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EskelianWed 27-Nov-13 10:36 AM
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#53068, "RE: In my opinion, they should."
Edited on Wed 27-Nov-13 10:42 AM

          

"...and that the next time I roll a shifter I should really try to run a well played character so that I can get the same."

I don't really think that is realistic and maybe that's the problem. Let's assume there is 0% bias against players who don't agree with you or who have different styles than you. Let's further assume that the world is perfect and you get to absolutely watch 100% of every character the same amount and see every good and bad thing they do. Even with those two non-sense assumptions, I have a feeling that whatever criteria there is for developing these rewards behind the scenes isn't consistent or metrics driven. That is to say, some rewards are better than others *not even intentionally*.

So no, I don't think to myself, "Hey I can get the same thing" because it's not realistic. It's a lottery, one that I've never won in as long as I've played and plenty of other players of higher quality than me have never won in many years as well.

A lot of it boils down to fairness, transparency and consistency. And if you can't have all those things, it's probably better to limit the impact of your rewards.

And this by the way is the same logic I have for most of my arguments - arguments against death blow, arguments against frenzied uber elementals, etc. When it comes to RP and exploration - do whatever you want - but when it comes to player versus player - skill should be the real measuring stick. Not luck. Not rewards. If PVP isn't driven 100% by player skill, it becomes meaningless and if PVP is meaningless, that kills the game for me in a major way.

  

