Valkenar | Wed 27-May-09 02:07 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#1876, "RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system"
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This is mostly a redo of post I made on the gameplay board a while ago, modified to address an issue zulgh raised re: offhand-wandiness
Here's what I hope my idea does: Gives mages some more baseline DR and lowers their top-end damage reduction potential, allowing them to be solo-viable without resorting to extremely conservative, while keeping their average power level about the same. The system I am proposing preserves a significant benefit to exploring, while reducing mandatory tedium. It retains the ability to ambush mages out gathering preps in predictable locations. It also adds some level of tactical choice in deciding how to prep.
At level 15 casters learn the spell "create magic armor wand." This creates a one-charge, limitted wand that contains the spell "magic armor." The magic armor spell stacks up to three times, with increasing damage resistance per application, but decreasing duration. There is also a timer which prevents the mage from creating beginning a new stack. Here are some sample numbers to illustrate the idea. The numbers I'm using are intended to be mostly in line with a/b/s, but slightly weaker all around.
Stack TotalDR% Duration Timeout 1 10 12 24 2 20 10 36 3 35 8 54
There are two types of spell components (I'll call them gem and book for now) that can be used to increase the damage reduction, and they are interchangeable for this purpose. Using one adds 2 per cast and using both adds 5.
Stack One component Both components 1 12 15 2 24 30 3 41 50
The syntax for using both would be something like cast 'create magic armor wand' gem book
Both are 3-charge, limitted wands. If cast as part of the spell a charge is consumed but the spell contained does not get cast. The gem contains the spell "Extend" which increases the duration by 1 tick if no gems were used in the last cast and is incompatible with the gem's DR-enhancing effect. The book contains the spell "Recover" which reduces the no-cast timer by half (to a minimum of 1).
The gem is available for sale at 2-4g or so in a few very magicy places (High Tower of Sorcery, Consortium, Thar-Acacia, etc), they may vary cosmetically but are all the same. The book is found in the current sleek barrier locations and assigned per-character in the same way.
Details: Sanc, barrier are incompatible with magic armor > 20% dr aura, shield are incompatible with magic armor > 25% dr Casting cost is nominal (20-40) Character under level 35 are limitted to 2 stacks and those under level 20 are limitted to 1 application. sleeks no longer exist Timeout is halved on death Item limits are to prevent container storage only.
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Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system
[View all] , Zulghinlour, Mon 25-May-09 11:52 PM
Area based.,
Semaphore,
13-Aug-09 10:39 AM, #230
RE: Area based.,
Daevryn,
13-Aug-09 10:40 AM, #231
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Jugynheim,
27-Jul-09 10:22 PM, #228
Slight addition to detect artifact?,
Habbs,
15-Jul-09 02:45 PM, #224
*Thumbs up* N/t,
Alandale (Guest),
15-Jul-09 11:00 PM, #225
That would be interesting! nt,
Dervish,
17-Jul-09 11:09 PM, #226
And another idea,
Habbs,
27-Jul-09 10:22 PM, #227
*Thumbs Down* (Wall-o-text),
Seil clavin (Guest),
11-Aug-09 09:08 PM, #229
Small request,
Kadsies (Guest),
07-Jul-09 12:28 PM, #214
It isnt that hard, ive gotten the quest @ level 37.,
Cerunnir,
07-Jul-09 02:38 PM, #215
And remember that 'k' is right next to 'l' when you loo...,
Abernytee (Guest),
08-Jul-09 09:28 AM, #219
RE: And remember that 'k' is right next to 'l' when you...,
Cerunnir,
09-Jul-09 11:09 PM, #222
So you're just not very observant? (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
07-Jul-09 01:14 PM, #216
I would live RL in brief if I could. n/t,
Kadsies (Guest),
07-Jul-09 06:40 PM, #217
Married man? -nt-,
Mek (Guest),
07-Jul-09 08:23 PM, #218
