
Reply RE: Poisons and Traps, Daevryn, 22-May-11 08:31 PM, #37
Reply Basic question, Valkenar, 22-May-11 08:59 PM, #39
Reply RE: Basic question, Daevryn, 22-May-11 09:50 PM, #41
Reply Found the time to do this:, Daevryn, 09-Jun-11 06:39 PM, #70
     Reply RE: Found the time to do this:, N b M, 09-Jun-11 11:01 PM, #71
          Reply I think the durations will be MUCH too low now, Poisoner (Anonymous), 09-Jun-11 11:27 PM, #72
          Reply 10 vs 40 is to the advantage of the poisoner, laxman, 10-Jun-11 05:32 AM, #73
               Reply He said 5-10. 5 ticks is NOT long enough, Poisoner (Anonymous), 10-Jun-11 08:27 AM, #75
                    Reply RE: He said 5-10. 5 ticks is NOT long enough, Daevryn, 10-Jun-11 01:33 PM, #79
                         Reply Wasn't trying to freak out, Poisoner (Anonymous), 10-Jun-11 03:25 PM, #82
                              Reply Let me help you., Newbie (Anonymous), 11-Jun-11 09:39 AM, #85
          Reply RE: Found the time to do this:, Daevryn, 10-Jun-11 08:23 AM, #74
          Reply I agree with some of this, but not all, Poisoner (Anonymous), 10-Jun-11 08:36 AM, #76
          Reply I'd even go a little further..., Splntrd, 25-Jun-11 11:08 PM, #90
          Reply Yum. Programming puzzle + suggestion, BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 10-Jun-11 10:53 PM, #84
          Reply He found the time because he is done playing Flaaaayin, Tsunami, 10-Jun-11 01:06 PM, #77
               Reply This is how rumors get started!, Daevryn, 10-Jun-11 01:25 PM, #78
               Reply Lol. nt, Gothchicken (Anonymous), 11-Jun-11 09:41 AM, #86
               Reply Trying to avoid suspicion, but I found you out anyway., Tsunami, 12-Jun-11 12:36 PM, #88
               Reply If he played Flaaayin, he should be probably be divorce..., TMNS, 10-Jun-11 02:06 PM, #80
                    Reply RE: If he played Flaaayin, he should be probably be div..., Daevryn, 10-Jun-11 02:29 PM, #81
                         Reply Pfft, thats cause Zorszaul couldnt age die :P nt, Gaplemo, 10-Jun-11 03:26 PM, #83
                              Reply Zing nt, wikataw, 11-Jun-11 09:42 AM, #87
Reply RE: Basic question, Doof, 23-May-11 11:39 AM, #52
     Reply Plague would like to have a word with you..., Scrimbul, 23-May-11 01:55 PM, #54
     Reply How is that fun?, Valkenar, 23-May-11 02:32 PM, #55
          Reply Because that's part of the strategy to the game., Malakhi, 23-May-11 04:03 PM, #57
               Reply I agree, Valkenar, 23-May-11 07:06 PM, #59
Reply I'd rather fight Zorsaul, Ahtielhi, your Silenttower/He..., wikataw, 22-May-11 09:38 PM, #40
Reply lets create the ghost rule, laxman, 23-May-11 07:37 AM, #45
Reply RE: Poisons and Traps, HammerSong, 22-May-11 07:03 PM, #35
Reply Preps are annoying to get, Valkenar, 22-May-11 08:44 PM, #38
Reply I'm 30, who's fourty? nt, wikataw, 22-May-11 10:06 PM, #43
Reply Don't assume it's pussification, incognito, 23-May-11 02:54 AM, #44
Reply RE: Don't assume it's pussification, HammerSong, 23-May-11 08:13 PM, #61
     Reply So back to my point, incognito, 24-May-11 04:52 PM, #63
Reply I endorse the above post, BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 23-May-11 08:18 AM, #46
Reply Ravon had a skill that was changed , Oldril, 23-May-11 09:17 AM, #48
     Reply RE: Same with Yanacek, Anon opinion (Anonymous), 23-May-11 10:58 AM, #51
          Reply Just because anything was changed doesn't mean it was O..., BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 23-May-11 03:13 PM, #56
          Reply Yanacek abused the build, incognito, 24-May-11 04:53 PM, #64
Reply Overpowerdness, Anliltuel (Anonymous), 23-May-11 10:25 AM, #49
Reply Overpowered isn't the correct word., Anon opinion (Anonymous), 23-May-11 10:57 AM, #50
