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#88198, "Disagree"
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Looting in general
First of all, as an evil duergar AP I can loot whenever I want and whenever I want without any explanation. CF went dumb direction. I'm blamed for a few full loots in 670 hours instead of being praised for only a few full loots in 670 hours.
If somebody wants to argue about sacrificing things that I don't need or can't use I'm going to remind that people tend to sacrifice my unholy which "they don't need and can't use". They do it solely to make me weaker.
Sportmanship
Bartis was hiding from me for a while and in this instance I was actually searching for him. He died somewhere and I asked to locate his body, it was in the Ortagonal Tower. A hour or so later I still couldn't find him anywhere so I decided to and check that tower again. I've got my reasons to think that he is actually hiding from his pk range full of badass mages in a remote area. It maybe a bit fishy from the rager's RP, but I don't want to discuss it here. After all, if a villager thinks that he should not fight a mage that is too strong for him, he is free to go and hide.
Sportmanship also includes following the spirit of the game. If I found him and make his death almost unavoidable, I *deserved* charges. The way the fight went gave me a feeling that he decided to die to a wolf instead. I will repeat, I could be wrong in my estimation, but let us assume I was right. I had reasons to think that way. He wasn't moving for several ticks and fought a wolf all that time. Not only I didn't hear any mobs yells tracking him, I also couldn't summon him because he was in a fight and a wolf he was fighting was very hurt when I came in (and it's quite healthy, you can see how many obliterates it took to finish him off). If a victim really wants to escape from that place from a hunter, staying in one place isn't the best choice. As a warrior he could also retreat along the path or even use drive if he wants to stay in combat all the time. Whatever.
From a sportmanship point of view I consider his action as very cheap, he is trying to avoid consequnces of death (which were *deserved* by me) by using OOC means. Plus, villagers shouldn't really pick innocent animals as their primary targets when a badass mage is nearby (courage blabla). It almost fall into the same category as dropping link to avoid pk barring breaking rules.
Now, I could let it slide. Instead, I decided to give some sort of a hint: "If you go cheap against me, I will make you pay for it". And while I don't think it is the greatest moment in my life, I also don't consider it as "very very bad".
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(AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Gzurweeg the Fist of Darkness, Imp...
[View all] , Death_Angel, Mon 16-Nov-09 11:12 PM
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Gzurweeg the Fist of Darkness,...,
Ecekai (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:55 PM, #108
Not sure I agree,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
20-Nov-09 03:48 AM, #111
I am reminded strongly of a story...,
Artificial- (Guest),
20-Nov-09 09:30 AM, #115
please post some logs,
logslover (Guest),
20-Nov-09 11:58 AM, #120
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Gzurweeg the Fist of Darkness,...,
logs lover (Guest),
20-Nov-09 11:57 AM, #119
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Gzurweeg the Fist of Darkness,...,
someone (Guest),
22-Nov-09 08:16 PM, #173
Thank you.,
Grobbak,
19-Nov-09 11:08 AM, #57
Farewells,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
18-Nov-09 11:25 PM, #15
hahahahahaha,
Susu (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:38 AM, #19
Wait, you were the quiter and,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:58 AM, #22
Never happened.,
Susu (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:14 AM, #28
Hahaha,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:26 AM, #37
Maybe it was just against the particular 'automated' bu...,
Abernytee (Guest),
19-Nov-09 06:14 AM, #40
YEA! I had the BASH BUTTON OMG! n/t,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 06:57 AM, #41
As a hardcore levelsitting rager...,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:38 AM, #30
Part 2,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:05 AM, #34
I'm sure he is going to ignore these logs~,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:51 PM, #64
RE: hahahahahaha,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:50 PM, #63
RE: Farewells,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:48 AM, #20
But you are the well know quiter,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:55 AM, #21
