>In all fairness. I'm not Nimbus. I'm not BoltThrower. Nor
>am I Intronan or Kastellyn. We all have our ways of giving
>out punishment and praise. The warning regarding this
>incident came three days before it occured, when I warned
>the village that I will not hesitate to remove them from
>battle regarding things like this. I also specifically got
>on those 6+ villagers about calling other cabals to handle
>their dirty-work. Knowing full well this individual was
>present for the discussion, I wasn't about to give him
>another warning.

It wasn't really this case in particular, it's just the fact that there is a long string of these sort of complaints about you and they don't ever stop. The only other case i've seen anything like it was when Empire was doing the random uninductions... but that's Empire. I really have no idea about this particular one, but that wasn't really the point.

>>a raid well handled and then send everybody on a cool
>>scavenger hunt. It was also pretty cool when the battle
>
>Wierd. I'd like to think I've done my share of quests etc.

You have, my point was just that Boltthrower was fairly positive.

>>leaders could actually lead their cabals and decide on
>>policy, number of members, how to handle erratic members ON
>>THEIR OWN etc.... Why, it feels as if the inquisition was
>>just yesterday. Oh, and to be fair, Thror did once make a
>>crack about Jhyrbian living in his mom's basement, it's
>>rather human to expect these responses when somebody
>>assaults something you've spent over a hundred hours on.
>
>Exactly. We're all human. I'd like to think I can walk in
>a bar and slug it out with the best of them. Try to
>remember, Immortals do not come to the forums and begin
>slinging around insults just for kicks. We just respond to
>them.

I would like a bit of response for the first half of that, which is really something that bothers me. Mortal control of cabals spices things up a lot. I was on one of my many periods of hiatus during the time Intronan was leader and I heard that got fairly interesting, and I know leaders might have a little control of affairs... but for the most part you tell them how many people they're supposed to have, often you tell them how to treat other cabals, you've entirely placed the what's magical and what isn't debate under your control as opposed to it varying from leader to leader, and so on. You don't even let the leader handle the behavior of their own cabal members. You constantly snoop people and then transfer into the Destructor to yell at them if you think they're wrong. I remember back when I played Bastian we had Arbiters being bribed to remove flags. The Arbiter Lords convened and we planned some stuff like paid spies and so on. We even met behind the evil lord's back and tried to figure out a way to keep tabs on him. That was fun, that would not have existed if an immortal sat there constantly snooping members and just uninducted the culprits. That's just an example of what I think the game is losing.

>Not when you are basing your opinions on a forum that is
>filled with half-truths and edited logs.

I was the first rager inducted under the new changes and i've played tons before and after that. One quick example. I get back from a hard day of studying biochem at the library. I log on, jack a scion ap in hamsah and proceed to call it out over the cb. Two ragers in his range are on and I have a couple other Scions in range. I figure if he calls for help then I should have some help on the way too. I wait two ticks for any protections to drop and then attack him (nobody is in Hamsah yet on the where). The battle takes a while cause I decide to resort to flee/knife and the other ragers show up and bash him down. You transfer into the Destructor, call us over, and spend the next half an hour arguing about the incident. Perhaps what they did was wrong, but you yell at me for asking help with a single mage. I argue that I clearly attacked him on my own and just wanted even odds if other scions showed up. Is that fun for you? It certainly isn't for me. At some point I realize my break hour is over and I have to log off to get back to work... wishing I had instead fired up the ps2 or done something less irritating and more relaxing. At one point you said you were going to stop micromanaging and let the cabal handle itself for a while. Personally i'd like to see that happen.... the only time I would like to see your heavy handed rule is when the cabal leadership is continually absent and things get too lax.