Well, since we're still not up I'll debate the point further. First off, you didn't deny that thieves can't lag invokers. Secondly, maybe I'm wrong here, but only spear, mace, and axe have special lagging attacks (unless you count stun and choke which don't really lag more as stop the fighting, or legsweep which got changed so that flying negates it).

That leaves a lot of spec combinations that can't lag a prepped invoker, and proves my point that a lot of characters out there cannot lag a prepped invoker. So, if an invoker is coming for you, knows what skills/specs you have to draw upon and covers those specifically, you aren't going to be able to lag them.

Of course, until this thread I would have said axe/mace is the dumbest spec combo you could choose. Now I'm not so sure. I guess that why they call remarks like yours a nepenthism