     Reply Me., Tesline, 24-May-11 10:01 PM, #67
Reply Oh my god, you played DAoC too and raged at its pussifi..., Batman (Anonymous), 23-May-11 08:02 PM, #60
Reply Mostly Agree (long post), Agree (Anonymous), 22-May-11 11:11 AM, #11
Reply Don't forget the Watcher!, Old guy (Anonymous), 22-May-11 10:11 AM, #8
Reply RE: Poisons and Traps, ORB, 22-May-11 09:06 AM, #7
Reply Agreed, The Heretic, 22-May-11 08:11 AM, #6
Reply Fear poison should stay., Scrimbul, 22-May-11 12:55 PM, #24
Reply The poisons are all just too easy to land, Murphy, 22-May-11 03:14 AM, #4
Reply Poisons aren't easy to land., Scrimbul, 22-May-11 12:34 PM, #20
Reply Sorry Scrimbul, incognito, 22-May-11 12:38 PM, #22
     Reply KO poison is reliable., Scrimbul, 22-May-11 12:48 PM, #23
          Reply You just don't know poisoners as well, incognito, 22-May-11 02:07 PM, #26
               Reply Wow. no,, Scrimbul, 22-May-11 03:43 PM, #29
                    Reply mind control can be done while KOd, this is often enoug..., Artificial, 22-May-11 04:44 PM, #30
                         Reply This is probably what I'm thinking of, incognito, 22-May-11 04:47 PM, #31
                         Reply yep, and it often reapplies the same tick it ends. nt, Artificial, 22-May-11 10:00 PM, #42
                         Reply Yeah. Neuro needs a tweak., Scrimbul, 22-May-11 04:51 PM, #33
Reply There's another poisoner thief right now, BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 23-May-11 08:31 AM, #47
     Reply My character has the tools to avoid dying to him, incognito, 24-May-11 04:57 PM, #65
          Reply I had the same experience. nt, Artificial, 24-May-11 05:01 PM, #66
          Reply To counter your argument, BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 26-May-11 01:21 PM, #69
Reply I have similiar issues, incognito, 22-May-11 12:50 AM, #2
Reply The grinning devil shield doesn't nullify ap's, Shapa, 22-May-11 10:55 AM, #9
     Reply Suit yourself, incognito, 22-May-11 11:10 AM, #10
          Reply Good reason being, incognito, 22-May-11 11:13 AM, #12
          Reply The plan how to fight it doesn't really matter., Shapa, 22-May-11 11:54 AM, #15
          Reply Who were these brave anti-paladins followers of the sph..., Shapa, 22-May-11 11:16 AM, #13
               Reply Hahaha, Valkenar, 22-May-11 11:56 AM, #16
               Reply Must be true., Shapa, 22-May-11 12:00 PM, #17
               Reply Huh, incognito, 22-May-11 12:32 PM, #19
               Reply Well we simply do not agree on some things then it seem..., Shapa, 22-May-11 01:54 PM, #25
                    Reply I don't count Ravon, incognito, 22-May-11 02:05 PM, #27
               Reply RE: Who were these brave anti-paladins followers of the..., Daevryn, 22-May-11 08:24 PM, #36
               Reply If that's true than Tony's an idiot., TMNS, 23-May-11 01:07 PM, #53
                    Reply RE: If that's true than Tony's an idiot., Daevryn, 23-May-11 10:06 PM, #62
Reply I tend to agree, Valkenar, 21-May-11 11:53 PM, #1
     Reply RE: I tend to agree, incognito, 22-May-11 12:55 AM, #3
          Reply Also..., sezdral, 22-May-11 05:11 AM, #5
          Reply Lol. Yeah, dust is hard to fathom., lasentia, 22-May-11 12:07 PM, #18
          Reply Situational, Valkenar, 22-May-11 11:19 AM, #14
               Reply I -think- you can tell when the forget kicks in, incognito, 22-May-11 12:36 PM, #21
                    Reply I dunno, Valkenar, 22-May-11 02:06 PM, #28
                         Reply Maybe I've been unlucky, incognito, 22-May-11 04:48 PM, #32
                              Reply You can see it (Someone clutches his head as his eyes g..., Humbert, 22-May-11 05:49 PM, #34
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