Malakhi | Sat 26-Jun-10 09:41 PM |
Member since 12th Dec 2009
367 posts
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#33617, "No, I understood you."
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I just happen to disagree and think it's OK to kill a sentient neutral mob for gold/gear.
I'm sympathetic to your argument that a good person wouldn't kill someone unless their own life was in danger - but this is the game Carrionfields, not real life in 2010. In the game, Carrionfields, my POV is based on both game mechanics and RP reasons.
Game mechanics wise, I think it is a no brainer that good aligns should be able to kill neutral aligns. Players should not have to play on Pro's level of PK suckiness if they want to play a good align. Even you, who've had several PK successful evil characters, had a 5-13 PK record (or something like that) with the last good align paladin you played (that I'm aware of). I wouldn't be happy handcuffing myself to a playstyles that results in a 5-13 PK record. That's just not entertaining to me. Again, I wouldn't play a good align given the current game mechanics if I couldn't kill a sentient neutral NPC.
RP wise, my rationale is simply that these mobs are neutral, not good. These mobs are neutral, not "innocent." In the Carrionfields worlds, mobs and players are their alignement for a reason. There's a reason why you have the red aura and not the gold aura, even if you are a goblin baby. There's a reason you have no aura and not a gold aura, even if you're the sentient dragon guarding the Jade Vaults. There's nothing in the good align helpfile that states you should not kill neutrals - it states you should avoid harming "innocent bystanders." IMO, an "innocent bystander" has a Gold Aura. Neutrals, without that aura, are not "innocent." Again, there's a reason why they're Neutral and not Good.
Anyway, I could go on and on, but really this is a rehash of Valg's thread re: Good Alignment handicaps.
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I deleted over this. I'm ####ing pissed.
[View all] , Pro, Fri 25-Jun-10 06:55 AM
Time to lock this up and move on? n/t,
Pro,
29-Jun-10 07:53 PM, #100
You sure? You done? n/t,
Lhydia,
29-Jun-10 09:39 PM, #101
Dear Santa Zulgh...,
Gabe,
28-Jun-10 10:58 PM, #97
Because Gabe is a BAMF, this should be considered. nt,
sleepy,
29-Jun-10 12:58 AM, #98
Ignore command,
Tsunami,
26-Jun-10 02:08 PM, #56
Completely OOC.,
Pro,
26-Jun-10 02:54 PM, #59
RE: Completely OOC.,
Tsunami,
26-Jun-10 03:01 PM, #60
He's referencing a log on Dio,
sleepy,
26-Jun-10 03:30 PM, #62
Oh yeah.,
Pro,
26-Jun-10 04:23 PM, #66
So...,
Tsunami,
26-Jun-10 04:42 PM, #68
So..,
Pro,
26-Jun-10 04:52 PM, #69
You're really, really dumb.~,
blackbird,
26-Jun-10 10:02 PM, #75
While you're busy being a vigilante...,
Splntrd,
26-Jun-10 11:45 PM, #78
I don't recall breaking any rules.,
Pro,
27-Jun-10 11:05 PM, #92
RE: I don't recall breaking any rules.,
Eskelian,
28-Jun-10 02:38 AM, #95
RE: I don't recall breaking any rules.,
Splntrd,
29-Jun-10 02:19 PM, #99
Please move this to another board. st,
Kalageadon,
26-Jun-10 08:24 AM, #51
Being the one that dealt with this...,
Nnaeshuk,
25-Jun-10 12:31 PM, #43
I'm sitting here with the source of all my angst.,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 01:48 PM, #45
In all seriousness,
incognito,
26-Jun-10 08:18 AM, #50
Cosign n/t,
Dervish,
26-Jun-10 09:56 AM, #52
RE: In all seriousness,
Lhydia,
26-Jun-10 10:17 AM, #53
RE: In all seriousness,
incognito,
26-Jun-10 03:38 PM, #65
Hahaha. n/t,
Lhydia,
26-Jun-10 05:29 PM, #70
Conversely,
Malakhi,
26-Jun-10 12:34 PM, #54
In my strictest goodie characters..,
Java,
26-Jun-10 12:43 PM, #55
Shackling the benevolent,
Swordsosaurus,
26-Jun-10 02:32 PM, #57
Well, it disgusted me when I played a paladin,
incognito,
26-Jun-10 03:37 PM, #64
Oh I agree with you..,
Java,
26-Jun-10 08:33 PM, #72
Dragons are sentient beings,
Nightgaunt_,
27-Jun-10 04:11 PM, #85
Hmm..,
Java,
27-Jun-10 06:37 PM, #86
I have always, always..,
Swordsosaurus,
27-Jun-10 06:53 PM, #88
That makes me think of Nep's alternate,
Mekantos,
27-Jun-10 09:13 PM, #89
Ah, you got me,
Swordsosaurus,
27-Jun-10 10:53 PM, #91
Yup:,
Daevryn,
28-Jun-10 12:45 AM, #94
####ing Tolkien!,
Pro,
27-Jun-10 11:07 PM, #93
Dragons have feelings too!,
Mekantos,
27-Jun-10 06:41 PM, #87
Aww, you shouldn't have taken that Dragon's newbie brea...,
DurNominator,
28-Jun-10 05:51 PM, #96
Then you sir, are neutral.,
Pro,
26-Jun-10 02:48 PM, #58
That's perfectly acceptable "Good" roleplay.,
Java,
26-Jun-10 03:09 PM, #61
This guy says he's smart?,
Pro,