I permanently turned brief off after obs xp was introdu...,
DurNominator,
08-Jul-09 09:28 AM, #220
Instant-Fix.,
Magey (Guest),
06-Jul-09 09:18 PM, #213
RE: Instant-Fix.,
Magey (Guest),
09-Jul-09 11:09 PM, #221
I like this Idea but...,
Iza,
09-Jul-09 11:09 PM, #223
Work scrolls into the mix,
Doof (Guest),
04-Jul-09 12:40 AM, #212
Weaker alternatives,
Void,
17-Jun-09 11:27 AM, #209
One more change and you are done! txt,
SomeDude (Guest),
16-Jun-09 01:53 PM, #203
Eh.,
Daevryn,
16-Jun-09 01:57 PM, #204
RE: Eh.,
Zulghinlour,
16-Jun-09 02:05 PM, #205
Just a thought from a player perspective,
Mek (Guest),
16-Jun-09 02:29 PM, #207
What Mekantos said. nt,
SomeDude (Guest),
16-Jun-09 03:01 PM, #208
Agreed,
Habbs,
17-Jun-09 09:38 PM, #210
Please...,
Forsakenz (Guest),
16-Jun-09 02:29 PM, #206
One thing that would definitely help,
Mek (Guest),
15-Jun-09 02:49 PM, #201
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Eskelian,
13-Jun-09 12:06 PM, #198
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Eskelian-lazy (Guest),
24-Jun-09 02:50 PM, #211
Sir - Some concise thoughts from a no-OOC cheat ring ex...,
Humbert,
13-Jun-09 10:34 AM, #197
I really good suggestion!,
Arrna (Guest),
13-Jun-09 10:07 PM, #199
I agree you old woman!,
Humbet (Guest),
14-Jun-09 12:12 PM, #200
My Idea: Making Mages Viable.,
Iza,
12-Jun-09 06:23 PM, #190
This is actually a really good idea with a few changes.,
Vet (Guest),
12-Jun-09 06:49 PM, #191
Though your missing a vital point...,
Arrna (Guest),
12-Jun-09 08:19 PM, #192
RE: My Idea: Making Mages Viable.,
Daevryn,
12-Jun-09 07:25 PM, #193
But...,
Iza,
13-Jun-09 10:34 AM, #196
Why not just keep it like it was with a few changes?,
Vet (Guest),
11-Jun-09 07:44 PM, #187
Do away with the massive -regen on damredux.,
VargLazy (Guest),
11-Jun-09 07:44 PM, #185
Idea: Something for everyone,
Artificial,
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #179
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Isildur,
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #178
The problem I have with cool down timers,
Dragomir,
11-Jun-09 07:44 PM, #184
RE: The problem I have with cool down timers,
Isildur,
12-Jun-09 03:14 PM, #189
Problem,
Mek (Guest),
11-Jun-09 07:44 PM, #186
But now they are #### more anyway, so why to bother? n/...,
Dervish,
12-Jun-09 09:45 AM, #188
Another Suggestion, Way different than current txt,
SomeDude (Guest),
10-Jun-09 02:16 PM, #170
For the record....,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-09 02:36 PM, #171
Fine. Just throwing out ideas! nt,
Larcat,
10-Jun-09 02:37 PM, #172
Do away with sleeks.,
KennyPowers (Guest),
10-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #160
Zulgh, man.,
Dallevian,
10-Jun-09 11:37 AM, #157
RE: Zulgh, man.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 11:41 AM, #158
I have, yo.,
Dal Forsaken (Guest),
10-Jun-09 01:48 PM, #168
RE: I have, yo.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 09:04 PM, #173
But you're open to it?,
Forsakenz (Guest),
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #177
Other reasons I like my idea.,
Forsakenz (Guest),
10-Jun-09 02:16 PM, #169
RE: Other reasons I like my idea.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 09:09 PM, #174
Suggestion for a system.,
SomeDude (Guest),
09-Jun-09 10:17 PM, #151
You stole my idea.... which I stole from Rade. Totally ...,
Java,
09-Jun-09 10:51 PM, #155
Sorry, didn't read the whole thread. Good idea! nt,
SomeDude (Guest),
10-Jun-09 11:37 AM, #156
RE: Suggestion for a system.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 11:43 AM, #159
RE: Suggestion for a system.,
Tac,
10-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #161
Specific answers.,
SomeDude (Guest),
10-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #162
RE: Specific answers.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 01:36 PM, #165
Devil's Advocate...,
Tac,
10-Jun-09 01:48 PM, #167
RE: Devil's Advocate...,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 09:12 PM, #175
RE: Devil's Advocate...,
Java,
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #182
