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TorakFri 06-Sep-13 10:30 PM
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#51235, "RE: If you're just going to make blanket shots at me..."


          

>I asked Raybaer about this character early on, and my
>understanding
>was that you had been told you were not getting an immediately
>rolled
>up different class, but not that it was impossible through
>roleplay. You seemed to spend a lot of time right off the bat
>trying to get things you wanted immediately, such as coming to
>Nythos and other Outlander Imms about empowerment
>pre-level-10. Fortunately, you did ultimately grasp to go out
>and prove your worth to Outlander Gods before gaining some of
>their power.

The problem was that I knew with ranking I would regret it, and I did... I honestly would have done better sitting at level 10. A fire giant with 60s in his skill who won't practice is terrible for pking and in general horrendous to play with the huge lack of mana and lost concentrations. I wanted to get the ball rolling early and not rank because I knew I'd start losing con and refuse to practice so it wouldn't go away.

>Actually, I'm only aware of one class change ever, personally.
> I could be wrong those. As far as evil druids go, there have
>been five that I know of. Only two of which lasted more than
>~50 hours as an evil druid, and I was one of them.

I was one of those.

>In your case, you're somewhat going the opposite way. You
>have a race that cannot be neutral, and wants to be a class
>that cannot be evil because it's concerned about balance. As
>far as I ever saw in reading your role, you never showed a
>reason why this character should be a druid. Evil,
>nature-loving shaman? Sure. Druid? Not so much. To my
>reading...and I admit I didn't get to watch the character, I
>never saw anything that showed evil druid was in ANY way a
>better fit than nature-loving shaman.

There has been an evil druid before, as well as a good druid. The problem with the role was that I specifically stated I had no idea why I was created - it was a mini-role contest effort where I was hoping the Immortal would concoct something for me to do.... when it didn't happen I just seemed aimless.

>Just for clarity...I actually despised the role. But then, I
>much favor a reasonable, plausible role over anything
>resembling "I am a good dark-elf ranger". Not that it was a
>bad role, or that you didn't play it well, it's just not a
>role I like.

Well, can't exactly play a 2-headed giant without some strange role... and have yet to see anyone say the didn't like the character. Sorry you didn't like the role but it won a contest so meh.


>Honestly, I've tried them myself, and pretty much got pushed
>back towards "It's your character, you should probably
>decide". It's more work, and now YOU'RE to blame if stuff
>goes wrong. Also, in your case, the way you approached "blank
>slate" half looked like you were scrounging for Immortals.
>You had no particular patron, yet referenced a LOT of various
>options. I'd probably suggest leaving out having a variety of
>SPECIFIC Immortals (even if they're dead) if you're leaving it
>open.

The whole point I thought of the Greenways was that you're following something broad and NOT a specific God. Think of it like the people who believe in all the thousands of gods of everything. I left it broad because I wanted to give whoever would jump in a wide range to work with. I even had an OOC entry where I talked about this specifically (which I wrote about midway through my char's life). And yeah, lesson learned to not leave it open.

>Well, that's been said time and time again. Empowerment?
>Fine. You *NEED* to have Fjarn show up and excise the cursed
>magical stone from your body to make your character enjoyable?
> Not so much.

I thought someone would jump at the opportunity to have a minion for some purpose. Want to release a new area, or be one of the new religions thats coming out, or just want to have someone on a quest to smash flowers? Then I'm your guy. But it died out... just like Amaranthe's role contest. Guess the momentum or drive just isn't there an immland to do anything like this.

  

