>>In all fairness. I'm not Nimbus. I'm not BoltThrower. Nor
>>am I Intronan or Kastellyn. We all have our ways of giving
>>out punishment and praise. The warning regarding this
>>incident came three days before it occured, when I warned
>>the village that I will not hesitate to remove them from
>>battle regarding things like this. I also specifically got
>>on those 6+ villagers about calling other cabals to handle
>>their dirty-work. Knowing full well this individual was
>>present for the discussion, I wasn't about to give him
>>another warning.
>
>It wasn't really this case in particular, it's just the fact
>that there is a long string of these sort of complaints
>about you and they don't ever stop. The only other case
>i've seen anything like it was when Empire was doing the
>random uninductions... but that's Empire. I really have no
>idea about this particular one, but that wasn't really the
>point.

...and they are from the same people. People who are Veterans at playing Battle who tend to think that they can do no wrong. At the same time, I've got immortals telling me that while I'm NOT watching, my cabal is ganging the hell out of everyone. Then I've got e-mails and forums that are consistantly pointing out who is ganging who and why these individuals are let off the hook (knowing full well I haven't seen the incident). I'm sorry if it offends you or anyone else in the playerbase but I'm in the position to police battle. Excuse me for trying to do my job.

Add to the fact that this is not 'random uninductions,' these uninductions have merit to them. They have a substance and in this particular incident (as with most) the individual is given a chance to explain themselves before getting la boot.

>>>a raid well handled and then send everybody on a cool
>>>scavenger hunt. It was also pretty cool when the battle
>>
>>Wierd. I'd like to think I've done my share of quests etc.
>
>You have, my point was just that Boltthrower was fairly
>positive.

Fair enough.

>>>leaders could actually lead their cabals and decide on
>>>policy, number of members, how to handle erratic members ON
>>>THEIR OWN etc.... Why, it feels as if the inquisition was
>>>just yesterday. Oh, and to be fair, Thror did once make a
>>>crack about Jhyrbian living in his mom's basement, it's
>>>rather human to expect these responses when somebody
>>>assaults something you've spent over a hundred hours on.
>>
>>Exactly. We're all human. I'd like to think I can walk in
>>a bar and slug it out with the best of them. Try to
>>remember, Immortals do not come to the forums and begin
>>slinging around insults just for kicks. We just respond to
>>them.
>
>I would like a bit of response for the first half of that,
>which is really something that bothers me. Mortal control


A response to the first part of this is explained further below. I'm a scrapper. Anyone wants to sling mud my way, expect to have it thrown back at you.

>of cabals spices things up a lot. I was on one of my many
>periods of hiatus during the time Intronan was leader and I
>heard that got fairly interesting, and I know leaders might
>have a little control of affairs... but for the most part
>you tell them how many people they're supposed to have,

Battle is a very odd cabal. From past experience as well as experience with my peers, if the cabal gets too large, I have to micromanage more. Coupled with the fact that we've had a rather shitty string of cheating leaders, I don't think I'm going overboard by putting a number cap on the cabal. If people want to join battle bad enough, they'll eventually make it in.


>often you tell them how to treat other cabals, you've
>entirely placed the what's magical and what isn't debate
>under your control as opposed to it varying from leader to
>leader, and so on. You don't even let the leader handle the

Every cabal has it's policies. Battle has it's policies as well. I shouldn't have to tell Battle how to treat other cabals. It's written on the plaque. I will however, enforce that plaque when I need to.

>behavior of their own cabal members. You constantly snoop
>people and then transfer into the Destructor to yell at them
>if you think they're wrong. I remember back when I played

I'm calling BS on this. I'm not online enough to constantly snoop people. I'd also like to think I'm a bit more productive than this.
You're looking from the outside in, so I'm going to take this worth a grain of salt.

>Bastian we had Arbiters being bribed to remove flags. The
>Arbiter Lords convened and we planned some stuff like paid
>spies and so on. We even met behind the evil lord's back
>and tried to figure out a way to keep tabs on him. That was
>fun, that would not have existed if an immortal sat there
>constantly snooping members and just uninducted the
>culprits. That's just an example of what I think the game
>is losing.

Can't help you there. Everyone has their own perspective.

>>Not when you are basing your opinions on a forum that is
>>filled with half-truths and edited logs.
>
>I was the first rager inducted under the new changes and
>i've played tons before and after that. One quick example.
>I get back from a hard day of studying biochem at the
>library. I log on, jack a scion ap in hamsah and proceed to
>call it out over the cb. Two ragers in his range are on and
>I have a couple other Scions in range. I figure if he calls
>for help then I should have some help on the way too. I
>wait two ticks for any protections to drop and then attack
>him (nobody is in Hamsah yet on the where). The battle
>takes a while cause I decide to resort to flee/knife and the
>other ragers show up and bash him down. You transfer into
>the Destructor, call us over, and spend the next half an
>hour arguing about the incident. Perhaps what they did was

Perhaps? It was wrong. Find yourself on the other end of this kind of attack, time and time again and you'll realize why it was wrong.

>wrong, but you yell at me for asking help with a single
>mage. I argue that I clearly attacked him on my own and
>just wanted even odds if other scions showed up. Is that

Make your intentions clear. If you want people in Hamsah to back you up, make sure you tell them this. If you are with two buddies who decide to pull over at a store and rob it, does that make you any less innocent? Don't put yourself in that situation and you have nothing to worry about.


>fun for you? It certainly isn't for me. At some point I
>realize my break hour is over and I have to log off to get

Not really. If you think the immortal staff has 'fun' doing much of what we do, you are completely wrong. I've found myself missing much of the 'fun' that is associated with this game.

>back to work... wishing I had instead fired up the ps2 or
>done something less irritating and more relaxing. At one
>point you said you were going to stop micromanaging and let
>the cabal handle itself for a while. Personally i'd like to
>see that happen.... the only time I would like to see your

Again, I think you are making statements based on an earlier time. I've been around so little I'm surprised I'm still making an uproar in the cabal. Guess everyone has to have their scapegoat right?

Color me Cador.

>heavy handed rule is when the cabal leadership is
>continually absent and things get too lax.