lasentia | Tue 12-Jun-12 08:37 AM |
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#45801, "RE: I can't believe I have to spell this out."
Edited on Tue 12-Jun-12 08:48 AM
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Trib's purpose is also to punish those who break laws- there are no rehabilitative, restorative or reconciliation functions in trib's justice system generally speaking. It's based entirely on harsh retribution. Death, loss of possessions.
And Trib protects people that do all the things the trib forbids in cities, but just because they don't happen to do it within four small areas trib still guarantees their safety. Hey, I just murdered this elf paladin on Eastern Road right in front of two other Maran who begin chasing me, but now I walk into galadon and this other elf paladin will protect me against the Maran that come for my head.
If thera was filled with only people of the light, trib would not really need to exist, because light people generally would not break laws anyway. Trib protects evils, and by harboring them it only encourages them and prevents their destruction. To me it sounds like they have an agenda that goes against the Maran idea of destroy evil everywhere. However, since Tribs apply their law indiscriminantly to all they are not inherently evil in so doing. They do have to be evil at times so as to apply the law evenly to all. They have to harbor a known murderer against retribution because he murdered someone outside their town and now stands next to him openly singing how he killed this elf paladin right outside.
Now you can look at Nexus. Nexus's purpose is to protect all Thera via the laws of balance. (trib's views are no more valid than nexus's in where they originate from.) These laws have no boundaries, they apply evenly across the realm, making them far less ineffectual than trib's who have that jurisdictional handicap. So Nexus applies their law indiscriminantly to all, which also does not make them inherently evil in so doing, though at times they may commit acts of evil, they are not motivated by inherent evil within- it is evil forced upon them by necessity of duty- same as the tribs engage in, as well as Maran do. Maran know killing is wrong. They know it is evil. They do it anyway, because that is their duty. Why is it you don't condemn other Maran for the atrocities they commit against evils and forever hunt them as well?
If as a Maran you think it is okay to go after one, you should go after all, otherwise you're making rationalizations to differentiate them. Saying they raid me more often to distinguish them? I'm sorry, but there are far worse things in terms of evil than raiding a cabal.
Oh, and trib will raid other cabals too. That's a decision largely left to mortal leadership, not a set in stone policy. Pretty much all of those ideas are left to the mortal leaders, as Imms like to encourage flexibility and RP in characters instead of rigid monotony.
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I'm starting an Occupy Nexun movement.
[View all] , Alston, Thu 07-Jun-12 07:51 PM
The problem,
Graatch,
12-Jun-12 10:54 AM, #114
RE: The problem,
Daevryn,
12-Jun-12 10:56 AM, #115
The real problem is Pro and Graatch,
Tac,
12-Jun-12 11:02 AM, #116
RE: The problem,
Graatch,
12-Jun-12 11:03 AM, #117
RE: The problem,
Daevryn,
12-Jun-12 11:05 AM, #118
RE: The problem,
Graatch,
12-Jun-12 11:13 AM, #120
RE: The problem,
Daevryn,
12-Jun-12 11:20 AM, #122
RE: The problem,
Graatch,
12-Jun-12 11:23 AM, #123
Maaaaaan. Are you serious? Did you just say that after ...,
Alston,
12-Jun-12 11:18 AM, #121
Couple points,
Valkenar,
10-Jun-12 09:28 PM, #66
RE: Couple points,
Graatch,
10-Jun-12 10:14 PM, #67
RE: Couple points,
Rayihn,
11-Jun-12 06:05 AM, #68
You told my Paladin to talk to and forgive them. ,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 07:47 AM, #69
Case by case basis,
Rayihn,
11-Jun-12 08:37 AM, #72
RE: Couple points,
Graatch,
11-Jun-12 09:43 AM, #73
RE: Couple points,
Rayihn,
11-Jun-12 10:40 AM, #76
RE: Couple points,
Graatch,
11-Jun-12 01:38 PM, #80
