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ValkenarWed 20-Jul-11 10:55 PM
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#39107, "Bunch of opinions"


          

>Another MUD I once played had a cabal specifically for newbies
>and those who want to help them. It believe it did not permit
>evil players, but allowed good and neutrals.

Herald is kinda like this in some ways. It's not specifically for newbies, but you kinda can't fail to get in (within reason) and it's just kind of a kick back and relax thing.

That said, I really don't think being in a cabal helps you die less in CF. What it does give you is a bunch of people to give you advice if they're in the mood. I'd be in favor of an easy in easy out model, except that then you'll *really* be making people mad and driving them away. A newbie who gets kicked out of a cabal for not understanding some cabal rule (what, you mean anti-paladins count as mages?) is going to be more annoyed than if he never got in.

If anything were to be done along these lines, it would be just adding an "explorer" path to the heralds that gives some kind of pve powers. Not sure what those would be. Certainly immunity to bleed or poison death is too strong. Anti-gang code won't help newbies that much because they're dieing to solo killers just as much.

Good explorer/newbie powers are things like:
For exploring:
Confounding - Mobs are slow to attack when chasing
Sensitive - You can see if mobs are aggro on scan
Lifeline - word of recall from cursed area (not in affects) every 24 hours with 8-round pre-lag

For PK:
Dangersense - as exists
Outclassed - If your opponent reduces your health by 80% and you reduce his by less than 20% from first hit until up to 5 ticks, all damage results in lag cleared and wimpy firing.
Tough - Leader con

Outclassed is really too overpowered in some situations and useless in others, but I kind of like it as way of throwing a bone to newbies who just get completely steamrolled. Basically it's an attempt to say that if the fight isn't even close to even, the wimpy guy gets a chance to escape.





  

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HOT Topic(Alleged) newbie meltdown [View all] , Veteran (Anonymous), Wed 20-Jul-11 10:12 PM
Reply Great idea, Newbie (Anonymous), 21-Jul-11 10:39 PM, #23
Reply Heralds, Rayihn, 21-Jul-11 11:33 AM, #12
Reply See below? n/t, Stunna, 21-Jul-11 11:48 AM, #13
Reply RE: See below? n/t, Tarleton, 21-Jul-11 11:42 PM, #24
     Reply Since Herald powers are not pk oriented, Rade, 28-Jul-11 08:25 AM, #25
     Reply I am not opposed to this, except that..., Splntrd, 28-Jul-11 11:50 AM, #26
     Reply Internet anonymity got the better of me., Stunna, 28-Jul-11 02:13 PM, #27
Reply not really, laxman, 21-Jul-11 11:52 AM, #14
Reply RE: not really, Splntrd, 21-Jul-11 12:26 PM, #16
     Reply RE: not really, laxman, 21-Jul-11 12:33 PM, #18
          Reply RE: not really, Splntrd, 21-Jul-11 01:46 PM, #20
Reply I actually think this is a great idea, Treebeard, 21-Jul-11 12:24 PM, #15
Reply GREAT IDEA!, Stunna, 21-Jul-11 11:06 AM, #11
Reply passing an interview = easy, finding someone with induc..., laxman, 21-Jul-11 06:30 AM, #6
Reply Assuming it was real, I think this fails to address the..., Homard, 21-Jul-11 06:12 AM, #5
Reply RE: Assuming it was real, I think this fails to address..., dalneko, 21-Jul-11 08:20 AM, #7
Reply RE: Assuming it was real, I think this fails to address..., Isildur, 21-Jul-11 11:06 AM, #10
     Reply Isildur nailed it., Homard, 21-Jul-11 09:29 PM, #21
     Reply Right. A MUD does not simulate RL. It's more like a fan..., Murphy, 21-Jul-11 09:47 PM, #22
Reply RE: Assuming it was real, I think this fails to address..., Daevryn, 21-Jul-11 08:50 AM, #8
     Reply I actually answered yes to the new to CF box on my curr..., Vortex Magus, 21-Jul-11 09:19 AM, #9
     Reply Mechanical advantage, Artificial, 21-Jul-11 12:26 PM, #17
          Reply RE: Mechanical advantage, Isildur, 21-Jul-11 01:03 PM, #19
Reply RE: (Alleged) newbie meltdown, Sivyh (Anonymous), 20-Jul-11 11:50 PM, #3
Reply Fact, Maravon (Anonymous), 20-Jul-11 11:58 PM, #
Reply Fact, Maravon (Anonymous), 20-Jul-11 11:58 PM, #4
Reply For the record. My first character in CF never joined a..., dalneko, 20-Jul-11 11:45 PM, #2
Reply Bunch of opinions, Valkenar, 20-Jul-11 10:55 PM #1
     Reply RE: Bunch of opinions, Wayward Knight, 29-Jul-11 12:49 PM, #28
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