I take great pride in the fact,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:00 AM, #23
Ranting? LOL,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:02 AM, #25
Well, I disagree:,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 01:12 AM, #27
RE: But you are the well know quiter,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 01:24 AM, #29
This is an odd remark,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:50 AM, #32
Um.,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:07 AM, #35
I agree it's better to stop here,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:10 AM, #36
RE: Um.,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 10:16 AM, #51
RE: This is an odd remark,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 07:17 AM, #43
Believe or not,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 11:26 AM, #60
RE: Believe or not,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 11:40 AM, #61
RE: Believe or not,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 12:10 PM, #62
RE: Believe or not,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:10 PM, #65
I used to remember a log...,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:20 PM, #103
There are also logs of him taking on groups of 10 or mo...,
Minyar1 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 10:18 AM, #167
Mind posting at least one of such logs? ~,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 06:26 PM, #171
He posted them as CAbdru at the time.,
Minyar1 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 08:42 PM, #175
RE: He posted them as CAbdru at the time.,
Ahti (Guest),
22-Nov-09 08:58 PM, #176
Nope...and I don't care to do the looking. I just remem...,
Minyar1 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 09:02 PM, #177
RE: Nope...and I don't care to do the looking. I just r...,
Ahti (Guest),
22-Nov-09 09:07 PM, #178
I remember commenting about logs where Cabdru only spam...,
Pro (Guest),
23-Nov-09 09:33 AM, #182
RE: Believe or not,
Daevryn,
22-Nov-09 11:01 AM, #169
Anyone who is not blind will,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 07:52 PM, #172
Well,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:27 PM, #69
RE: Well,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 01:46 PM, #72
Again,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:10 PM, #78
RE: Again,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 04:50 PM, #96
As that person I am confused.,
Cornholio (Guest),
20-Nov-09 05:14 AM, #112
Hey, don't throw rocks in glass houses....,
Arrna (Guest),
19-Nov-09 04:35 PM, #95
I can't confirm or deny that,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 05:06 PM, #98
Ooh, I didn't mean that it was a bad move NOT to try...,
Arrna (Guest),
19-Nov-09 06:10 PM, #101
Yeah, it was me and you on.,
Aeinrez (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:14 PM, #102
Huh, lol?,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:58 PM, #104
Whatever you think of Gzurweeg,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
21-Nov-09 07:28 AM, #153
Common english phrase,
Valkenar,
19-Nov-09 09:38 AM, #48
RE: This is an odd remark,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 10:19 AM, #52
It was Sashrimito,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:54 AM, #54
Did you miss the part where he is agree,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:02 AM, #33
RE: Did you miss the part where he is agree,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 07:19 AM, #44
You are "Bad in reading".,
Pro (Guest),
19-Nov-09 11:02 AM, #56
I read it the same way... hmm....,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:12 PM, #66
Hey....point out "EXACTLY" where he said he quit.,
Lornis (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:04 PM, #76
I'm not going,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:43 PM, #83
I didn't ask you to show us a log.,
Lornis (Guest),
19-Nov-09 09:01 PM, #105
I am shocked at all his Homophobia. Think he is protest...,
Gok Wan (Guest),
20-Nov-09 05:21 AM, #113
Nah, just an a-hole nt,
Valkenar,
20-Nov-09 11:09 AM, #117
RE: I didn't ask you to show us a log.,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
20-Nov-09 11:59 AM, #121
I reread your posts here.,
Malakhi (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:45 PM, #125
RE: I reread your posts here.,
Mmumma (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:49 PM, #126
RE: But you are the well know quiter,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:38 PM, #70
He's not saying I avoided him.,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:44 PM, #84
Man, that's getting old.,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:59 PM, #86
OK.,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 03:09 PM, #90
