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ScrimbulSat 13-Jun-09 09:11 PM
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#25183, "Your post and Isildur's are facetious red herrings, fyi."
Edited on Sat 13-Jun-09 09:16 PM

  

          

They ignore the issue by diverting it to saying 'This is a benefit of this alignment. If you are putting yourself in a situation to where you'd die because of these then you made a mistake.

Well I'll counter that if these things were balanced, you'd make dent targetable, clothing invulnerable, and treasures shatter in one hit from a targetted dent to the correct gear slot.

Since the latter is too hard to code and not going to happen, I'll thank you to stop calling progging unblockable DB with fewer disadvantages balanced due solely to alignment balanced, or make any and all of these items limit 1 unique. Killing whoever you want isn't an 'advantage' or 'tactical choice', it's a lifestyle and entertainment choice. Killing three other neutrals and full looting the AP or Lich who I either ganked or caught dying does not guarantee I will be able to kill that single goodie any easier when matched up with him and his buddies, especially if this goodie is either exploring in an area that I am more likely to die in than him trying to get to him even knowing it like the back of my hand, or the goodie is experienced enough to play conservatively but not experienced enough to think of entertaining #### to explore or gear to get aside from the prayer beads that will create an actual opening to kill them.

A far better, but still utter failure of an argument is, 'You're giving up stats to use these items.' When (and it *is* a matter of when, not if) they prog 2 or 3 oblits over 3 rounds, they are probably outdamaging whoever just dropped your weapon from str loss from not having the stats they are replacing.

  

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HOT TopicProgging equipment for the newbie goodies! [View all] , Abernyte, Sat 13-Jun-09 11:35 AM
Reply These have been around for YEARS, Stunna, 15-Jun-09 06:58 AM, #20
Reply RE: These have been around for YEARS, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 08:39 AM, #21
Reply maybe i'm wrong, but, Stunna, 15-Jun-09 09:15 AM, #22
     Reply RE: maybe i'm wrong, but, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 10:05 AM, #23
          Reply I guess if I was playing more mages they'd be more appe..., Stunna, 15-Jun-09 01:37 PM, #35
               Reply FWIW, I've never used them., Mekantos, 15-Jun-09 02:42 PM, #37
Reply Not bitching, Abernyte, 16-Jun-09 04:57 AM, #39
     Reply Stop whinin about whinin, whiner., Stunna, 16-Jun-09 12:24 PM, #40
     Reply My deal with these beads is:, Adhelard, 16-Jun-09 12:55 PM, #41
     Reply One thing here, Mekantos, 16-Jun-09 02:40 PM, #43
Reply No offense Abernyte..., Torak, 13-Jun-09 10:08 PM, #7
Reply None taken, not even from the 'You must be a newb comme..., Abernyte, 14-Jun-09 02:41 AM, #8
     Reply To be fair:, Daevryn, 14-Jun-09 01:57 PM, #10
          Reply RE: To be fair:, Isildur, 14-Jun-09 06:11 PM, #11
               Reply Actually, Dwoggurd, 14-Jun-09 07:33 PM, #12
                    Reply RE: Actually, Daevryn, 14-Jun-09 09:09 PM, #13
                    Reply How many goodies are in the top100 pkers?, TMNS, 14-Jun-09 09:19 PM, #14
                         Reply Current mortal top 40..., Zulghinlour, 14-Jun-09 09:23 PM, #15
                         Reply And how it is relevant to the subject?, Dwoggurd, 14-Jun-09 10:08 PM, #16
                              Reply RE: And how it is relevant to the subject?, Isildur, 14-Jun-09 10:23 PM, #17
                              Reply It is not because goodies suck, Dwoggurd, 14-Jun-09 10:44 PM, #18
                                   Reply RE: It is not because goodies suck, Valkenar, 15-Jun-09 10:35 AM, #24
                                   Reply So that is my point, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 11:23 AM, #26
                                        Reply What is your standard then?, Valkenar, 15-Jun-09 12:33 PM, #31
                                        Reply Not raw power, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 01:02 PM, #33
                                             Reply RE: Not raw power, Valkenar, 15-Jun-09 02:38 PM, #36
                                        Reply RE: So that is my point, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 12:44 PM, #32
                                             Reply yet again, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 01:08 PM, #34
                                                  Reply RE: yet again, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 02:44 PM, #38
                                   Reply RE: It is not because goodies suck, Daevryn, 15-Jun-09 11:15 AM, #25
                                   Reply Goodie healers, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 11:38 AM, #28
                                        Reply RE: Goodie healers, Daevryn, 15-Jun-09 11:55 AM, #29
                                             Reply I may try, Dwoggurd, 15-Jun-09 12:21 PM, #30
                                             Reply As one who played quite a bit Fortress chars, Greddarh, 17-Jun-09 09:19 AM, #44
                                   Reply RE: It is not because goodies suck, Isildur, 15-Jun-09 11:32 AM, #27
                              Reply Good post. nt., NMTW, 16-Jun-09 01:07 PM, #42
Reply RE: Progging equipment for the newbie goodies!, Isildur, 13-Jun-09 12:15 PM, #3
Reply RE: Progging equipment for the newbie goodies!, Isildur, 13-Jun-09 12:18 PM, #4
Reply Cosign., Daevryn, 13-Jun-09 01:07 PM, #5
     Reply Your post and Isildur's are facetious red herrings, fyi..., Scrimbul, 13-Jun-09 09:16 PM #6
          Reply RE: Your post and Isildur's are facetious red herrings,..., Daevryn, 14-Jun-09 01:58 PM, #9
               Reply The combination of these two facts I think is important..., Straklaw, 15-Jun-09 12:50 AM, #19
Reply Paladin is an empowerment class too, Dwoggurd, 13-Jun-09 12:13 PM, #2
Reply Newbies are overpowered!, Quixotic, 13-Jun-09 11:52 AM, #1
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