RE: Couple points,
lasentia,
11-Jun-12 02:13 PM, #81
They should be killed on sight.,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 06:34 PM, #91
RE: Couple points,
Daevryn,
11-Jun-12 03:15 PM, #82
Because Nexus is Chaotic Evil. n/t,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 06:28 PM, #87
RE: Because Nexus is Chaotic Evil. n/t,
Daevryn,
11-Jun-12 06:33 PM, #90
Okay. Not to troll. But can you explain how they aren't...,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 06:39 PM, #93
Do you listen to yourself?,
laxman,
11-Jun-12 08:29 PM, #96
RE: Okay. Not to troll. But can you explain how they ar...,
Daevryn,
11-Jun-12 09:10 PM, #97
To use the P and G point,
Artificial,
11-Jun-12 09:17 PM, #98
Speaking of retards,,,,,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 09:23 PM, #99
For you and laxman above.,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 09:39 PM, #100
RE: For you and laxman above.,
Daevryn,
11-Jun-12 09:43 PM, #101
Let me be helpful.,
Scrimbul,
11-Jun-12 10:32 PM, #102
RE: Let me be helpful.,
Daevryn,
11-Jun-12 10:40 PM, #103
That's just it. It should be.,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 10:47 PM, #104
Fortress can better influence neutrals towards goodly b...,
DurNominator,
12-Jun-12 01:05 AM, #105
You can't unrape someone, or unkill them.,
Alston,
12-Jun-12 07:47 AM, #108
puhg said it below, you are thinking like a neutral or ...,
laxman,
12-Jun-12 08:59 AM, #111
How do you forgive someone for killing someone else? Yo...,
Alston,
12-Jun-12 09:43 AM, #112
in cf people die and come back, its not as big a deal a...,
laxman,
12-Jun-12 10:31 AM, #113
All your arguments are rooted in OOC mechanics. n/t,
Alston,
12-Jun-12 11:12 AM, #119
Your view of "good align" seems far more similar to a n...,
Puhguly,
12-Jun-12 05:17 AM, #107
You're opinion seems to be rooted in moral bankruptcy.,
Alston,
12-Jun-12 07:58 AM, #109
You are dumb,
laxman,
11-Jun-12 04:23 PM, #83
Yeah, you pretty much misunderstand what he's saying. Y...,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 06:33 PM, #89
Was that with your elf invoker?,
TMNS,
11-Jun-12 04:37 PM, #85
I'm not missing anything. I said exactly that.,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 07:55 AM, #70
RE: I'm not missing anything. I said exactly that.,
DurNominator,
11-Jun-12 08:31 AM, #71
Wait a minute.,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 10:16 AM, #74
RE: Wait a minute.,
Daevryn,
11-Jun-12 10:37 AM, #75
FYI... I think Fortress would be raiding about everyone...,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 12:18 PM, #77
There are evil tribs, and neutral ones doing evil thing...,
lasentia,
11-Jun-12 01:15 PM, #78
I can't believe I have to spell this out.,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 06:31 PM, #88
RE: I can't believe I have to spell this out.,
lasentia,
12-Jun-12 08:48 AM #110
It's like this.,
DurNominator,
12-Jun-12 04:33 AM, #106
Alas, the majority and imms disagree with you. And tyra...,
Batman (Anonymous),
09-Jun-12 06:30 AM, #34
Would all of the people who hate on Nexus please name t...,
Puhguly,
08-Jun-12 04:38 PM, #21
This kills me.,
Alston,
08-Jun-12 07:17 PM, #22
The reason I bring it up is this,
Puhguly,
08-Jun-12 08:15 PM, #26
Yes I can. God that's a stupid argument.,
Alston,
08-Jun-12 10:07 PM, #29
You don't even understand neutrality properly.,
DurNominator,
09-Jun-12 05:42 AM, #33
Of course I do. And I don't think Nexun is the only int...,
Alston,
09-Jun-12 08:52 AM, #37
I don't remember any AD&D class required to be lawful.,
Homard,
09-Jun-12 09:07 AM, #39
I meant Monks.,
Alston,
09-Jun-12 10:49 AM, #41
Yep,
Tsunami,
09-Jun-12 10:57 AM, #42
They could never be Lawful Good. Because you can't sudd...,
Alston,
09-Jun-12 11:41 AM, #46
You just kind of said that Maran cant be good with that...,
Puhguly,
09-Jun-12 12:52 PM, #48
Maran want genocide vs dark-elf nt,
Tsunami,
09-Jun-12 03:27 PM, #50
Yep. Where's the disconnect here? But to be more clear....,
Alston,
09-Jun-12 04:12 PM, #51
So...,
Tsunami,
09-Jun-12 04:31 PM, #52