Isn't the idea to NOT have "difficult" and "easy" locat...,
Java,
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #180
RE: Specific answers.,
Dervish,
12-Jun-09 08:19 PM, #194
RE: Specific answers.,
Daevryn,
12-Jun-09 08:45 PM, #195
An alternate form of the same basic idea.,
SomeDude (Guest),
10-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #163
Another note....,
SomeDude (Guest),
10-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #164
RE: Suggestion for a system.,
Java,
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #181
I think plain and simple it should be like this.,
Vet (Guest),
02-Jun-09 02:21 PM, #146
RE: I think plain and simple it should be like this.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 01:38 PM, #166
Challenge system on top of exploration idea,
Grudan,
01-Jun-09 10:27 AM, #140
RE: Challenge system on top of exploration idea,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 09:17 PM, #176
RE: Challenge system on top of exploration idea,
Grudan - Guest (Guest),
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #183
New system suggestion,
Exit,
01-Jun-09 02:30 AM, #134
RE: New system suggestion,
Exit,
01-Jun-09 08:10 AM, #136
RE: New system suggestion,
Daevryn,
01-Jun-09 08:25 AM, #139
RE: New system suggestion,
Exitguest (Guest),
01-Jun-09 06:55 PM, #143
Just one thing from your post here...,
SomeDude (Guest),
09-Jun-09 10:17 PM, #152
If you read what Zulg has been saying....,
Arrna (Guest),
01-Jun-09 08:10 AM, #138
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Rade_ (Guest),
01-Jun-09 12:30 AM, #133
I like the second part of this..,
Java,
01-Jun-09 08:10 AM, #135
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Straklaw,
01-Jun-09 08:10 AM, #137
There's only one check per location. So you go there, a...,
Java,
01-Jun-09 04:13 PM, #141
I'm refererring to new characters, not the same one.,
Straklaw,
02-Jun-09 10:02 AM, #145
Which isn't any better in the current system..,
Java,
02-Jun-09 07:18 PM, #148
RE: I'm refererring to new characters, not the same one...,
Rade_ (Guest),
04-Jun-09 03:11 PM, #149
I think, if it was done right....,
Tac,
04-Jun-09 11:27 PM, #150
Too exploitable,
Valkenar,
09-Jun-09 10:17 PM, #153
So you wouldn't try getting them at lvl 30 or so?,
Java,
09-Jun-09 10:51 PM, #154
Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 04:59 PM, #95
Will RC rewarded shield remain the same?,
RC winner (Guest),
28-May-09 06:28 PM, #96
Likely, yes (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:13 PM, #103
Things I'd like to ask/tweak,
Guy (Guest),
28-May-09 06:28 PM, #97
RE: Things I'd like to ask/tweak,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:17 PM, #104
YES PLEASE MASSA! I really like this.~,
Treebeard1 (Guest),
28-May-09 06:28 PM, #98
RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Dervish,
28-May-09 06:28 PM, #99
RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:22 PM, #105
RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Dervish,
28-May-09 11:02 PM, #113
RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 11:04 PM, #114
RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Dervish,
28-May-09 11:27 PM, #115
I know you're bending over backward here.,
Scrimbul,
30-May-09 10:52 AM, #123
RE: I know you're bending over backward here.,
Zulghinlour,
30-May-09 07:23 PM, #128
Some feedback,
Mek (Guest),
28-May-09 06:28 PM, #100
RE: Some feedback,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:25 PM, #106
RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Isildur,
28-May-09 07:02 PM, #101
RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:30 PM, #108
that sounds pretty do-able,
Aodh,
28-May-09 07:07 PM, #102
RE: that sounds pretty do-able,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:31 PM, #109
I LOVE YOU. nt,
Lye (Guest),
28-May-09 07:37 PM, #110
Just curious,
Torak_guest (Guest),
28-May-09 08:52 PM, #111
RE: Just curious,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 08:53 PM, #112
Concerns within.,
Splntrd,
29-May-09 01:09 AM, #116
RE: Concerns within.,
Zulghinlour,
29-May-09 01:11 AM, #117
Love this idea.,
Zephon,
