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IsildurMon 15-Jun-09 02:44 PM
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>Necro/ap are offensive classes. They may kill people but they
>also easier to die with.

The fact that they're fragile isn't that relevant considering they most memorable examples are played by vets for whom the fragility isn't as much of an issue.

With respect to "getting lots of kills" necros and anti-paladins trump paladins. Also remember that paladins are often bound by role-play to put themselves in situations that are so crappy they surpass even the paladin class's built-in hard-to-kill-ness. Necros and anti-paladins have that problem much less frequently, if ever.

>Plus marans have a special skill just against these two classes.

I was taking that into account when I gauged the deathfulness of necro/a-p vs. paladin. At any given time there are maybe 10 marans. There are more goodies than that. And necros and anti-paladins both get a skill designed to negate eyes of flame.

>Emperor powers are give to the emperor only.

There is almost always an Emperor. One character, sure, but one character who's "juiced" compared to the competition. There's no goodie equivalent.

>The rest of Empire powers isn't that scary.

Warmaster > Maran leader.

High Priest Shaman > Maran leader shaman/paladin.

High Priest Healer > Acolyte leader healer (mostly due to vengeance).

Shadow is a tossup. Piercing gaze is really nice, but moreso if you're an Empire guy who has to worry about Outlanders.

Black sect can't be compared since it's limited to evil-only classes.

>Same for outlanders. Insect is cool, but they sit in camo
>anyway and do nothing with their powers.

In retrospect, Nightreaver powers don't really help my point since they're offset by a Sunwarden who has similar stuff.

>Scion is just a nosense broken cabal wich is bad for overall
>gameplay and should be removed (you may argue).

Be that as it may, it's only available to evils and its powers are arguably much more useful to an evil mage than maran powers are to a goodie mage.

  

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HOT TopicProgging equipment for the newbie goodies! [View all] , Abernyte, Sat 13-Jun-09 11:35 AM
Reply These have been around for YEARS, Stunna, 15-Jun-09 06:58 AM, #20
Reply RE: These have been around for YEARS, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 08:39 AM, #21
Reply maybe i'm wrong, but, Stunna, 15-Jun-09 09:15 AM, #22
     Reply RE: maybe i'm wrong, but, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 10:05 AM, #23
          Reply I guess if I was playing more mages they'd be more appe..., Stunna, 15-Jun-09 01:37 PM, #35
               Reply FWIW, I've never used them., Mekantos, 15-Jun-09 02:42 PM, #37
Reply Not bitching, Abernyte, 16-Jun-09 04:57 AM, #39
     Reply Stop whinin about whinin, whiner., Stunna, 16-Jun-09 12:24 PM, #40
     Reply My deal with these beads is:, Adhelard, 16-Jun-09 12:55 PM, #41
     Reply One thing here, Mekantos, 16-Jun-09 02:40 PM, #43
Reply No offense Abernyte..., Torak, 13-Jun-09 10:08 PM, #7
Reply None taken, not even from the 'You must be a newb comme..., Abernyte, 14-Jun-09 02:41 AM, #8
     Reply To be fair:, Daevryn, 14-Jun-09 01:57 PM, #10
          Reply RE: To be fair:, Isildur, 14-Jun-09 06:11 PM, #11
               Reply Actually, Dwoggurd, 14-Jun-09 07:33 PM, #12
                    Reply RE: Actually, Daevryn, 14-Jun-09 09:09 PM, #13
                    Reply How many goodies are in the top100 pkers?, TMNS, 14-Jun-09 09:19 PM, #14
                         Reply Current mortal top 40..., Zulghinlour, 14-Jun-09 09:23 PM, #15
                         Reply And how it is relevant to the subject?, Dwoggurd, 14-Jun-09 10:08 PM, #16
                              Reply RE: And how it is relevant to the subject?, Isildur, 14-Jun-09 10:23 PM, #17
                              Reply It is not because goodies suck, Dwoggurd, 14-Jun-09 10:44 PM, #18
                                   Reply RE: It is not because goodies suck, Valkenar, 15-Jun-09 10:35 AM, #24
                                   Reply So that is my point, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 11:23 AM, #26
                                        Reply What is your standard then?, Valkenar, 15-Jun-09 12:33 PM, #31
                                        Reply Not raw power, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 01:02 PM, #33
                                             Reply RE: Not raw power, Valkenar, 15-Jun-09 02:38 PM, #36
                                        Reply RE: So that is my point, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 12:44 PM, #32
                                             Reply yet again, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 01:08 PM, #34
                                                  Reply RE: yet again, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 02:44 PM #38
                                   Reply RE: It is not because goodies suck, Daevryn, 15-Jun-09 11:15 AM, #25
                                   Reply Goodie healers, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 11:38 AM, #28
                                        Reply RE: Goodie healers, Daevryn, 15-Jun-09 11:55 AM, #29
                                             Reply I may try, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 12:21 PM, #30
                                             Reply As one who played quite a bit Fortress chars, Greddarh, 17-Jun-09 09:19 AM, #44
                                   Reply RE: It is not because goodies suck, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 11:32 AM, #27
                              Reply Good post. nt., NMTW, 16-Jun-09 01:07 PM, #42
Reply RE: Progging equipment for the newbie goodies!, Isildur, 13-Jun-09 12:15 PM, #3
Reply RE: Progging equipment for the newbie goodies!, Isildur, 13-Jun-09 12:18 PM, #4
Reply Cosign., Daevryn, 13-Jun-09 01:07 PM, #5
     Reply Your post and Isildur's are facetious red herrings, fyi..., Scrimbul, 13-Jun-09 09:16 PM, #6
          Reply RE: Your post and Isildur's are facetious red herrings,..., Daevryn, 14-Jun-09 01:58 PM, #9
               Reply The combination of these two facts I think is important..., Straklaw, 15-Jun-09 12:50 AM, #19
Reply Paladin is an empowerment class too, Dwoggurd, 13-Jun-09 12:13 PM, #2
Reply Newbies are overpowered!, Quixotic, 13-Jun-09 11:52 AM, #1
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