Isildur | Thu 19-Nov-09 02:03 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#88149, "RE: Um"
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>You aren't forced to come and defend. How ever quitting in this >case sure lame and break CF rules.
I wasn't trying to address the quitting thing. To a degree, I think you *are* sort of forced to come defend. Most imms and mortal leaders won't fault a guy for not showing up when its a foregone conclusion. But if two people are raiding your cabal, then most people will expect you to show up and at least put up a token defense.
The problem comes when those two raiders are SO powerful that there IS no "token" defense, i.e. you incur a high risk of death to even show up AT ALL.
>As Mizfara you didn't mind of coming and attacking >centurions/vanquisher in order to make me come there.
I don't recall doing it for that reason. I would periodically clear out centurions just to keep the path to the Vanquisher open in case I had to retrieve at some point. Also it forced Empire to continually place new ones, which depleted their donations.
If I attacked the Vanquisher it was probably for the same reason: a pre-emptive weakening to make the job of retrieval easier.
>"no-win" does not mean "no chances to survive" actualy you >have a lot of chances to survive encounter with AP unless he >has a lot of charges.
I'm using "no win" to mean "no realistic chance of killing the person you're fighting". Could I have engaged Gzurweeg on the Eastern Road and lived? Probably, if I put up a bunch of preps. But what's the point? I'm not going to kill him. All I've done is waste preps.
>For example you never fought with Ahtieli because you though >it's "no-win" situation but you fought a lot with people who >had HIGHER chances to kill you than me. I'm not saying it's >bad though.
I fought those people because I thought I could kill them. Biklaha is a good example. I didn't think I had any chance to kill Ahtieli, even in the wilderness, so I didn't try.
>Sure you had to go somewhere.. because it gave you a lot of >advantages rather than fighting before someone's cabal. Nor >you could attack a lot of cabals anyway.
Uh, I could attack any cabal I chose to. The point is that, when I killed someone, *usually* they were an unwilling participant in the affair. Killing someone whose only objective is to "get away" seems slightly more cool than killing someone who knows he's outmatched but feels obligated to fight you anyway because his role demands it.
>Also you were a stealth class. Probably you should try to do >it as non-stealth class against enemy who just quit/teleport >whenever he sees you.
That's the cost of not playing a stealth class.
So you know, I don't so much mind the "global summon" thing when the matchup isn't that skewed. Like, a non-rager warrior attacking another warrior's cabal outer in order to get that guy to come fight. Warrior vs. warrior can get pretty skewed in outlying cases, but usually it's not "assured death" for either party.
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(AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Gzurweeg the Fist of Darkness, Imp...
[View all] , Death_Angel, Mon 16-Nov-09 11:12 PM
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Gzurweeg the Fist of Darkness,...,
Ecekai (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:55 PM, #108
Not sure I agree,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
20-Nov-09 03:48 AM, #111
I am reminded strongly of a story...,
Artificial- (Guest),
20-Nov-09 09:30 AM, #115
please post some logs,
logslover (Guest),
20-Nov-09 11:58 AM, #120
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Gzurweeg the Fist of Darkness,...,
logs lover (Guest),
20-Nov-09 11:57 AM, #119
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Gzurweeg the Fist of Darkness,...,
someone (Guest),
22-Nov-09 08:16 PM, #173
Thank you.,
Grobbak,
19-Nov-09 11:08 AM, #57
Farewells,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
18-Nov-09 11:25 PM, #15
hahahahahaha,
Susu (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:38 AM, #19
Wait, you were the quiter and,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:58 AM, #22
Never happened.,
Susu (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:14 AM, #28
Hahaha,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:26 AM, #37
Maybe it was just against the particular 'automated' bu...,
Abernytee (Guest),
19-Nov-09 06:14 AM, #40
YEA! I had the BASH BUTTON OMG! n/t,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 06:57 AM, #41
As a hardcore levelsitting rager...,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:38 AM, #30
Part 2,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:05 AM, #34
I'm sure he is going to ignore these logs~,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:51 PM, #64