29-May-09 08:49 PM, #118
I like this idea.,
Koe (Guest),
29-May-09 11:35 PM, #119
RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
DurNominator,
30-May-09 10:52 AM, #120
I am on board with this 100%...,
_Magus_,
30-May-09 10:52 AM, #122
RE: I am on board with this 100%...,
Zulghinlour,
30-May-09 07:16 PM, #126
So when-ish are you expecting this to go in?,
anon_ (Guest),
30-May-09 06:12 PM, #124
I currently have no timeline (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
30-May-09 07:14 PM, #125
RE: So when-ish are you expecting this to go in?,
Daevryn,
31-May-09 11:47 AM, #131
One quick question...,
Dragomir,
31-May-09 01:01 AM, #129
RE: One quick question...,
Zulghinlour,
31-May-09 01:02 AM, #130
Like it. ~,
Abernytee (Guest),
31-May-09 05:36 PM, #132
Small detect artifact adjustment for Outlanders.,
ibuki,
02-Jun-09 02:42 AM, #144
more drawback ideas,
Laxminator (Guest),
02-Jun-09 07:18 PM, #147
If anyone's been keeping score....,
Daevryn,
16-Jun-09 01:41 PM, #202
Supplemental idea.,
Forsakenz (Guest),
28-May-09 02:39 PM, #92
RE: Supplemental idea.,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 04:54 PM, #94
More wand locatons pop based on hours.,
Ayalah (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #80
What about something closer to the Thief ingredient sys...,
Yhorian (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #79
I like this idea if...,
Forsakenz (Guest),
28-May-09 01:45 PM, #91
No huge change needed.,
Pissudin (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #77
RE: No huge change needed.,
Daevryn,
28-May-09 10:46 AM, #83
Yup, i know...,
Pissudin (Guest),
28-May-09 12:08 PM, #87
I agree with this.,
Cerunnir,
28-May-09 11:21 AM, #85
RE: I agree with this.,
Isildur,
28-May-09 12:50 PM, #88
RE: No huge change needed.,
Isildur,
28-May-09 12:50 PM, #89
Use the guildmaster (sorry if this is a repeat),
Abernytee (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #76
RE: Use the guildmaster (sorry if this is a repeat),
Zulghinlour,
30-May-09 07:17 PM, #127
One crazy idea that is not so crazy actually,
Dwoggurd,
27-May-09 11:13 PM, #70
This isn't even worth a response (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 11:19 PM, #74
ROFL! I LOVE this idea. n/t,
ROFL (Guest),
01-Jun-09 06:55 PM, #142
Tricky question this.,
Istirith01 (Guest),
27-May-09 09:29 PM, #65
RE: Tricky question this.,
Daevryn,
27-May-09 09:55 PM, #68
Quick aside, four path invoker is very viable.,
TMNS (Guest),
27-May-09 11:13 PM, #72
RE: Quick aside, four path invoker is very viable.,
Istirith01 (Guest),
27-May-09 11:41 PM, #75
RE: Fair enough.,
Istirith01 (Guest),
27-May-09 11:41 PM, #73
Is this too stupidly simple?,
Puppet (Guest),
27-May-09 08:34 PM, #60
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Theerkla,
27-May-09 08:13 PM, #57
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 08:16 PM, #58
a re-adjusting,
laxicus (Guest),
27-May-09 07:52 PM, #55
RE: a re-adjusting,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 08:43 PM, #62
RE: a re-adjusting,
Krysantur (Guest),
27-May-09 10:02 PM, #69
Aura/SHield/Barrier,
Lightmaged (Guest),
27-May-09 06:48 PM, #50
RE: Aura/SHield/Barrier,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 07:21 PM, #54
RE: Aura/SHield/Barrier,
Lightmaged (Guest),
27-May-09 09:29 PM, #64
Re,
Dwoggurd,
27-May-09 09:29 PM, #66
Goals,
Valkenar,
27-May-09 04:12 PM, #44
my idea:,
Isildur,
27-May-09 04:12 PM, #43
RE: my idea:,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 07:47 PM, #56
RE: my idea:,
Isildur,
27-May-09 08:54 PM, #63
RE: my idea:,
Daevryn,
27-May-09 09:26 PM, #67
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Valkenar,
27-May-09 03:12 PM #42
Give limited versions of the protection spells to mages,
Jagaub,
27-May-09 01:57 PM, #41
RE: Give limited versions of the protection spells to m...,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 04:44 PM, #49
Give mages another protection spell, reduce power of th...,
Jagaub,
27-May-09 01:57 PM, #40
I'd be more inclined...,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 04:42 PM, #48
To keep it simple.,