RE: Man, that's getting old.,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 03:45 PM, #91
I don't know your character,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
21-Nov-09 07:33 AM, #154
Please re-read Malakhi's post,
Twist,
21-Nov-09 09:51 AM, #158
He is likely overtired. Younger women can do that to a ...,
Abernytee (Guest),
21-Nov-09 03:55 PM, #161
RE: Farewells,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 10:13 AM, #50
Um,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:25 PM, #68
RE: Um,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 02:03 PM, #75
Surprise, surprise.,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:14 PM, #80
I'm not sure what for this log,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:40 PM, #82
Partially agree,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:46 PM, #71
RE: Partially agree,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:30 PM, #81
RE: Partially agree,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:46 PM, #85
RE: Partially agree,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 03:00 PM, #87
See? The warning of full sac,
Beront (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:27 AM, #109
Nothing like making an IC warning for full saccing on a...,
Minyar1 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 10:21 AM, #168
RE: Nothing like making an IC warning for full saccing ...,
Ahtieli,
22-Nov-09 08:27 PM, #174
Just fyi...,
Twist,
23-Nov-09 12:16 AM, #180
Oh,
Ahti (Guest),
23-Nov-09 05:21 AM, #181
She? Who is She? nt,
Minyar1 (Guest),
23-Nov-09 09:48 PM, #183
She would be Mergulla, the person quoted in Ahtieli's p...,
Adekar.guest (Guest),
24-Nov-09 04:44 AM, #185
Let me clear this up then...,
Minyar1 (Guest),
23-Nov-09 09:56 PM, #184
Correction,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 03:09 PM, #89
I have to admit I had alot of the same feelings as Mala...,
Bartis (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:57 PM, #74
I'd want to hear Gzurweeg's side of this,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 03:56 PM, #92
Bartis's story,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 04:27 PM, #94
Holds water,
Hyshrawr (Guest),
19-Nov-09 04:59 PM, #97
I have to agree with Nep here,
jatropha (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:37 PM, #107
Yeah...,
Daevryn,
20-Nov-09 11:16 AM, #118
Disagree,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:26 PM #122
RE: Disagree,
Daevryn,
20-Nov-09 12:30 PM, #123
RE: Disagree,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:36 PM, #124
RE: Disagree,
Daevryn,
20-Nov-09 02:35 PM, #131
I'm somewhat agree,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
21-Nov-09 06:29 AM, #152
This nuance is perhaps lost in translation....,
Daevryn,
21-Nov-09 07:57 AM, #155
RE: Disagree,
Frorania (Guest),
20-Nov-09 08:14 PM, #142
Sure,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
21-Nov-09 05:53 AM, #151
Then what you assume?,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:53 PM, #127
One reason I do stuff like that,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
20-Nov-09 02:03 PM, #129
Those are all great ideas. If only I had thought of the...,
Bartis (Guest),
20-Nov-09 03:57 PM, #134
It's Ironic,
Hyshrawr (Guest),
20-Nov-09 06:44 PM, #138
RE: It's Ironic,
Isildur,
20-Nov-09 07:16 PM, #139
RE: It's Ironic,
Hyshrawr (Guest),
20-Nov-09 07:27 PM, #140
RE: It's Ironic,
Daevryn,
20-Nov-09 08:35 PM, #143
Not interested to rehash it again, but...,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
20-Nov-09 10:11 PM, #145
To be fair,
Hyshrawr (Guest),
20-Nov-09 11:21 PM, #146
How can Nep keep players around when he flags ever othe...,
Krilcovss (Guest),
20-Nov-09 05:02 PM, #137
Heh.....I'm pretty sure he's calling this action douche...,
Batman (Anonymous),
21-Nov-09 08:20 AM, #156
Disagree again,
blackbird,
20-Nov-09 02:22 PM, #130
Don't kid yourself. I wasn't hiding from you.,
Bartis (Guest),
20-Nov-09 03:52 PM, #133
Heh nep.,
Krilcovs (Guest),
20-Nov-09 05:01 PM, #136
Well played,
Asthiss,
19-Nov-09 01:48 AM, #31
RE: Farewells,
Derogker (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:24 AM, #45
Just a question (which I'm certain you answered on my g...,
Arrna (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:29 AM, #46
Ooh one more thing...,
Arrna (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:36 AM, #47
Hehe,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 11:11 AM, #58
RE: Farewells,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 09:54 AM, #49
That's why we all hate you and all your characters. Heh...,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:57 PM, #73
RE: That's why we all hate you and all your characters....,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 02:10 PM, #79