RE: hahahahahaha,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:50 PM, #63
RE: Farewells,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:48 AM, #20
But you are the well know quiter,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:55 AM, #21
I take great pride in the fact,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:00 AM, #23
Ranting? LOL,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:02 AM, #25
Well, I disagree:,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 01:12 AM, #27
RE: But you are the well know quiter,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 01:24 AM, #29
This is an odd remark,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:50 AM, #32
Um.,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:07 AM, #35
I agree it's better to stop here,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:10 AM, #36
RE: Um.,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 10:16 AM, #51
RE: This is an odd remark,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 07:17 AM, #43
Believe or not,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 11:26 AM, #60
RE: Believe or not,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 11:40 AM, #61
RE: Believe or not,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 12:10 PM, #62
RE: Believe or not,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:10 PM, #65
I used to remember a log...,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:20 PM, #103
There are also logs of him taking on groups of 10 or mo...,
Minyar1 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 10:18 AM, #167
Mind posting at least one of such logs? ~,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 06:26 PM, #171
He posted them as CAbdru at the time.,
Minyar1 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 08:42 PM, #175
RE: He posted them as CAbdru at the time.,
Ahti (Guest),
22-Nov-09 08:58 PM, #176
Nope...and I don't care to do the looking. I just remem...,
Minyar1 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 09:02 PM, #177
RE: Nope...and I don't care to do the looking. I just r...,
Ahti (Guest),
22-Nov-09 09:07 PM, #178
I remember commenting about logs where Cabdru only spam...,
Pro (Guest),
23-Nov-09 09:33 AM, #182
RE: Believe or not,
Daevryn,
22-Nov-09 11:01 AM, #169
Anyone who is not blind will,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 07:52 PM, #172
Well,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:27 PM, #69
RE: Well,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 01:46 PM, #72
Again,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:10 PM, #78
RE: Again,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 04:50 PM, #96
As that person I am confused.,
Cornholio (Guest),
20-Nov-09 05:14 AM, #112
Hey, don't throw rocks in glass houses....,
Arrna (Guest),
19-Nov-09 04:35 PM, #95
I can't confirm or deny that,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 05:06 PM, #98
Ooh, I didn't mean that it was a bad move NOT to try...,
Arrna (Guest),
19-Nov-09 06:10 PM, #101
Yeah, it was me and you on.,
Aeinrez (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:14 PM, #102
Huh, lol?,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:58 PM, #104
Whatever you think of Gzurweeg,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
21-Nov-09 07:28 AM, #153
Common english phrase,
Valkenar,
19-Nov-09 09:38 AM, #48
RE: This is an odd remark,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 10:19 AM, #52
It was Sashrimito,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:54 AM, #54
Did you miss the part where he is agree,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:02 AM, #33
RE: Did you miss the part where he is agree,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 07:19 AM, #44
You are "Bad in reading".,
Pro (Guest),
19-Nov-09 11:02 AM, #56
I read it the same way... hmm....,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:12 PM, #66
Hey....point out "EXACTLY" where he said he quit.,
Lornis (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:04 PM, #76
I'm not going,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:43 PM, #83
I didn't ask you to show us a log.,
Lornis (Guest),
19-Nov-09 09:01 PM, #105
I am shocked at all his Homophobia. Think he is protest...,
Gok Wan (Guest),
20-Nov-09 05:21 AM, #113
Nah, just an a-hole nt,
Valkenar,
20-Nov-09 11:09 AM, #117
RE: I didn't ask you to show us a log.,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
20-Nov-09 11:59 AM, #121
I reread your posts here.,
Malakhi (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:45 PM, #125
RE: I reread your posts here.,
Mmumma (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:49 PM, #126
RE: But you are the well know quiter,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:38 PM, #70