First of all I strayed when I agreed with your genocide...,
Alston,
09-Jun-12 04:58 PM, #53
RE: First of all I strayed when I agreed with your geno...,
Tsunami,
09-Jun-12 08:38 PM, #57
My beef with Nexus is how we are forced to accept them.,
Alston,
10-Jun-12 08:33 AM, #60
Play something other than Fortress,
Malakhi,
10-Jun-12 10:31 AM, #61
I have followed through on my threats. Thank you very m...,
Alston,
10-Jun-12 11:22 AM, #62
No, you haven't.,
Malakhi,
11-Jun-12 12:53 PM, #79
n/t,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 06:40 PM, #92
You are forced to accept neutrals of Battle and Outland...,
DurNominator,
10-Jun-12 11:50 AM, #63
They should. And I do on an indiviual basis.,
Alston,
10-Jun-12 11:54 AM, #64
You're unnecessarily limiting yourself.,
Homard,
10-Jun-12 12:45 PM, #65
Thanks. Bringing it all back. n/t,
Homard,
09-Jun-12 11:16 AM, #44
Neutral ragers and outlanders frequently hunt goodies.,
DurNominator,
09-Jun-12 11:31 AM, #45
I think Ragers should be enemies of the Fortress too.,
Alston,
09-Jun-12 11:44 AM, #47
Seconded,
DurNominator,
09-Jun-12 05:40 AM, #32
Thirded,
lasentia,
09-Jun-12 09:26 AM, #40
I've had several, and I still loathe the cabal. ,
Vladamir,
09-Jun-12 07:09 AM, #36
I've played several Nexuns.,
TMNS,
11-Jun-12 04:31 PM, #84
RE: I've played several Nexuns.,
Graatch,
11-Jun-12 05:54 PM, #86
Everyone already has their minds made up. There's no co...,
Treebeard,
08-Jun-12 12:16 PM, #18
Re: Nexun = Chaotic evil.,
Shapa,
08-Jun-12 08:58 AM, #14
Am I the only one...,
Tac,
08-Jun-12 08:48 AM, #13
Take care of this in game.,
The Heretic,
08-Jun-12 08:29 AM, #11
Nexus = true neutral,
DurNominator,
08-Jun-12 07:07 AM, #6
Irrelevant,
Graatch,
08-Jun-12 07:22 AM, #7
RE: Irrelevant,
Daevryn,
08-Jun-12 07:36 AM, #8
RE: Irrelevant,
orangepowered,
08-Jun-12 07:58 AM, #9
Wouldn't ragers be always my enemy if I see them hit my...,
DurNominator,
08-Jun-12 08:15 AM, #10
you missed half the argument, was that intentional?,
laxman,
08-Jun-12 08:37 AM, #12
That's simply not true.,
Graatch,
08-Jun-12 10:27 AM, #15
I guess I don't know what you are trying to say,
laxman,
08-Jun-12 11:12 AM, #16
RE: I guess I don't know what you are trying to say,
Graatch,
08-Jun-12 11:20 AM, #17
I get what he's saying, it's the law of increasing retu...,
Vladamir,
08-Jun-12 02:30 PM, #19
Everyone does.,
Tsunami,
08-Jun-12 02:45 PM, #20
Wrong.,
Alston,
08-Jun-12 07:24 PM, #23
Well,
Tsunami,
08-Jun-12 09:21 PM, #27
Quick addition,
Tsunami,
08-Jun-12 09:23 PM, #28
The Staffs very specific enforcment of it is thus...,
Alston,
08-Jun-12 10:33 PM, #30
That's fine by me,
Tsunami,
09-Jun-12 12:28 AM, #31
I personally think it's the opposite.,
Alston,
09-Jun-12 09:04 AM, #38
RE: The Staffs very specific enforcment of it is thus.....,
Daevryn,
09-Jun-12 11:12 AM, #43
I understand the first half, the second half is just du...,
Alston,
09-Jun-12 02:07 PM, #49
RE: I understand the first half, the second half is jus...,
Daevryn,
09-Jun-12 06:30 PM, #54
It's the soldier in me that keeps this festering.,
Alston,
09-Jun-12 06:52 PM, #55
Possible solution, if you want to try it.,
Akresius,
09-Jun-12 08:13 PM, #56
Do you have any idea how broad my paint brush is?,
Alston,
10-Jun-12 07:44 AM, #59
as Celebrimbor, I had the Marans take the key a few tim...,
Vladamir,
10-Jun-12 04:28 AM, #58
RE: I get what he's saying, it's the law of increasing ...,
Elerosse,
08-Jun-12 07:42 PM, #24
RE: That's simply not true.,
Daevryn,
09-Jun-12 06:56 AM, #35
Which doesn't forgive attrocity. n/t,
Alston,
11-Jun-12 06:51 PM, #94
You dont seem to appreciate,
Artificial,
11-Jun-12 07:40 PM, #95
RE: Irrelevant,
Elerosse,
08-Jun-12 07:53 PM, #25
I'm starting an Occupy Pro Movement...,
Welverin,
08-Jun-12 05:51 AM, #4
I thought your post would be,
Artificial,
08-Jun-12 07:00 AM, #5
RE: I'm starting an Occupy Nexun movement.,
orangepowered,
07-Jun-12 11:57 PM, #3
RE: I'm starting an Occupy Nexun movement.,
Daevryn,
07-Jun-12 08:08 PM, #1
Alright. I wasn't sure how you felt about it. I won't b...,
Alston,
07-Jun-12 09:00 PM, #2
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