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HOT Locked TopicAnkrahn's weapon. True or false? [View all] , Aereglen, Mon 25-Nov-13 01:31 AM
Reply A few more random comments... , Daevryn, 26-Nov-13 10:23 AM, #28
Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Sarien, 26-Nov-13 11:40 AM, #31
Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Daevryn, 26-Nov-13 11:55 AM, #32
Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Ekaerok (Anonymous), 26-Nov-13 12:13 PM, #33
     Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Sarien, 26-Nov-13 12:17 PM, #34
     Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Ekaerok (Anonymous), 26-Nov-13 12:23 PM, #35
     Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Sarien, 26-Nov-13 12:35 PM, #36
     Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Rayihn, 26-Nov-13 01:21 PM, #41
          Reply Well, that's one theory debunked., TMNS, 26-Nov-13 02:33 PM, #45
          Reply Thank you., Sarien, 26-Nov-13 02:51 PM, #53
          Reply I'd rather it get posted here..., Eskelian, 26-Nov-13 02:56 PM, #55
          Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Isildur, 26-Nov-13 09:39 PM, #62
     Reply Rewards piss me off, because they've destroyed the game..., TMNS, 26-Nov-13 02:34 PM, #46
     Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Daevryn, 26-Nov-13 12:36 PM, #37
     Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Sarien, 26-Nov-13 12:57 PM, #38
          Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Daevryn, 26-Nov-13 01:59 PM, #40
               Reply You've never actually addressed the actual problem thou..., TMNS, 26-Nov-13 02:35 PM, #47
                    Reply RE: You've never actually addressed the actual problem ..., Daevryn, 26-Nov-13 02:48 PM, #51
     Reply Perhaps you are., Zephon, 26-Nov-13 01:04 PM, #39
          Reply NO NO NO :(, TMNS, 26-Nov-13 02:43 PM, #49
               Reply In my opinion, they should., jalbrin, 26-Nov-13 03:49 PM, #57
               Reply No prob. I could always post slanderous reviews on Top..., TMNS, 26-Nov-13 04:10 PM, #59
               Reply The rock, Leaf, 27-Nov-13 03:38 PM, #69
               Reply Lulz nt, jalbrin, 27-Nov-13 06:04 PM, #71
               Reply It shouldn't slay you, jalbrin, 27-Nov-13 06:03 PM, #70
               Reply RE: In my opinion, they should., Eskelian, 27-Nov-13 10:42 AM #65
               Reply Yes?, Zephon, 26-Nov-13 06:42 PM, #61
                    Reply RE: Yes?, Eskelian, 27-Nov-13 10:15 AM, #64
                         Reply I agree with you for the most part, Zephon, 27-Nov-13 11:48 AM, #67
                              Reply Agreed. We're on the same page. n/t, Eskelian, 27-Nov-13 11:56 AM, #68
     Reply Give me a break., Eskelian, 26-Nov-13 02:31 PM, #44
     Reply RE: A few more random comments... , Isildur, 26-Nov-13 09:46 PM, #63
Reply I think, Abernyte, 26-Nov-13 02:49 PM, #52
Reply RE: I think, Daevryn, 26-Nov-13 02:53 PM, #54
     Reply cue embarrassment, one way or the other, Dallevian, 26-Nov-13 03:41 PM, #56
     Reply Ouch. I feel your pain, Abernyte., jalbrin, 26-Nov-13 03:53 PM, #58
     Reply I think I must.....wish I had logged more I could have ..., Abernyte, 26-Nov-13 04:23 PM, #60
Reply Close this thread., Scrimbul, 27-Nov-13 11:46 AM, #66
     Reply RE: Close this thread., Daevryn, 27-Nov-13 08:28 PM, #72
Reply RE: Ankrahn's weapon. True or false?, Daevryn, 26-Nov-13 12:11 AM, #21
Reply That it can do those things?, Destuvius, 25-Nov-13 06:26 AM, #1
     Reply RE: That it can do those things?, Bemused, 25-Nov-13 06:40 AM, #2
     Reply Its OP as hell, no doubt., copenhagen, 25-Nov-13 12:10 PM, #3
     Reply I'd like to point out, Aereglen, 25-Nov-13 12:25 PM, #4
     Reply whether he dies or not doesnt mean anything, CD, 25-Nov-13 12:45 PM, #5
     Reply it's not better than, Dallevian, 25-Nov-13 01:02 PM, #6
     Reply Yes it is. Muddle alone is better. nt, CD, 25-Nov-13 01:04 PM, #7
          Reply This. CD and I agree - watch the EFF out! Muddle is o..., Sarien, 25-Nov-13 01:11 PM, #8
               Reply Sadly I agree with them. Muddle is my least favorite th..., Tesline, 26-Nov-13 12:14 AM, #22
     Reply I sort of understand the complaining., Zephon, 25-Nov-13 01:52 PM, #9
     Reply RE: I sort of understand the complaining., Daevryn, 25-Nov-13 09:05 PM, #11
          Reply Wow. , TMNS, 25-Nov-13 10:19 PM, #13
          Reply RE: Wow. , Daevryn, 25-Nov-13 10:38 PM, #15
               Reply Well for starters..., TMNS, 25-Nov-13 10:55 PM, #17
                    Reply RE: Well for starters..., Zephon, 25-Nov-13 11:15 PM, #19
                    Reply RE: Well for starters..., Daevryn, 26-Nov-13 12:10 AM, #20
                         Reply Should have let him take advantage of low enemy morale ..., KaguMaru, 26-Nov-13 08:11 AM, #26
                         Reply people would steamroll you anyway nt, Hopelessdwarf, 26-Nov-13 01:32 PM, #42
                              Reply People would steamroll you too if you were linkdead nt, KaguMaru, 26-Nov-13 01:46 PM, #43
                         Reply Explain this example please, Fethugala (Anonymous), 26-Nov-13 10:58 AM, #30
                         Reply Oh Neppy..., TMNS, 26-Nov-13 02:38 PM, #48
                              Reply RE: Oh Neppy..., Daevryn, 26-Nov-13 02:46 PM, #50
          Reply Not what I expected but it makes sense., Zephon, 25-Nov-13 10:32 PM, #14
     Reply Then again, when he dies people are going to put an ast..., KaguMaru, 25-Nov-13 04:58 PM, #10
     Reply Wow this answer sucks., TMNS, 25-Nov-13 10:17 PM, #12
          Reply Do explain?, Destuvius, 25-Nov-13 10:40 PM, #16
               Reply Nothing is unclear., TMNS, 25-Nov-13 11:04 PM, #18
                    Reply I have an idea., Doof, 26-Nov-13 05:20 AM, #23
                    Reply RE: I have an idea., Bemused, 26-Nov-13 06:10 AM, #24
                         Reply Really...Do you think that was a response to observatio..., Doof, 26-Nov-13 07:24 AM, #25
                    Reply How do we reinforce your desire to not post, too?, Dallevian, 26-Nov-13 09:43 AM, #27
                    Reply I like you and all, Leaf, 26-Nov-13 10:57 AM, #29
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