He's not saying I avoided him.,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:44 PM, #84
Man, that's getting old.,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:59 PM, #86
OK.,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 03:09 PM, #90
RE: Man, that's getting old.,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 03:45 PM, #91
I don't know your character,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
21-Nov-09 07:33 AM, #154
Please re-read Malakhi's post,
Twist,
21-Nov-09 09:51 AM, #158
He is likely overtired. Younger women can do that to a ...,
Abernytee (Guest),
21-Nov-09 03:55 PM, #161
RE: Farewells,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 10:13 AM, #50
Um,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:25 PM, #68
RE: Um,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 02:03 PM #75
Surprise, surprise.,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:14 PM, #80
I'm not sure what for this log,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:40 PM, #82
Partially agree,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:46 PM, #71
RE: Partially agree,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:30 PM, #81
RE: Partially agree,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:46 PM, #85
RE: Partially agree,
Malakhi (Guest),
19-Nov-09 03:00 PM, #87
See? The warning of full sac,
Beront (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:27 AM, #109
Nothing like making an IC warning for full saccing on a...,
Minyar1 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 10:21 AM, #168
RE: Nothing like making an IC warning for full saccing ...,
Ahtieli,
22-Nov-09 08:27 PM, #174
Just fyi...,
Twist,
23-Nov-09 12:16 AM, #180
Oh,
Ahti (Guest),
23-Nov-09 05:21 AM, #181
She? Who is She? nt,
Minyar1 (Guest),
23-Nov-09 09:48 PM, #183
She would be Mergulla, the person quoted in Ahtieli's p...,
Adekar.guest (Guest),
24-Nov-09 04:44 AM, #185
Let me clear this up then...,
Minyar1 (Guest),
23-Nov-09 09:56 PM, #184
Correction,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 03:09 PM, #89
I have to admit I had alot of the same feelings as Mala...,
Bartis (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:57 PM, #74
I'd want to hear Gzurweeg's side of this,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 03:56 PM, #92
Bartis's story,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 04:27 PM, #94
Holds water,
Hyshrawr (Guest),
19-Nov-09 04:59 PM, #97
I have to agree with Nep here,
jatropha (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:37 PM, #107
Yeah...,
Daevryn,
20-Nov-09 11:16 AM, #118
Disagree,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:26 PM, #122
RE: Disagree,
Daevryn,
20-Nov-09 12:30 PM, #123
RE: Disagree,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:36 PM, #124
RE: Disagree,
Daevryn,
20-Nov-09 02:35 PM, #131
I'm somewhat agree,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
21-Nov-09 06:29 AM, #152
This nuance is perhaps lost in translation....,
Daevryn,
21-Nov-09 07:57 AM, #155
RE: Disagree,
Frorania (Guest),
20-Nov-09 08:14 PM, #142
Sure,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
21-Nov-09 05:53 AM, #151
Then what you assume?,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:53 PM, #127
One reason I do stuff like that,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
20-Nov-09 02:03 PM, #129
Those are all great ideas. If only I had thought of the...,
Bartis (Guest),
20-Nov-09 03:57 PM, #134
It's Ironic,
Hyshrawr (Guest),
20-Nov-09 06:44 PM, #138
RE: It's Ironic,
Isildur,
20-Nov-09 07:16 PM, #139
RE: It's Ironic,
Hyshrawr (Guest),
20-Nov-09 07:27 PM, #140
RE: It's Ironic,
Daevryn,
20-Nov-09 08:35 PM, #143
Not interested to rehash it again, but...,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
20-Nov-09 10:11 PM, #145
To be fair,
Hyshrawr (Guest),
20-Nov-09 11:21 PM, #146
How can Nep keep players around when he flags ever othe...,
Krilcovss (Guest),
20-Nov-09 05:02 PM, #137
Heh.....I'm pretty sure he's calling this action douche...,
Batman (Anonymous),
21-Nov-09 08:20 AM, #156
Disagree again,
blackbird,
20-Nov-09 02:22 PM, #130
Don't kid yourself. I wasn't hiding from you.,
Bartis (Guest),
20-Nov-09 03:52 PM, #133
Heh nep.,
Krilcovs (Guest),
20-Nov-09 05:01 PM, #136
Well played,
Asthiss,
19-Nov-09 01:48 AM, #31
RE: Farewells,
Derogker (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:24 AM, #45
Just a question (which I'm certain you answered on my g...,
Arrna (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:29 AM, #46
Ooh one more thing...,
Arrna (Guest),
19-Nov-09 07:36 AM, #47
Hehe,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 11:11 AM, #58
RE: Farewells,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 09:54 AM, #49
That's why we all hate you and all your characters. Heh...,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:57 PM, #73
