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DurNominatorSat 09-Jun-12 11:31 AM
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#45714, "Neutral ragers and outlanders frequently hunt goodies."


          

How do you treat them when they do that? Just treat Nexus the same way.

Also, Nexus going all out against cabals other than Battle is fairly rare. If one side isn't dominating heavily, Nexus is not allowed to take their item. During the time I played Gnuff, I remember only one case when Balance tipped so badly that I'd even consider taking a cabal item*. That is hardly going all out against other cabals.

*Battle is excluded from this statement.

As for what comes to taking your vengeance, it is a dish best served cold. Try doing this:

-Ask a Nexus guy about the state of Balance. The fear of you turning hostile when darkness holds sway over balance is a good incentive for the Nexan to answer truthfully.

-If Light is holding sway over Balance, ask Nexus guy to promise you that he won't kill any Lightwalkers because of the current state of the Balance.

-If the Nexus guy refuses, you have a short-term reason to kill him while Light holds sway over Balance.

-The Nexus guy you attack must be someone who has killed or repeatedly attacked a Lightwalker before. Your character must know of these events IC.

The reason for you to attack the Nexus guy is simply the valid concern regarding the safety of Lightwalkers. It is a regretful event, you don't really want to kill a neutral guy, but you lash out in order to protect the Light. When the Light no longer tips the Balance, you cease hunting the Nexan, since he is no longer a threat to Light at that moment. I think you can avoid the boot if there are enough valid concerns for the well-being of the Lightwalkers.

Striking the Nexan later, when darkness holds sway and he is on your side is not acceptable and might earn you that boot. Also, inquiring about the Balance often will also allow you to be wary when the Light is holding sway and Nexans are potentially aggressive towards you. Being nice to Nexans may also make them a bit light-leaning and less aggressive towards goodies when Light is slightly tipping the Balance, just because they don't want to upset you as their goodly friend.

  