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HOT Topic(DELETED) Danjuh and Lona the frustrated giant [View all] , Torak, Fri 06-Sep-13 12:39 PM
Reply Don't say you weren't warned, incognito, 09-Sep-13 07:29 AM, #39
Reply Not to derail this thread..., Eskelian, 09-Sep-13 08:53 AM, #40
Reply And on the 'sacking' thing..., Eskelian, 09-Sep-13 11:03 AM, #43
Reply RE: Don't say you weren't warned, Torak, 09-Sep-13 10:01 AM, #41
     Reply RE: Don't say you weren't warned, Daevryn, 09-Sep-13 10:43 AM, #42
     Reply At the same time, it definitely came from an IMM. , TMNS, 09-Sep-13 02:30 PM, #46
     Reply Yeah to me..., Eskelian, 09-Sep-13 04:58 PM, #51
     Reply output from a "history" type command, crsweeney, 09-Sep-13 03:08 PM, #48
          Reply RE: output from a , Daevryn, 09-Sep-13 05:30 PM, #52
          Reply Not really mad :), TMNS, 10-Sep-13 12:28 PM, #53
     Reply I had always wondered where that pitchfork is from., TMNS, 09-Sep-13 02:28 PM, #45
     Reply I should have explained better, incognito, 09-Sep-13 03:10 PM, #49
Reply RE: (DELETED) Danjuh and Lona the frustrated giant, Arvam, 07-Sep-13 03:24 PM, #32
Reply I <3 you, Torak, 08-Sep-13 03:50 AM, #33
Reply Regarding dwarf transmuter..., Amberion, 08-Sep-13 08:55 AM, #35
Reply Mistaken post, ignore nt, jalbrin, 08-Sep-13 11:56 PM, #38
Reply I haven't had the pleasure of interacting or talking wi..., Amberion, 08-Sep-13 08:52 AM, #34
Reply Ignoring the drama..., Whiysdan, 06-Sep-13 02:05 PM, #9
Reply Thanks, Torak, 06-Sep-13 02:14 PM, #16
Reply You set yourself up to fail, Iklahn (Anonymous), 06-Sep-13 01:18 PM, #2
Reply Glad the IMMs can't seperate OOC from IC...., TMNS, 06-Sep-13 02:09 PM, #14
     Reply There is plenty of seperation of OOC and IC, Iklahn (Anonymous), 06-Sep-13 02:18 PM, #17
          Reply Hence why that's a #### idea (no offense)., TMNS, 06-Sep-13 02:40 PM, #20
               Reply I have to call BS as to that last part., lasentia, 06-Sep-13 03:16 PM, #21
               Reply Sam the man with odorless feces. nt, vargal, 06-Sep-13 03:37 PM, #22
               Reply My #### stinks worse than most., TMNS, 09-Sep-13 02:32 PM, #47
                    Reply RE: My #### stinks worse than most., N b M, 09-Sep-13 04:13 PM, #50
               Reply I'm not representative of "good" players, Leaf, 07-Sep-13 09:04 AM, #30
Reply RE: (DELETED) Danjuh and Lona the frustrated giant, Daevryn, 06-Sep-13 01:14 PM, #1
     Reply Nevermind, Torak, 06-Sep-13 01:33 PM, #3
     Reply You're really reaching here bud., Dallevian, 06-Sep-13 01:34 PM, #4
          Reply Gonna disagree, Torak, 06-Sep-13 01:47 PM, #5
          Reply evil gear, and fire giant gear, is the bombz, Dallevian, 06-Sep-13 02:05 PM, #
               Reply What would you rather have, Torak, 06-Sep-13 02:07 PM, #11
                    Reply honestly? evil with decent saves, Dallevian, 06-Sep-13 02:11 PM, #15
          Reply I have an FSV account., TMNS, 06-Sep-13 02:08 PM, #12
               Reply I made one but only to ask players not to post hell and..., Gaplemo, 09-Sep-13 02:20 PM, #44
     Reply And, actually, Daevryn, 06-Sep-13 01:48 PM, #6
          Reply If you're just going to make blanket shots at me..., Torak, 06-Sep-13 02:03 PM, #7
               Reply You need to realize this is his sandbox., TMNS, 06-Sep-13 02:05 PM, #8
               Reply RE: You need to realize this is his sandbox., N b M, 06-Sep-13 02:19 PM, #18
                    Reply What's sad..., TMNS, 06-Sep-13 02:39 PM, #19
               Reply RE: If you're just going to make blanket shots at me..., Daevryn, 06-Sep-13 02:06 PM, #10
               Reply What are you even talking about, Torak, 06-Sep-13 02:08 PM, #13
                    Reply RE: What are you even talking about, Daevryn, 06-Sep-13 06:02 PM, #23
                         Reply Don't remember any others..., Torak, 06-Sep-13 06:05 PM, #24
                              Reply RE: Don't remember any others..., Daevryn, 06-Sep-13 06:14 PM, #25
                              Reply RE: Don't remember any others..., N b M, 06-Sep-13 07:48 PM, #27
                                   Reply RE: Don't remember any others..., Daevryn, 06-Sep-13 08:21 PM, #28
                                        Reply RE: Don't remember any others..., Gabe, 08-Sep-13 11:05 PM, #36
                                             Reply NO GABE, Tsunami, 08-Sep-13 11:40 PM, #37
                              Reply For the record, there are dwarf mages as NPCs., Zephon, 07-Sep-13 11:00 AM, #31
               Reply RE: If you're just going to make blanket shots at me..., Nythos (Anonymous), 06-Sep-13 06:50 PM, #26
                    Reply RE: If you're just going to make blanket shots at me..., Torak, 06-Sep-13 10:30 PM #29
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