RE: That's why we all hate you and all your characters....,
Isildur,
19-Nov-09 02:10 PM, #79
Remarks,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 05:30 PM, #100
RE: Farewells,
Enlilt (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:27 AM, #53
Who you were? Hehe, not seriously.,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
19-Nov-09 04:02 PM, #93
RE: Farewells,
Lorn (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:54 AM, #55
It was at least six or seven of you in range for me. nt,
Lornis (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:19 PM, #67
You fooled me,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 02:06 PM, #77
RE: Farewells,
Kalisda (Guest),
19-Nov-09 10:06 PM, #106
Meh!,
Frorania (Guest),
20-Nov-09 08:12 PM, #141
About raiding,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
20-Nov-09 09:29 PM, #144
RE: About raiding,
Frorania (Guest),
21-Nov-09 12:07 AM, #147
People, when you will learn...,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
21-Nov-09 12:59 AM, #148
RE: People, when you will learn...,
Frorania (Guest),
21-Nov-09 02:30 AM, #149
I'd have to defend Dwoggurd here,
Ghrummin (Guest),
21-Nov-09 02:43 AM, #150
Except that,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
21-Nov-09 08:34 AM, #157
RE: About raiding,
Isildur,
21-Nov-09 10:23 AM, #159
Re,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
21-Nov-09 02:42 PM, #160
You always were a dip####, but I can't blame you.,
Kyaltaru (Guest),
21-Nov-09 04:39 PM, #162
permagroup definition,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
21-Nov-09 07:22 PM, #163
FWIW, I (re)wrote that helpfile as it is currently word...,
Twist,
21-Nov-09 08:48 PM, #164
Well,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
22-Nov-09 11:50 AM, #170
Let me put it another way...,
Twist,
22-Nov-09 09:14 PM, #179
I feel so great,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
22-Nov-09 06:19 AM, #165
So many milestones in one short life, go you. ~,
Abernytee (Guest),
22-Nov-09 09:55 AM, #166
Really enjoying this role.,
RobDarken__ (Guest),
18-Nov-09 08:40 AM, #12
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Gzurweeg the Fist of Darkness,...,
Alimas (Guest),
18-Nov-09 07:47 AM, #11
You're welcome...,
Twist,
17-Nov-09 03:14 PM, #5
Dwoggurd is notoriously lazy in his goodbye posts ;) NT,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
17-Nov-09 05:32 PM, #6
Perhaps He is,
Beront (Guest),
18-Nov-09 12:31 AM, #7
RE: Perhaps He is,
Isildur,
18-Nov-09 12:43 AM, #8
The lack of posts might be indicative of why,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
18-Nov-09 03:09 AM, #9
Ravon had significantly more, as I recall,
tngni (Guest),
18-Nov-09 03:45 AM, #10
Well....,
Lightmaged (Guest),
18-Nov-09 08:42 PM, #13
RE: Well....,
Daevryn,
18-Nov-09 09:10 PM, #14
I usually look at the style of play...,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
19-Nov-09 12:09 AM, #18
and Daev usually look at their IP. n/t,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 01:00 AM, #24
RE: and Daev usually look at their IP. n/t,
Daevryn,
19-Nov-09 01:08 AM, #26
Had huge respect for you Dwog but that all went, when y...,
Abernytee (Guest),
17-Nov-09 07:46 AM, #4
Sorry for killing you in a PK mud.,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
18-Nov-09 11:37 PM, #16
You may still get your wish but I have to respond a lit...,
Abernytee (Guest),
19-Nov-09 05:32 AM, #39
Yea, you have time only for whiny chars n/t,
Beront (Guest),
19-Nov-09 06:59 AM, #42
:-),
Abernytee (Guest),
19-Nov-09 11:25 AM, #59
RE: You may still get your wish but I have to respond a...,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
19-Nov-09 03:02 PM, #88
Looks like I will have to rethink my life in that case....,
Abernytee (Guest),
19-Nov-09 05:30 PM, #99
Fail. Girls can't 'rethink'. You are Emo girl. n/t,
Beront (Guest),
20-Nov-09 12:38 AM, #110
All because I would not mudsex with you....sorry but yo...,
Abernytee (Guest),
20-Nov-09 05:30 AM, #114
Why can't girls rethink? nt,
Valkenar,
20-Nov-09 02:48 PM, #132
Don't look for sense in Beront post n/t,
Abernytee (Guest),
20-Nov-09 04:49 PM, #135
So you agree that you outted Dwoggurd char~,
Ahtieli2 (Guest),
20-Nov-09 10:54 AM, #116
Remove your head from Dwoggurd's ass and take a breath.,
Abernyte,
20-Nov-09 01:04 PM, #128
Nice one Dwog.,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
17-Nov-09 05:57 AM, #3
Keep telling that yourself. Hehe,
Gzurweeg (Guest),
18-Nov-09 11:49 PM, #17
I didn't use barrier because I wanted to suck you in.,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
19-Nov-09 04:42 AM, #38
Well played.,
Arrna (Guest),
17-Nov-09 01:32 AM, #2
Well done.,
Rhyaldrin (Guest),
16-Nov-09 11:47 PM, #1
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