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SplntrdTue 29-Jun-10 02:19 PM
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#33661, "RE: I don't recall breaking any rules."


          

"You are either good, or you are not."

That's not what I said, and I don't think it backs up your actions.

You're either on the staff, or you are not. Being "good" is completely subjective; anyone can think they're good enough to be a judge. That's an ambiguity and dissolves the authority of the people are actually, unequivocally in charge of these kinds of things.

Real world application: We have police (Imm staff), and we have civilians (players). Yes, there's SOME grey area in the real world that allows for positions like bounty hunters. But that grey area doesn't exist in CF. There's no demarcation, no structure, no precedence, absolutely nothing to support the grey area you think you belong in (which you're defining as "good enough to judge everyone else and try to help the staff enforce rules but not on the staff").

When a player tries to "take the law into his own hands" like you do, it undermines authority. There are real good reasons why the line between Staff and Player should be about as crisp and clean as possible. When the line gets blurry, and authority is diluted, it gets harder to run, harder for people to have fun, and ultimately chafes at the game experience. And when you, the player, are trying to enforce rules, you're not contributing to other player's experiences, and you yourself aren't having fun.

All-in-all, it's the opposite of productive. I understand you're trying to help, your heart is in the right place, etc. But you, as a player (being NOT a staff member) should try to focus more on your role as a player. Which is to actually play the game. You will be much more helpful to the game and to everyone playing it and to yourself if you do.

If you find you absolutely can't back down from your desire to be an enforcer or in a position of authority of some kind, you should be making it your goal to actually obtain a position of authority within the system (as in, get on the staff). Which, by the way, the best way to get on the staff is to play your role as a player well.

