>That would be a different story. I'm certain the learning
>curve is hard for many to overcome. The added part about sad
>vets and pk counts? ####, it's Carrion Fields. Changing that
>is changing the game. There are plenty of MUDs around that
>cater to that attitude, so we don't need to change ours to fit
>that model.
>
And this is part of the problem. If we want more people to stay and learn to play our mud, we need to give them more breathing room while they do it.

Killing them is fine, but a big loot for the sake of it, or killing them back to back... not so fine. Hell, why kill them again if you've already determined that they can't fine their way out of FoN even when they can see.