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UmironWed 13-Jul-16 08:03 PM
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#64103, "RE: One caveat here"
Edited on Wed 13-Jul-16 08:09 PM

          

>is that even immortals who do play morts are not a panacea
>for balance and they need to be careful because they take for
>granted the insider knowledge which the players don't have.
>Certain things will seem easier to them than they are to most
>of the playerbase.
>
>We can't plan as efficiently because we barely know how edges
>interact with builds, and even if we did, there's still a
>zillion things we don't know about the workings of the game.

Just remember that we DO listen and take seriously player feedback.

Regarding your point, I think you dramatically overestimate the "insider knowledge" the average immortal has. It really is basically nothing.

EDIT: Obviously coders (can) have a significant edge, but that's a fraction of the staff. So historically we've had a pretty good blend of experience level and knowledge-of-code level amongst the staff providing feedback (again, in addition to player feedback).

Also, just because *I* have lost my tolerance for our players doesn't mean every immortal or coder has/had.

  

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HOT TopicEdges - NOT a post about PK rewards. [View all] , Sarien, Tue 12-Jul-16 12:11 PM
Reply The nice things are strictly rationed in today's CF., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 01:41 AM, #23
Reply RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards., Umiron, 12-Jul-16 12:54 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards., LoverofCF (Anonymous), 12-Jul-16 01:12 PM, #2
     Reply who does the work?, Dallevian, 12-Jul-16 01:23 PM, #3
     Reply I'd do it. n/t, Saagkri, 12-Jul-16 01:48 PM, #6
          Reply You know how/where to apply to the staff nt, Destuvius, 12-Jul-16 05:12 PM, #10
               Reply I'd do it., Murphy, 12-Jul-16 06:46 PM, #11
     Reply RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards., Umiron, 12-Jul-16 01:55 PM, #7
     Reply RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards., LoverofCF (Anonymous), 12-Jul-16 02:59 PM, #9
     Reply It's not just player ideas., Jormyr, 12-Jul-16 10:55 PM, #15
          Reply Start passing the hat around for a new keyboard. , Demos, 12-Jul-16 10:28 PM, #18
     Reply Followup - Your cookie cutter comment., Sarien, 12-Jul-16 01:25 PM, #4
     Reply RE: Followup - Your cookie cutter comment., Umiron, 12-Jul-16 01:36 PM, #5
          Reply RE: Followup - Your cookie cutter comment., TJHuron, 12-Jul-16 02:06 PM, #8
          Reply Bards are no longer my favorite class, Murphy, 12-Jul-16 06:50 PM, #12
          Reply That was actually the one class I had in mind when maki..., TJHuron, 12-Jul-16 07:40 PM, #13
          Reply Bards still are my fav. class, lasentia, 13-Jul-16 07:05 AM, #25
               Reply I'm not revealing any of my secrets., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 07:58 AM, #26
               Reply I would trade every edge I could get for bash protectio..., lasentia, 13-Jul-16 10:08 AM, #29
                    Reply Dude, you don't understand Murph. He needs at least 15..., TMNS, 13-Jul-16 06:52 PM, #38
                    Reply You know nothing, Same., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 07:44 PM, #47
                    Reply Play a centaur bard., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 08:47 PM, #53
               Reply I think you need to know the bard type to answer this, TJHuron, 13-Jul-16 08:10 AM, #28
                    Reply RE: I think you need to know the bard type to answer th..., lasentia, 13-Jul-16 10:35 AM, #30
                         Reply Well, one can make your argument for any class and edge..., TJHuron, 13-Jul-16 11:16 AM, #31
                         Reply I think we do agree, lasentia, 13-Jul-16 02:57 PM, #32