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HOT Locked TopicI'm starting an Occupy Nexun movement. [View all] , Alston, Thu 07-Jun-12 07:51 PM
Reply The problem, Graatch, 12-Jun-12 10:54 AM, #114
Reply RE: The problem, Daevryn, 12-Jun-12 10:56 AM, #115
     Reply The real problem is Pro and Graatch, Tac, 12-Jun-12 11:02 AM, #116
     Reply RE: The problem, Graatch, 12-Jun-12 11:03 AM, #117
          Reply RE: The problem, Daevryn, 12-Jun-12 11:05 AM, #118
               Reply RE: The problem, Graatch, 12-Jun-12 11:13 AM, #120
               Reply RE: The problem, Daevryn, 12-Jun-12 11:20 AM, #122
                    Reply RE: The problem, Graatch, 12-Jun-12 11:23 AM, #123
               Reply Maaaaaan. Are you serious? Did you just say that after ..., Alston, 12-Jun-12 11:18 AM, #121
Reply Couple points, Valkenar, 10-Jun-12 09:28 PM, #66
Reply RE: Couple points, Graatch, 10-Jun-12 10:14 PM, #67
Reply RE: Couple points, Rayihn, 11-Jun-12 06:05 AM, #68
     Reply You told my Paladin to talk to and forgive them. , Alston, 11-Jun-12 07:47 AM, #69
     Reply Case by case basis, Rayihn, 11-Jun-12 08:37 AM, #72
     Reply RE: Couple points, Graatch, 11-Jun-12 09:43 AM, #73
          Reply RE: Couple points, Rayihn, 11-Jun-12 10:40 AM, #76
          Reply RE: Couple points, Graatch, 11-Jun-12 01:38 PM, #80
               Reply RE: Couple points, lasentia, 11-Jun-12 02:13 PM, #81
               Reply They should be killed on sight., Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:34 PM, #91
               Reply RE: Couple points, Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 03:15 PM, #82
               Reply Because Nexus is Chaotic Evil. n/t, Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:28 PM, #87
                    Reply RE: Because Nexus is Chaotic Evil. n/t, Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 06:33 PM, #90
                         Reply Okay. Not to troll. But can you explain how they aren't..., Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:39 PM, #93
                              Reply Do you listen to yourself?, laxman, 11-Jun-12 08:29 PM, #96
                              Reply RE: Okay. Not to troll. But can you explain how they ar..., Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 09:10 PM, #97
                                   Reply To use the P and G point, Artificial, 11-Jun-12 09:17 PM, #98
                                   Reply Speaking of retards,,,,, Alston, 11-Jun-12 09:23 PM, #99
                                   Reply For you and laxman above., Alston, 11-Jun-12 09:39 PM, #100
                                        Reply RE: For you and laxman above., Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 09:43 PM, #101
                                        Reply Let me be helpful., Scrimbul, 11-Jun-12 10:32 PM, #102
                                        Reply RE: Let me be helpful., Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 10:40 PM, #103
                                        Reply That's just it. It should be., Alston, 11-Jun-12 10:47 PM, #104
                                             Reply Fortress can better influence neutrals towards goodly b..., DurNominator, 12-Jun-12 01:05 AM, #105
                                                  Reply You can't unrape someone, or unkill them., Alston, 12-Jun-12 07:47 AM, #108
                                                       Reply puhg said it below, you are thinking like a neutral or ..., laxman, 12-Jun-12 08:59 AM, #111
                                                            Reply How do you forgive someone for killing someone else? Yo..., Alston, 12-Jun-12 09:43 AM, #112
                                                                 Reply in cf people die and come back, its not as big a deal a..., laxman, 12-Jun-12 10:31 AM, #113
                                                                 Reply All your arguments are rooted in OOC mechanics. n/t, Alston, 12-Jun-12 11:12 AM, #119
                                        Reply Your view of "good align" seems far more similar to a n..., Puhguly, 12-Jun-12 05:17 AM, #107
                                             Reply You're opinion seems to be rooted in moral bankruptcy., Alston, 12-Jun-12 07:58 AM, #109
               Reply You are dumb, laxman, 11-Jun-12 04:23 PM, #83
                    Reply Yeah, you pretty much misunderstand what he's saying. Y..., Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:33 PM, #89
          Reply Was that with your elf invoker?, TMNS, 11-Jun-12 04:37 PM, #85
Reply I'm not missing anything. I said exactly that., Alston, 11-Jun-12 07:55 AM, #70
     Reply RE: I'm not missing anything. I said exactly that., DurNominator, 11-Jun-12 08:31 AM, #71
          Reply Wait a minute., Alston, 11-Jun-12 10:16 AM, #74
               Reply RE: Wait a minute., Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 10:37 AM, #75
               Reply FYI... I think Fortress would be raiding about everyone..., Alston, 11-Jun-12 12:18 PM, #77
                    Reply There are evil tribs, and neutral ones doing evil thing..., lasentia, 11-Jun-12 01:15 PM, #78
                         Reply I can't believe I have to spell this out., Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:31 PM, #88
                              Reply RE: I can't believe I have to spell this out., lasentia, 12-Jun-12 08:48 AM, #110
               Reply It's like this., DurNominator, 12-Jun-12 04:33 AM, #106
Reply Alas, the majority and imms disagree with you. And tyra..., Batman (Anonymous), 09-Jun-12 06:30 AM, #34
Reply Would all of the people who hate on Nexus please name t..., Puhguly, 08-Jun-12 04:38 PM, #21
Reply This kills me., Alston, 08-Jun-12 07:17 PM, #22
Reply The reason I bring it up is this, Puhguly, 08-Jun-12 08:15 PM, #26
     Reply Yes I can. God that's a stupid argument., Alston, 08-Jun-12 10:07 PM, #29
     Reply You don't even understand neutrality properly., DurNominator, 09-Jun-12 05:42 AM, #33
          Reply Of course I do. And I don't think Nexun is the only int..., Alston, 09-Jun-12 08:52 AM, #37
               Reply I don't remember any AD&D class required to be lawful., Homard, 09-Jun-12 09:07 AM, #39
               Reply I meant Monks., Alston, 09-Jun-12 10:49 AM, #41
