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IsildurMon 15-Jun-09 11:32 AM
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#25209, "RE: It is not because goodies suck"


          

>Can you explain how, for example, a good arial dagger spec is
>weaker than an evil arial dagger spec (on the arena for
>example) or a good elf invoker vs a drow invoker (no cabal
>powers).

No I can't, because that's not what I'm claiming. Mechanics wise they're mostly identical.

My guess is that the staff have realized that without the "perks" to being good-aligned that nobody would play good-aligned characters, for all the reasons mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

As a side note, another reason (besides having fewer targets) that goodies don't get as many kills is that the targets they do have are typically of a higher average skill than the set of targets available to an evil character. So not only are there fewer people to kill, the set of people you can kill is going to consist of a higher-than-normal percentage of vets.

One other thought on the stats you posted:

Kostyan, Djabree and Khargurln managed to accumulate those goodie kill counts while also killing a ton of neutrals and evils. Had they decided to concentrate solely on killing goodies then I would expect their goodie kill counts to be slightly higher. Djabree, for instance, was focused on killing mages, then members of Empire and Scion, all of whom are evil.

Here's an expanded list with the top 15 for each alignment in terms of total PK wins, in order of total PK wins, with number of "opposite align" kills listed:

Evil:

Kostyan, 174
Djabree, 95
Blitzenturt, 223
Hunsobo, 241
Igbah, 173
Kharghurln, 183
Ravon, 158
Kjrorh, 112
Nreisshe, 122
Vens, 94
Kanaev, 122
Grunlath, 139
Dulmisa, 130
Cabdru, 112
Palmer, 75

High: 241, Low: 75, Median: 130

Macha, 109
Niheriva, 150
Alriac, 119
Malthalia, 70
Gryshilniar, 110
Hyzin, 121
Jeqo, 81
Brinton, 111
Mizfara, 103
Darascus, 95
Mhardat, 57
Obaznuk, 83
Lariya, 83
Adhelard, 83
Dungard, 79

High: 150, Low: 57, Median: 95

And, like I said, if those evil characters had been concentrating on killing only good-aligned opponents then their goodie kill totals would be even higher. (At the expense of their overall kill totals, of course.)

  

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HOT TopicProgging equipment for the newbie goodies! [View all] , Abernyte, Sat 13-Jun-09 11:35 AM
Reply These have been around for YEARS, Stunna, 15-Jun-09 06:58 AM, #20
Reply RE: These have been around for YEARS, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 08:39 AM, #21
Reply maybe i'm wrong, but, Stunna, 15-Jun-09 09:15 AM, #22
     Reply RE: maybe i'm wrong, but, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 10:05 AM, #23
          Reply I guess if I was playing more mages they'd be more appe..., Stunna, 15-Jun-09 01:37 PM, #35
               Reply FWIW, I've never used them., Mekantos, 15-Jun-09 02:42 PM, #37
Reply Not bitching, Abernyte, 16-Jun-09 04:57 AM, #39
     Reply Stop whinin about whinin, whiner., Stunna, 16-Jun-09 12:24 PM, #40
     Reply My deal with these beads is:, Adhelard, 16-Jun-09 12:55 PM, #41
     Reply One thing here, Mekantos, 16-Jun-09 02:40 PM, #43
Reply No offense Abernyte..., Torak, 13-Jun-09 10:08 PM, #7
Reply None taken, not even from the 'You must be a newb comme..., Abernyte, 14-Jun-09 02:41 AM, #8
     Reply To be fair:, Daevryn, 14-Jun-09 01:57 PM, #10
          Reply RE: To be fair:, Isildur, 14-Jun-09 06:11 PM, #11
               Reply Actually, Dwoggurd, 14-Jun-09 07:33 PM, #12
                    Reply RE: Actually, Daevryn, 14-Jun-09 09:09 PM, #13
                    Reply How many goodies are in the top100 pkers?, TMNS, 14-Jun-09 09:19 PM, #14
                         Reply Current mortal top 40..., Zulghinlour, 14-Jun-09 09:23 PM, #15
                         Reply And how it is relevant to the subject?, Dwoggurd, 14-Jun-09 10:08 PM, #16
                              Reply RE: And how it is relevant to the subject?, Isildur, 14-Jun-09 10:23 PM, #17
                              Reply It is not because goodies suck, Dwoggurd, 14-Jun-09 10:44 PM, #18
                                   Reply RE: It is not because goodies suck, Valkenar, 15-Jun-09 10:35 AM, #24
                                   Reply So that is my point, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 11:23 AM, #26
                                        Reply What is your standard then?, Valkenar, 15-Jun-09 12:33 PM, #31
                                        Reply Not raw power, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 01:02 PM, #33
                                             Reply RE: Not raw power, Valkenar, 15-Jun-09 02:38 PM, #36
                                        Reply RE: So that is my point, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 12:44 PM, #32
                                             Reply yet again, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 01:08 PM, #34
                                                  Reply RE: yet again, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 02:44 PM, #38
                                   Reply RE: It is not because goodies suck, Daevryn, 15-Jun-09 11:15 AM, #25
                                   Reply Goodie healers, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 11:38 AM, #28
                                        Reply RE: Goodie healers, Daevryn, 15-Jun-09 11:55 AM, #29
                                             Reply I may try, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 12:21 PM, #30
                                             Reply As one who played quite a bit Fortress chars, Greddarh, 17-Jun-09 09:19 AM, #44
                                   Reply RE: It is not because goodies suck, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 11:32 AM #27
                              Reply Good post. nt., NMTW, 16-Jun-09 01:07 PM, #42
Reply RE: Progging equipment for the newbie goodies!, Isildur, 13-Jun-09 12:15 PM, #3
Reply RE: Progging equipment for the newbie goodies!, Isildur, 13-Jun-09 12:18 PM, #4
Reply Cosign., Daevryn, 13-Jun-09 01:07 PM, #5
     Reply Your post and Isildur's are facetious red herrings, fyi..., Scrimbul, 13-Jun-09 09:16 PM, #6
          Reply RE: Your post and Isildur's are facetious red herrings,..., Daevryn, 14-Jun-09 01:58 PM, #9
               Reply The combination of these two facts I think is important..., Straklaw, 15-Jun-09 12:50 AM, #19
Reply Paladin is an empowerment class too, Dwoggurd, 13-Jun-09 12:13 PM, #2
Reply Newbies are overpowered!, Quixotic, 13-Jun-09 11:52 AM, #1
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