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Tanadin (inactive user)Tue 10-Jun-03 02:42 PM
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#1213, "Please take off the rose colored glasses"


          


-Pre-hate Cabals-
This is quite a wide topic, but it can be the root of many problems. It seems like many cabals are setup to pre-hate other cabals. This creates an expectation on the individual in the cabal to be ruthless to the player at the other end of the funstick. For instance, many things happen that you wouldn't normally do to anyone else you didn't "hate". This creates only frustration and out of character hatred, and also forms visicious cycles. Numerous examples can be cited, from the minor full loot, which I think anyone can accept if it's warranted. This is a game, though, and sportsmanship is a part of the game. People shouldn't be running around, killing the same person every 30 minutes and sacrificing all his regear items. This has a definate affect on the fun stick and just jades people to the game. This isn't something that can be fixed easily, as it's more just a players choice. Although, things can be done to curb it and discourage it....again these are just ideas..

- Discipline the player from wanting to use get all corpse. Someone sometime ago, mentioned about adding lag to getting things from the corpse. I think this idea has merit. If you know you only have a few moments to get what you want from the corpse, you aren't going to worry about the crap gear. You will go straight for the juicy stuff. If you also knew you were going to get lagged, you wouldn't stick around to fully loot someones junk gear fear of someone catching you with your pants down. Honestly, if we could get some discussion surrounding this idea, I would be happy.


or...how the golden days of CF past aren't so golden, really more of a brass.
The cabals on CF has always been revolving around the dynamic hatred of the other. Masters/Battle, Entropy/Arbiters, Shadow/Knights all of these cabals had epic battles and hated each other. And you know what? There was just as bad pking and full looting back then, if not more. Throw in multiple deaths over and over, huge exp holes as they made you attack the healer while charmed, and then ####ty rp as they bragged how they just killed your ass with their lab partner.

Today you have a more cabals then back then, and the rp and philosophy of these cabals are a bit more fleshed out then the simple dynamic fights as old. You have cross fighting as rivalries flair up, and truces being made all the time. No matter what is done, you will have those out there who get their rocks off by being a total ass, this will never be changed.

  