                    Reply Yep, Tsunami, 09-Jun-12 10:57 AM, #42
                    Reply They could never be Lawful Good. Because you can't sudd..., Alston, 09-Jun-12 11:41 AM, #46
                         Reply You just kind of said that Maran cant be good with that..., Puhguly, 09-Jun-12 12:52 PM, #48
                         Reply Maran want genocide vs dark-elf nt, Tsunami, 09-Jun-12 03:27 PM, #50
                              Reply Yep. Where's the disconnect here? But to be more clear...., Alston, 09-Jun-12 04:12 PM, #51
                                   Reply So..., Tsunami, 09-Jun-12 04:31 PM, #52
                                        Reply First of all I strayed when I agreed with your genocide..., Alston, 09-Jun-12 04:58 PM, #53
                                             Reply RE: First of all I strayed when I agreed with your geno..., Tsunami, 09-Jun-12 08:38 PM, #57
                                                  Reply My beef with Nexus is how we are forced to accept them., Alston, 10-Jun-12 08:33 AM, #60
                                                       Reply Play something other than Fortress, Malakhi, 10-Jun-12 10:31 AM, #61
                                                       Reply I have followed through on my threats. Thank you very m..., Alston, 10-Jun-12 11:22 AM, #62
                                                            Reply No, you haven't., Malakhi, 11-Jun-12 12:53 PM, #79
                                                            Reply n/t, Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:40 PM, #92
                                                       Reply You are forced to accept neutrals of Battle and Outland..., DurNominator, 10-Jun-12 11:50 AM, #63
                                                            Reply They should. And I do on an indiviual basis., Alston, 10-Jun-12 11:54 AM, #64
                                                                 Reply You're unnecessarily limiting yourself., Homard, 10-Jun-12 12:45 PM, #65
                    Reply Thanks. Bringing it all back. n/t, Homard, 09-Jun-12 11:16 AM, #44
               Reply Neutral ragers and outlanders frequently hunt goodies., DurNominator, 09-Jun-12 11:31 AM #45
                    Reply I think Ragers should be enemies of the Fortress too., Alston, 09-Jun-12 11:44 AM, #47
     Reply Seconded, DurNominator, 09-Jun-12 05:40 AM, #32
          Reply Thirded, lasentia, 09-Jun-12 09:26 AM, #40
Reply I've had several, and I still loathe the cabal. , Vladamir, 09-Jun-12 07:09 AM, #36
Reply I've played several Nexuns., TMNS, 11-Jun-12 04:31 PM, #84
     Reply RE: I've played several Nexuns., Graatch, 11-Jun-12 05:54 PM, #86
Reply Everyone already has their minds made up. There's no co..., Treebeard, 08-Jun-12 12:16 PM, #18
Reply Re: Nexun = Chaotic evil., Shapa, 08-Jun-12 08:58 AM, #14
Reply Am I the only one..., Tac, 08-Jun-12 08:48 AM, #13
Reply Take care of this in game., The Heretic, 08-Jun-12 08:29 AM, #11
Reply Nexus = true neutral, DurNominator, 08-Jun-12 07:07 AM, #6
Reply Irrelevant, Graatch, 08-Jun-12 07:22 AM, #7
     Reply RE: Irrelevant, Daevryn, 08-Jun-12 07:36 AM, #8
     Reply RE: Irrelevant, orangepowered, 08-Jun-12 07:58 AM, #9
     Reply Wouldn't ragers be always my enemy if I see them hit my..., DurNominator, 08-Jun-12 08:15 AM, #10
     Reply you missed half the argument, was that intentional?, laxman, 08-Jun-12 08:37 AM, #12
     Reply That's simply not true., Graatch, 08-Jun-12 10:27 AM, #15
          Reply I guess I don't know what you are trying to say, laxman, 08-Jun-12 11:12 AM, #16
          Reply RE: I guess I don't know what you are trying to say, Graatch, 08-Jun-12 11:20 AM, #17
          Reply I get what he's saying, it's the law of increasing retu..., Vladamir, 08-Jun-12 02:30 PM, #19
               Reply Everyone does., Tsunami, 08-Jun-12 02:45 PM, #20
               Reply Wrong., Alston, 08-Jun-12 07:24 PM, #23
                    Reply Well, Tsunami, 08-Jun-12 09:21 PM, #27
                         Reply Quick addition, Tsunami, 08-Jun-12 09:23 PM, #28
                              Reply The Staffs very specific enforcment of it is thus..., Alston, 08-Jun-12 10:33 PM, #30
                                   Reply That's fine by me, Tsunami, 09-Jun-12 12:28 AM, #31
                                   Reply I personally think it's the opposite., Alston, 09-Jun-12 09:04 AM, #38
                                   Reply RE: The Staffs very specific enforcment of it is thus....., Daevryn, 09-Jun-12 11:12 AM, #43
                                        Reply I understand the first half, the second half is just du..., Alston, 09-Jun-12 02:07 PM, #49
                                             Reply RE: I understand the first half, the second half is jus..., Daevryn, 09-Jun-12 06:30 PM, #54
                                                  Reply It's the soldier in me that keeps this festering., Alston, 09-Jun-12 06:52 PM, #55
                                                  Reply Possible solution, if you want to try it., Akresius, 09-Jun-12 08:13 PM, #56
                                                       Reply Do you have any idea how broad my paint brush is?, Alston, 10-Jun-12 07:44 AM, #59
                                                  Reply as Celebrimbor, I had the Marans take the key a few tim..., Vladamir, 10-Jun-12 04:28 AM, #58
               Reply RE: I get what he's saying, it's the law of increasing ..., Elerosse, 08-Jun-12 07:42 PM, #24
          Reply RE: That's simply not true., Daevryn, 09-Jun-12 06:56 AM, #35
               Reply Which doesn't forgive attrocity. n/t, Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:51 PM, #94
                    Reply You dont seem to appreciate, Artificial, 11-Jun-12 07:40 PM, #95
     Reply RE: Irrelevant, Elerosse, 08-Jun-12 07:53 PM, #25
Reply I'm starting an Occupy Pro Movement..., Welverin, 08-Jun-12 05:51 AM, #4
Reply I thought your post would be, Artificial, 08-Jun-12 07:00 AM, #5
Reply RE: I'm starting an Occupy Nexun movement., orangepowered, 07-Jun-12 11:57 PM, #3
Reply RE: I'm starting an Occupy Nexun movement., Daevryn, 07-Jun-12 08:08 PM, #1
     Reply Alright. I wasn't sure how you felt about it. I won't b..., Alston, 07-Jun-12 09:00 PM, #2
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