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HOT Locked TopicI deleted over this. I'm ####ing pissed. [View all] , Pro, Fri 25-Jun-10 06:55 AM
Reply Time to lock this up and move on? n/t, Pro, 29-Jun-10 07:53 PM, #100
Reply You sure? You done? n/t, Lhydia, 29-Jun-10 09:39 PM, #101
Reply Dear Santa Zulgh..., Gabe, 28-Jun-10 10:58 PM, #97
Reply Because Gabe is a BAMF, this should be considered. nt, sleepy, 29-Jun-10 12:58 AM, #98
Reply Ignore command, Tsunami, 26-Jun-10 02:08 PM, #56
Reply Completely OOC., Pro, 26-Jun-10 02:54 PM, #59
     Reply RE: Completely OOC., Tsunami, 26-Jun-10 03:01 PM, #60
     Reply He's referencing a log on Dio, sleepy, 26-Jun-10 03:30 PM, #62
          Reply Oh yeah., Pro, 26-Jun-10 04:23 PM, #66
               Reply So..., Tsunami, 26-Jun-10 04:42 PM, #68
                    Reply So.., Pro, 26-Jun-10 04:52 PM, #69
                         Reply You're really, really dumb.~, blackbird, 26-Jun-10 10:02 PM, #75
                         Reply While you're busy being a vigilante..., Splntrd, 26-Jun-10 11:45 PM, #78
                              Reply I don't recall breaking any rules., Pro, 27-Jun-10 11:05 PM, #92
                                   Reply RE: I don't recall breaking any rules., Eskelian, 28-Jun-10 02:38 AM, #95
                                   Reply RE: I don't recall breaking any rules., Splntrd, 29-Jun-10 02:19 PM #99
Reply Please move this to another board. st, Kalageadon, 26-Jun-10 08:24 AM, #51
Reply Being the one that dealt with this..., Nnaeshuk, 25-Jun-10 12:31 PM, #43
Reply I'm sitting here with the source of all my angst., Pro, 25-Jun-10 01:48 PM, #45
Reply In all seriousness, incognito, 26-Jun-10 08:18 AM, #50
     Reply Cosign n/t, Dervish, 26-Jun-10 09:56 AM, #52
     Reply RE: In all seriousness, Lhydia, 26-Jun-10 10:17 AM, #53
     Reply RE: In all seriousness, incognito, 26-Jun-10 03:38 PM, #65
          Reply Hahaha. n/t, Lhydia, 26-Jun-10 05:29 PM, #70
     Reply Conversely, Malakhi, 26-Jun-10 12:34 PM, #54
     Reply In my strictest goodie characters.., Java, 26-Jun-10 12:43 PM, #55
     Reply Shackling the benevolent, Swordsosaurus, 26-Jun-10 02:32 PM, #57
     Reply Well, it disgusted me when I played a paladin, incognito, 26-Jun-10 03:37 PM, #64
     Reply Oh I agree with you.., Java, 26-Jun-10 08:33 PM, #72
     Reply Dragons are sentient beings, Nightgaunt_, 27-Jun-10 04:11 PM, #85
          Reply Hmm.., Java, 27-Jun-10 06:37 PM, #86
          Reply I have always, always.., Swordsosaurus, 27-Jun-10 06:53 PM, #88
               Reply That makes me think of Nep's alternate, Mekantos, 27-Jun-10 09:13 PM, #89
               Reply Ah, you got me, Swordsosaurus, 27-Jun-10 10:53 PM, #91
               Reply Yup:, Daevryn, 28-Jun-10 12:45 AM, #94
               Reply ####ing Tolkien!, Pro, 27-Jun-10 11:07 PM, #93
          Reply Dragons have feelings too!, Mekantos, 27-Jun-10 06:41 PM, #87
               Reply Aww, you shouldn't have taken that Dragon's newbie brea..., DurNominator, 28-Jun-10 05:51 PM, #96
     Reply Then you sir, are neutral., Pro, 26-Jun-10 02:48 PM, #58
     Reply That's perfectly acceptable "Good" roleplay., Java, 26-Jun-10 03:09 PM, #61
     Reply This guy says he's smart?, Pro, 26-Jun-10 04:07 PM, #67
     Reply You're retarded. NT, TMNS, 26-Jun-10 10:16 PM, #76
     Reply You seem to have misinterpreted me, incognito, 26-Jun-10 03:35 PM, #63
          Reply No, I understood you., Malakhi, 26-Jun-10 09:41 PM, #74
               Reply See, I STRONGLY disagree with this.., Java, 26-Jun-10 10:19 PM, #77
               Reply RE: See, I STRONGLY disagree with this.., Malakhi, 27-Jun-10 12:44 AM, #81
               Reply RE: No, I understood you., Isildur, 27-Jun-10 12:42 AM, #80
               Reply RE: No, I understood you., Malakhi, 27-Jun-10 01:18 AM, #82
               Reply That surprises me a bit, incognito, 27-Jun-10 03:42 AM, #83
     Reply I'm kind of in agreement here, sickening as it is, Runaktla, 26-Jun-10 08:15 PM, #71
          Reply Consider, you contradict yourself in you attempt to sla..., Pro, 26-Jun-10 08:46 PM, #73