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HOT TopicCrappy trends forming.. [View all] , Gabe, Tue 10-Jun-03 01:38 PM
Reply Cabal issues., josiah (Anonymous), 18-Jun-03 07:38 PM, #56
Reply RE: Cabal issues., Nivek1, 19-Jun-03 09:27 AM, #57
Reply RE: Cabal issues., nepenthe, 19-Jun-03 09:43 AM, #58
Reply Give neutrals Empire then?, josiah (Anonymous), 19-Jun-03 08:04 PM, #60
     Reply We've discussed this internally, and we're sticking wit..., Zulghinlour, 19-Jun-03 08:20 PM, #61
Reply RE: Cabal issues, Karithia, 19-Jun-03 12:30 PM, #59
Reply RE: Cabal issues, Brotmin, 22-Jun-03 08:13 PM, #63
     Reply Huh?, Quislet, 24-Jun-03 01:17 AM, #64
Reply RE: Cabal issues., Jarvino, 19-Jun-03 11:27 PM, #62
Reply My thoughts, Nivek1, 18-Jun-03 10:12 AM, #52
Reply As re: cabal raids, Theerkla, 18-Jun-03 01:00 PM, #53
Reply What i think., Jhyrbian, 13-Jun-03 10:11 PM, #47
Reply Something to keep in mind, (NOT Graatch), 18-Jun-03 02:23 PM, #54
     Reply Leika. Absolutely., Balrahd, 18-Jun-03 04:30 PM, #55
Reply The End All Be All Sub-Thread Re: LOOTING, Zepachu, 13-Jun-03 02:12 PM, #43
Reply And don't forget:, Quislet, 13-Jun-03 02:29 PM, #44
Reply It's a toss-up., Zepachu, 13-Jun-03 03:06 PM, #46
Reply RE: The End All Be All Sub-Thread Re: LOOTING, Valkenar, 13-Jun-03 02:54 PM, #45
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., nepenthe, 11-Jun-03 03:06 PM, #37
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Gabe, 11-Jun-03 03:58 PM, #38
Reply Comments and question for imms, Marcus_, 11-Jun-03 10:09 AM, #31
Reply RE: Comments and question for imms, Valguarnera, 11-Jun-03 01:22 PM, #35
     Reply yessir!, shokai, 11-Jun-03 01:53 PM, #36
Reply Source of the rose colored glasses?, idontplay, 11-Jun-03 04:28 AM, #29
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Doge, 10-Jun-03 06:31 PM, #21
Reply RE: group vs group combat rules, Scarabaeus, 10-Jun-03 10:38 PM, #28
Reply I like a lot of this stuff but, incognito, 10-Jun-03 06:06 PM, #18
Reply RE: I like a lot of this stuff but, Isildur, 10-Jun-03 06:24 PM, #20
Reply RE: Save, Valguarnera, 10-Jun-03 10:06 PM, #27
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Hutto, 10-Jun-03 05:34 PM, #17
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., marcalius, 10-Jun-03 03:44 PM, #14
Reply Simple solution for one of the problems., Anal_Retentive, 10-Jun-03 03:28 PM, #12
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Boldereth, 10-Jun-03 03:26 PM, #11
Reply beware...mild rant inside, shokai, 10-Jun-03 03:48 PM, #15
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Hutto, 10-Jun-03 04:48 PM, #16
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Isildur, 10-Jun-03 06:19 PM, #19
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Quislet, 10-Jun-03 06:45 PM, #22
          Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Gabe, 10-Jun-03 06:50 PM, #24
               Reply I wasn't paraphrasing., Quislet, 12-Jun-03 06:08 PM, #40
                    Reply RE: I wasn't paraphrasing., Gabe, 13-Jun-03 01:17 PM, #41
                         Reply RE: I wasn't paraphrasing., Quislet, 13-Jun-03 02:06 PM, #42
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Boldereth, 11-Jun-03 09:47 PM, #39
          Reply it's happening more than people think..., shokai, 14-Jun-03 12:20 AM, #48
               Reply Speaking specifically for full looting..., Gabe, 16-Jun-03 02:57 PM, #49
                    Reply RE: Speaking specifically for full looting..., Valguarnera, 16-Jun-03 07:46 PM, #50
                         Reply Idea in this context, Doge, 17-Jun-03 10:01 PM, #51
Reply selective memory...., shokai, 10-Jun-03 03:18 PM, #7
Reply RE: selective memory...., Gabe, 10-Jun-03 03:22 PM, #9
Reply Ah Smurfs..., Santa Claus, 10-Jun-03 03:28 PM, #13
Reply good times..., Larshalv, 11-Jun-03 08:10 AM, #30
Reply Problem is, Valkenar, 10-Jun-03 02:53 PM, #6
Reply Re: This is a game, Zulghinlour, 10-Jun-03 02:44 PM, #5
Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Gabe, 10-Jun-03 06:48 PM, #23
Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Zulghinlour, 10-Jun-03 07:10 PM, #25
     Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Gabe, 11-Jun-03 10:31 AM, #32
          Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Zulghinlour, 11-Jun-03 12:27 PM, #33
               Reply Thanks for the feedback, Z. (n/t), Gabe, 11-Jun-03 12:33 PM, #34
Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Zepachu, 10-Jun-03 08:11 PM, #26
Reply Please take off the rose colored glasses, Tanadin (Anonymous), 10-Jun-03 02:42 PM #4
Reply RE: Please take off the rose colored glasses, Gabe, 10-Jun-03 03:23 PM, #10
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Mazaufat, 10-Jun-03 02:41 PM, #3
Reply If you are going to respond.., Gabe, 10-Jun-03 03:19 PM, #8
Reply Some good thoughts, and.., Santa Claus, 10-Jun-03 02:33 PM, #2
Reply I believe the lag on loot was first proposed by me..., (NOT Pro), 10-Jun-03 02:06 PM, #1
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