The Heretic,
27-May-09 01:09 PM, #38
RE: To keep it simple.,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 04:28 PM, #47
I agree,
The Heretic,
27-May-09 06:48 PM, #51
RE: I agree,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 06:50 PM, #52
RE: I agree,
The Heretic,
28-May-09 11:21 AM, #84
Retooling ABS,
Yhorian (Guest),
26-May-09 07:57 PM, #34
Good idea! I'll give more input when at home. n/t,
Arrna (Guest),
27-May-09 12:30 PM, #37
RE: Retooling ABS,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 07:00 PM, #53
Slight alteration then...,
Yhorian (Guest),
27-May-09 08:34 PM, #59
RE: Slight alteration then...,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 08:38 PM, #61
Because you said that a big complaint was finding barri...,
Yhorian (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #78
Ah crap...I accidently deleted the three responses queu...,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 05:11 PM, #32
Don't change a thing. Ever again. st,
Conservative (Guest),
26-May-09 03:42 PM, #31
RE: Don't change a thing. Ever again. st,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 04:27 PM, #46
Another Idea,
EXB_ (Guest),
26-May-09 01:13 PM, #18
RE: Another Idea,
Daevryn,
26-May-09 01:17 PM, #20
RE: Another Idea,
Isildur,
26-May-09 03:29 PM, #24
RE: EXPLORATION,
A2,
27-May-09 12:08 PM, #36
RE: EXPLORATION,
Daevryn,
27-May-09 01:38 PM, #39
Sometimes you confuse me...,
EXB,
26-May-09 03:29 PM, #25
Just to log it here,
Dwoggurd,
26-May-09 12:13 PM, #9
RE: Just to log it here,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 12:47 PM, #13
Elaborating...,
Dwoggurd,
26-May-09 02:13 PM, #21
RE: Elaborating...,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 02:40 PM, #22
Well,
Dwoggurd,
26-May-09 03:42 PM, #30
RE: Well,
Graatchman (Guest),
26-May-09 06:14 PM, #33
RE: Well,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 04:25 PM, #45
Re,
Dwoggurd,
27-May-09 11:13 PM, #71
Here's the solution:,
Balrahd. (Guest),
26-May-09 12:13 PM, #8
I'm not Zulg, but this is a really bad idea,
Dwoggurd,
26-May-09 12:52 PM, #12
Why does that make it a bad idea?,
Balrahd. (Guest),
26-May-09 01:11 PM, #17
RE: Why does that make it a bad idea?,
Daevryn,
26-May-09 01:15 PM, #19
Admittedly,
Balrahd. (Guest),
26-May-09 03:29 PM, #26
Its a Terrible thing.,
Terrible (Guest),
26-May-09 03:29 PM, #29
RE: Here's the solution:,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 01:03 PM, #16
RE: Here's the solution:,
Isildur,
26-May-09 07:57 PM, #35
Hints,
Aodh,
26-May-09 12:13 PM, #7
RE: Hints,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 12:52 PM, #14
My (slightly refined) idea.,
Forsakenz (Guest),
26-May-09 10:50 AM, #4
RE: My (slightly refined) idea.,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 02:45 PM, #23
RE: My (slightly refined) idea.,
Daevryn,
26-May-09 03:24 PM, #28
No.,
Lye (Guest),
28-May-09 07:32 PM, #107
Don't DELETE me again!,
Forsakenz (Guest),
28-May-09 12:08 PM, #86
Stackable DR spell,
Tac,
26-May-09 10:50 AM, #3
RE: Stackable DR spell,
Daevryn,
26-May-09 10:55 AM, #6
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Danis (Guest),
26-May-09 10:50 AM, #2
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 12:17 PM, #11
RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Danis (Guest),
26-May-09 03:29 PM, #27
Not precisely a new system, but one idea I read and lik...,
EXB_ (Guest),
26-May-09 10:50 AM, #1
RE: Not precisely a new system, but one idea I read and...,
Daevryn,
26-May-09 10:51 AM, #5
Honestly,
Guy (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #81
Further fleshing out,
Guy (Guest),
28-May-09 01:45 PM, #90
Rewarding long-lived characters,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 12:09 PM, #10
However,
EXB_ (Guest),
26-May-09 12:56 PM, #15
RE: Rewarding long-lived characters,
Ayalah (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #82
RE: Rewarding long-lived characters,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 02:49 PM, #93
Tie it to exp/obs xp. nt,
DurNominator,
30-May-09 10:52 AM, #121
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