Remarks,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 05:30 PM, #100
RE: Farewells,
Enlilt (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:27 AM, #53
Who you were? Hehe, not seriously.,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 04:02 PM, #93
RE: Farewells,
Lorn (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:54 AM, #55
It was at least six or seven of you in range for me. nt,
Lornis (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:19 PM, #67
You fooled me,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:06 PM, #77
RE: Farewells,
Kalisda (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:06 PM, #106
Meh!,
Frorania (Guest),
20-Nov-09 08:12 PM, #141
About raiding,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
20-Nov-09 09:29 PM, #144
RE: About raiding,
Frorania (Guest),
21-Nov-09 12:07 AM, #147
People, when you will learn...,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
21-Nov-09 12:59 AM, #148
RE: People, when you will learn...,
Frorania (Guest),
21-Nov-09 02:30 AM, #149
I'd have to defend Dwoggurd here,
Ghrummin (Guest),
21-Nov-09 02:43 AM, #150
Except that,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
21-Nov-09 08:34 AM, #157
RE: About raiding,
Isildur,
21-Nov-09 10:23 AM, #159
Re,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
21-Nov-09 02:42 PM, #160
You always were a dip####, but I can't blame you.,
Kyaltaru (Guest),
21-Nov-09 04:39 PM, #162
permagroup definition,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
21-Nov-09 07:22 PM, #163
FWIW, I (re)wrote that helpfile as it is currently word...,
Twist,
21-Nov-09 08:48 PM, #164
Well,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
22-Nov-09 11:50 AM, #170
Let me put it another way...,
Twist,
22-Nov-09 09:14 PM, #179
I feel so great,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 06:19 AM, #165
So many milestones in one short life, go you. ~,
Abernytee (Guest),
22-Nov-09 09:55 AM, #166
Really enjoying this role.,
RobDarken__ (Guest),
18-Nov-09 08:40 AM, #12
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Gzurweeg the Fist of Darkness,...,
Alimas (Guest),
18-Nov-09 07:47 AM, #11
You're welcome...,
Twist,
17-Nov-09 03:14 PM, #5
Dwoggurd is notoriously lazy in his goodbye posts ;) NT,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
17-Nov-09 05:32 PM, #6
Perhaps He is,
Beront (Guest),
18-Nov-09 12:31 AM, #7
RE: Perhaps He is,
Isildur,
18-Nov-09 12:43 AM, #8
The lack of posts might be indicative of why,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
18-Nov-09 03:09 AM, #9
Ravon had significantly more, as I recall,
tngni (Guest),
18-Nov-09 03:45 AM, #10
Well....,
Lightmaged (Guest),
18-Nov-09 08:42 PM, #13
RE: Well....,
Daevryn,
18-Nov-09 09:10 PM, #14
I usually look at the style of play...,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:09 AM, #18
and Daev usually look at their IP. n/t,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:00 AM, #24
RE: and Daev usually look at their IP. n/t,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 01:08 AM, #26
Had huge respect for you Dwog but that all went, when y...,
Abernytee (Guest),
17-Nov-09 07:46 AM, #4
Sorry for killing you in a PK mud.,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
18-Nov-09 11:37 PM, #16
You may still get your wish but I have to respond a lit...,
Abernytee (Guest),
19-Nov-09 05:32 AM, #39
Yea, you have time only for whiny chars n/t,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 06:59 AM, #42
:-),
Abernytee (Guest),
19-Nov-09 11:25 AM, #59
RE: You may still get your wish but I have to respond a...,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 03:02 PM, #88
Looks like I will have to rethink my life in that case....,
Abernytee (Guest),
19-Nov-09 05:30 PM, #99
Fail. Girls can't 'rethink'. You are Emo girl. n/t,
Beront (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:38 AM, #110
All because I would not mudsex with you....sorry but yo...,
Abernytee (Guest),
20-Nov-09 05:30 AM, #114
Why can't girls rethink? nt,
Valkenar,
20-Nov-09 02:48 PM, #132
Don't look for sense in Beront post n/t,
Abernytee (Guest),
20-Nov-09 04:49 PM, #135
So you agree that you outted Dwoggurd char~,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
20-Nov-09 10:54 AM, #116
Remove your head from Dwoggurd's ass and take a breath.,
Abernyte,
20-Nov-09 01:04 PM, #128
Nice one Dwog.,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
17-Nov-09 05:57 AM, #3
Keep telling that yourself. Hehe,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
18-Nov-09 11:49 PM, #17
I didn't use barrier because I wanted to suck you in.,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
19-Nov-09 04:42 AM, #38
Well played.,
Arrna (Guest),
17-Nov-09 01:32 AM, #2
Well done.,
Rhyaldrin (Guest),
16-Nov-09 11:47 PM, #1
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