                              Reply RE: I think we do agree, stlucian1992, 13-Jul-16 03:59 PM, #35
                         Reply Honestly, Perfect Pitch was the only "must have"., TMNS, 13-Jul-16 06:53 PM, #39
                              Reply Perfect pitch is not required, Murphy, 13-Jul-16 08:21 PM, #52
          Reply Ironically, I go entirely the other way., Jormyr, 12-Jul-16 07:53 PM, #14
          Reply I found a few like that., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 01:38 AM, #22
          Reply RE: Ironically, I go entirely the other way., Saagkri, 13-Jul-16 08:08 AM, #27
          Reply RE: Followup - Your cookie cutter comment., Umiron, 12-Jul-16 09:05 PM, #16
               Reply Armchair balancing., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 01:38 AM, #21
                    Reply RE: Armchair balancing., Umiron, 13-Jul-16 05:42 PM, #36
                         Reply This is why I've never applied. =) n/t, Lhydia, 13-Jul-16 06:43 PM, #37
                         Reply Not for nothing, but remember Murph is ESL., TMNS, 13-Jul-16 06:56 PM, #40
                         Reply "Has ESL", not "is ESL"., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 08:51 PM, #54
                              Reply ESL = English Speaking Louse, TMNS, 13-Jul-16 09:32 PM, #55
                                   Reply You stinking RLB., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 11:21 PM, #57
                         Reply Oh I understand, Murphy, 13-Jul-16 07:48 PM, #44
                              Reply RE: Oh I understand, Umiron, 13-Jul-16 07:46 PM, #48
                                   Reply One caveat here, Murphy, 13-Jul-16 08:00 PM, #49
                                        Reply RE: One caveat here, Umiron, 13-Jul-16 08:09 PM #50
                                             Reply I judge from my own experience, Murphy, 13-Jul-16 08:16 PM, #51
          Reply This made my night!, SPN, 12-Jul-16 11:06 PM, #19
          Reply In practice, there are huge gamechanger edges, Sertius, 13-Jul-16 03:21 PM, #33
               Reply Buki edges are super cheap., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 03:29 PM, #34
               Reply Hey! I came up with that regen in forest's better edge..., TMNS, 13-Jul-16 06:57 PM, #41
     Reply RE: Edges - NOT a post about PK rewards., Bemused, 12-Jul-16 09:17 PM, #17
     Reply Plenty of edge points is what allows one to NOT min-max..., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 01:35 AM, #20
     Reply No, your ass broke it with your 32 edged-character. FF..., TMNS, 13-Jul-16 06:59 PM, #42
          Reply 31-edged., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 07:42 PM, #45
     Reply Edge popularity doesn't measure strength or usefulness., KaguMaru, 13-Jul-16 05:40 AM, #24
     Reply They've been scarce for all of 6 months or so., TMNS, 13-Jul-16 07:01 PM, #43
          Reply 30 edges is fine and it never hurt the game., Murphy, 13-Jul-16 07:43 PM, #46
          Reply My funstick disagrees., TMNS, 13-Jul-16 09:33 PM, #56
          Reply RC rewards:, Iunna, 14-Jul-16 03:16 PM, #61
          Reply Nah, throw them a minor power., TMNS, 14-Jul-16 06:21 PM, #62
          Reply Yeah but that sounds boring., Iunna, 14-Jul-16 06:40 PM, #63
               Reply RE: Yeah but that sounds boring., Umiron, 14-Jul-16 06:47 PM, #64
          Reply The fact that you actually had 7 legacies makes it sort..., Lhydia, 14-Jul-16 09:18 PM, #65
          Reply They were scarce before and experimenting with uknown e..., KaguMaru, 16-Jul-16 05:02 AM, #67
     Reply Two ideas., Shapa, 14-Jul-16 01:44 AM, #58
          Reply RE: Two ideas., Umiron, 14-Jul-16 06:35 AM, #59
          Reply I have a counter suggestion, Kstatida, 14-Jul-16 07:54 AM, #60
               Reply RE: I have a counter suggestion, Shapa, 14-Jul-16 09:36 PM, #66
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