26-Jun-10 04:07 PM, #67
You're retarded. NT,
TMNS,
26-Jun-10 10:16 PM, #76
You seem to have misinterpreted me,
incognito,
26-Jun-10 03:35 PM, #63
No, I understood you.,
Malakhi,
26-Jun-10 09:41 PM #74
See, I STRONGLY disagree with this..,
Java,
26-Jun-10 10:19 PM, #77
RE: See, I STRONGLY disagree with this..,
Malakhi,
27-Jun-10 12:44 AM, #81
RE: No, I understood you.,
Isildur,
27-Jun-10 12:42 AM, #80
RE: No, I understood you.,
Malakhi,
27-Jun-10 01:18 AM, #82
That surprises me a bit,
incognito,
27-Jun-10 03:42 AM, #83
I'm kind of in agreement here, sickening as it is,
Runaktla,
26-Jun-10 08:15 PM, #71
Consider, you contradict yourself in you attempt to sla...,
Pro,
26-Jun-10 08:46 PM, #73
RE: Consider, you contradict yourself in you attempt to...,
Runaktla,
27-Jun-10 12:10 AM, #79
And how ABOUT those ultra-mature prays of yours.,
Java,
25-Jun-10 10:47 AM, #37
Hi Pro. I'm with you.,
Marin,
25-Jun-10 10:28 AM, #35
This is retarded.,
Java,
25-Jun-10 10:34 AM, #36
Those prayers were Skraag.,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 11:36 AM, #40
You should seek therapy for your RP OCD. n/t,
Lhydia,
25-Jun-10 08:01 AM, #29
RE: I deleted over this. I'm ####ing pissed.,
sorlag (Anonymous),
25-Jun-10 07:11 AM, #28
You're actively LOOKING for stuff to be mad about.,
Java,
25-Jun-10 12:22 AM, #27
This.,
Twist,
25-Jun-10 11:34 AM, #39
I'm willing to admit that,,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 11:53 AM, #41
Buddy,
Mekantos,
25-Jun-10 11:59 AM, #42
40yo SWM,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 01:30 PM, #44
45lbs in 2 to 3 months?,
Mekantos,
25-Jun-10 01:59 PM, #46
Since I split with my partner,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 03:17 PM, #47
So you 'lost' your 'partner' and stopped working out yo...,
Lhydia,
25-Jun-10 03:14 PM, #48
I'm not sure what the deal is here...,
colospgsbryan,
25-Jun-10 03:50 AM, #24
RE: I'm not sure what the deal is here...,
Eskelian,
25-Jun-10 06:38 AM, #25
Is it just me?,
Lokain,
25-Jun-10 03:49 AM, #23
Considering the key not being there is a BUG.(ooc mecha...,
Jhyrbian,
25-Jun-10 01:25 AM, #14
RE: Considering the key not being there is a BUG.(ooc m...,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 02:18 AM, #19
For argument's sake...,
Twist,
25-Jun-10 10:58 AM, #38
RE: I deleted over this. I'm ####ing pissed.,
Isildur,
25-Jun-10 12:16 AM, #3
Call it what you want.,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 12:38 AM, #8
Where did you see them get rewarded?,
Java,
25-Jun-10 12:46 AM, #9
RE: Call it what you want.,
Isildur,
25-Jun-10 01:36 AM, #15
RE: Call it what you want.,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 01:55 AM, #17
No wonder you still suck at this game.,
Jhyrbian,
25-Jun-10 02:35 AM, #26
because I stay in role and play in align and,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 03:06 AM, #21
You should start your own mud, with your own rules.,
Jhyrbian,
25-Jun-10 03:27 AM, #22
RE: Call it what you want.,
Isildur,
25-Jun-10 08:38 AM, #30
Don't forget..,
Java,
25-Jun-10 09:38 AM, #31
First of all, you've used the word Tattle at least 4 ti...,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 10:15 AM, #33
You're delusional.,
TMNS,
25-Jun-10 10:27 AM, #34
You got to learn at some point.,
wareagle,
25-Jun-10 12:02 AM, #2
Here's the deal.,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 12:28 AM, #4
And you getting pissed off about it WAS IC? nt,
Java,
25-Jun-10 12:25 AM, #5
I get it, I really do.,
wareagle,
25-Jun-10 12:29 AM, #6
How often do I unload like this?,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 12:32 AM, #7
You are always complaining about something. NT,
TMNS,
25-Jun-10 12:48 AM, #10
Umm constantly?,
ORB,
25-Jun-10 01:09 AM, #13
RE: Umm constantly?,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 01:49 AM, #16
Dude...that's on a totally different level.,
sleepy,
25-Jun-10 02:00 AM, #18
RE: Dude...that's on a totally different level.,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 02:55 AM, #20
RE: Umm constantly?,
ORB,
25-Jun-10 09:52 AM, #32
I don't follow people over cliffs.,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 06:11 PM, #49
I thought you said. . .,
dwimmerling,
27-Jun-10 03:19 PM, #84
Read what you wrote, look inside yourself and say...,
Pro,
27-Jun-10 10:30 PM, #90
On a side note...,
Pro,
25-Jun-10 12:50 AM, #11
There is no rule that says goodies can't kill neutrals.,
TMNS,
25-Jun-10 12:56 AM, #12
FWIW, I've seen many good-aligned chars attack the guar...,
sleepy,
24-Jun-10 11:29 PM, #1
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