               Reply RE: Consider, you contradict yourself in you attempt to..., Runaktla, 27-Jun-10 12:10 AM, #79
Reply And how ABOUT those ultra-mature prays of yours., Java, 25-Jun-10 10:47 AM, #37
Reply Hi Pro. I'm with you., Marin, 25-Jun-10 10:28 AM, #35
Reply This is retarded., Java, 25-Jun-10 10:34 AM, #36
Reply Those prayers were Skraag., Pro, 25-Jun-10 11:36 AM, #40
Reply You should seek therapy for your RP OCD. n/t, Lhydia, 25-Jun-10 08:01 AM, #29
Reply RE: I deleted over this. I'm ####ing pissed., sorlag (Anonymous), 25-Jun-10 07:11 AM, #28
Reply You're actively LOOKING for stuff to be mad about., Java, 25-Jun-10 12:22 AM, #27
Reply This., Twist, 25-Jun-10 11:34 AM, #39
     Reply I'm willing to admit that,, Pro, 25-Jun-10 11:53 AM, #41
          Reply Buddy, Mekantos, 25-Jun-10 11:59 AM, #42
               Reply 40yo SWM, Pro, 25-Jun-10 01:30 PM, #44
                    Reply 45lbs in 2 to 3 months?, Mekantos, 25-Jun-10 01:59 PM, #46
                         Reply Since I split with my partner, Pro, 25-Jun-10 03:17 PM, #47
                              Reply So you 'lost' your 'partner' and stopped working out yo..., Lhydia, 25-Jun-10 03:14 PM, #48
Reply I'm not sure what the deal is here..., colospgsbryan, 25-Jun-10 03:50 AM, #24
Reply RE: I'm not sure what the deal is here..., Eskelian, 25-Jun-10 06:38 AM, #25
Reply Is it just me?, Lokain, 25-Jun-10 03:49 AM, #23
Reply Considering the key not being there is a BUG.(ooc mecha..., Jhyrbian, 25-Jun-10 01:25 AM, #14
Reply RE: Considering the key not being there is a BUG.(ooc m..., Pro, 25-Jun-10 02:18 AM, #19
Reply For argument's sake..., Twist, 25-Jun-10 10:58 AM, #38
Reply RE: I deleted over this. I'm ####ing pissed., Isildur, 25-Jun-10 12:16 AM, #3
Reply Call it what you want., Pro, 25-Jun-10 12:38 AM, #8
     Reply Where did you see them get rewarded?, Java, 25-Jun-10 12:46 AM, #9
     Reply RE: Call it what you want., Isildur, 25-Jun-10 01:36 AM, #15
          Reply RE: Call it what you want., Pro, 25-Jun-10 01:55 AM, #17
               Reply No wonder you still suck at this game., Jhyrbian, 25-Jun-10 02:35 AM, #26
               Reply because I stay in role and play in align and, Pro, 25-Jun-10 03:06 AM, #21
                    Reply You should start your own mud, with your own rules., Jhyrbian, 25-Jun-10 03:27 AM, #22
               Reply RE: Call it what you want., Isildur, 25-Jun-10 08:38 AM, #30
                    Reply Don't forget.., Java, 25-Jun-10 09:38 AM, #31
                    Reply First of all, you've used the word Tattle at least 4 ti..., Pro, 25-Jun-10 10:15 AM, #33
                         Reply You're delusional., TMNS, 25-Jun-10 10:27 AM, #34
Reply You got to learn at some point., wareagle, 25-Jun-10 12:02 AM, #2
Reply Here's the deal., Pro, 25-Jun-10 12:28 AM, #4
Reply And you getting pissed off about it WAS IC? nt, Java, 25-Jun-10 12:25 AM, #5
Reply I get it, I really do., wareagle, 25-Jun-10 12:29 AM, #6
     Reply How often do I unload like this?, Pro, 25-Jun-10 12:32 AM, #7
          Reply You are always complaining about something. NT, TMNS, 25-Jun-10 12:48 AM, #10
          Reply Umm constantly?, ORB, 25-Jun-10 01:09 AM, #13
               Reply RE: Umm constantly?, Pro, 25-Jun-10 01:49 AM, #16
                    Reply Dude...that's on a totally different level., sleepy, 25-Jun-10 02:00 AM, #18
                    Reply RE: Dude...that's on a totally different level., Pro, 25-Jun-10 02:55 AM, #20
                    Reply RE: Umm constantly?, ORB, 25-Jun-10 09:52 AM, #32
                    Reply I don't follow people over cliffs., Pro, 25-Jun-10 06:11 PM, #49
                    Reply I thought you said. . ., dwimmerling, 27-Jun-10 03:19 PM, #84
                         Reply Read what you wrote, look inside yourself and say..., Pro, 27-Jun-10 10:30 PM, #90
Reply On a side note..., Pro, 25-Jun-10 12:50 AM, #11
     Reply There is no rule that says goodies can't kill neutrals., TMNS, 25-Jun-10 12:56 AM, #12
Reply FWIW, I've seen many good-aligned chars attack the guar..., sleepy, 24-Jun-10 11:29 PM, #1
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