Savraeth | Wed 11-Jun-03 02:05 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
5 posts
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#18272, "RE: Alliances"
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My experience with cabal alliances and how the players in general handle them tends to be somewhat different than yours. You point to the Warlock/Sylvan war as an example, yet while it's good for players to have an impact on things, and to have some freedom to make wars and alliances, everything I've seen tells me that the vast majority only ever act in their own personal interest, and not in that of what their character or cabal ought to think.
I've lost track of how many times I (or the Sylvan Imms) have had to step in to stop Warlock and Sylvan from declaring peace so they can go back to beating on Scion, and now Empire. This was true even when there were less than ten members in the whole Scion cabal. The war goes on because the Imms realize that the whole situation would be even worse than it is now if we hadn't stepped in to prevent such a peace.
The playerbase does not default to wanting an even, fair, fun fight. It defaults to wanting absurd odds in your own favor, and not really caring if that detracts from the overall fun of the game, *until* they're on the receiving end. This is why everyone bitches about ganging, yet everyone still does it.
I really would love to just let the cabal leaders all run with things, and fight wars and make alliances as they saw fit, because having that could make for some really cool scenes and stories. Unfortunately, from all I've seen, it would just lead to ganging on a cabal scale level.
These are all just my opinions, though, not necessarily those of anyone else.
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[DELETE] Wilhath the Master Historian, Imperial War Mas...
[View all] , Wilhath, Mon 09-Jun-03 03:18 PM
Too bad for you.,
Lightmaged (Guest),
10-Jun-03 12:47 PM, #37
Foot talk mouth listen.,
Mazaufat,
10-Jun-03 02:35 PM, #42
From watching, I agree with this totally (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-03 02:50 PM, #43
I agree but only slightly....,
Lightmaged (Guest),
10-Jun-03 04:49 PM, #47
Here is a thought..,
Mazaufat,
10-Jun-03 05:00 PM, #48
Guess I will have to. n/t,
Lightmaged (Guest),
10-Jun-03 06:56 PM, #53
RE: I agree but only slightly....,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-03 05:03 PM, #49
Talking ####,
Lightmaged (Guest),
10-Jun-03 06:45 PM, #51
RE: Talking ####,
Valguarnera,
10-Jun-03 10:19 PM, #56
Explaination,
Lightmaged (Guest),
10-Jun-03 11:05 PM, #57
Hah!!!,
Zepachu,
11-Jun-03 12:59 PM, #65
I think I can,
Mazaufat,
11-Jun-03 12:07 AM, #59
Nah, we've been multikilling faeras for awhile, he's ju...,
Rabid Sylvan (Guest),
10-Jun-03 11:38 PM, #58
Alliances should not be "fixed" and here's why...,
Cabal Observer (Guest),
11-Jun-03 11:38 AM, #63
Sorry, but you are too far from truth,
Rooqweaz,
11-Jun-03 01:33 PM, #67
Reply,
Observer (Guest),
11-Jun-03 03:52 PM, #72
RE: Alliances,
Savraeth,
11-Jun-03 02:05 PM #68
I agree with this completely,
Daurwyn (Guest),
11-Jun-03 02:46 PM, #69
A comment on this...,
Ana (Guest),
11-Jun-03 03:30 PM, #70
generally true, athough,
incognito,
11-Jun-03 03:43 PM, #71
Exactly...,
Observer (Guest),
11-Jun-03 03:55 PM, #73
You don't tire of this topic do you?,
deja-vu (Guest),
10-Jun-03 05:36 PM, #50
unfortunatly...,
Lightmaged (Guest),
10-Jun-03 06:48 PM, #52
bitter much?,
deja-vu (Guest),
11-Jun-03 06:44 AM, #62
RE: I agree but only slightly....,
Vlad (Guest),
11-Jun-03 12:15 PM, #64
RE: I agree but only slightly....,
Zepachu,
11-Jun-03 01:03 PM, #66
Well said, and i agree on all accounts n/t...,
Zargu,
11-Jun-03 03:41 AM, #61
The good-evil dilema,
Ulthur,
10-Jun-03 08:19 AM, #30
I don't buy that,
Aidan,
10-Jun-03 11:29 AM, #32
RE: I don't buy that,
gherian (Guest),
11-Jun-03 04:05 PM, #74
RE: The good-evil dilema,
Urden_X (Guest),
11-Jun-03 12:54 AM, #60
RE: [DELETE] Wilhath the Master Historian, Imperial War...,
Dacheal (Guest),
10-Jun-03 06:38 AM, #25
RE: [DELETE] Wilhath the Master Historian, Imperial War...,
Zargu,
10-Jun-03 03:33 AM, #23
I've been trying to get into scion,
someone (Guest),
10-Jun-03 03:51 AM, #24
RE: I've been trying to get into scion,
Zargu,
10-Jun-03 10:18 AM, #31
unfortunately,
someone (Guest),
10-Jun-03 11:44 AM, #33
Michaelangelo of the Mud,
Jhanderin (Guest),
10-Jun-03 03:09 AM, #22
The paintings and a note to the Lyceum directors,
Wilhath,
10-Jun-03 07:24 AM, #28
RE: [DELETE] Wilhath the Master Historian, Imperial War...,
Lao (Guest),
10-Jun-03 12:22 AM, #21
Lots of Love/Hate, but I liked you,
Mehkoa (Guest),
09-Jun-03 11:54 PM, #20
Knipit bids you farewell,
Aidan,
09-Jun-03 10:41 PM, #18
Yeah, you can post it.,
Wilhath,
09-Jun-03 10:48 PM, #19
Nice notes,
Sylvrin (Guest),
09-Jun-03 08:20 PM, #15
Actually I think I won the bard v. bard battle,
Wilhath,
09-Jun-03 08:27 PM, #16
RE: Actually I think I won the bard v. bard battle,
Sylvrin (Guest),
10-Jun-03 09:23 PM, #54
Yes, that's the one.,
Wilhath,
10-Jun-03 10:09 PM, #55
RE: [DELETE] Wilhath the Master Historian, Imperial War...,
Akrangol (Guest),
09-Jun-03 07:24 PM, #14
I was looking forward to fighting you as a hero too,
Wilhath,
10-Jun-03 07:28 AM, #29
RE: [DELETE] Wilhath the Master Historian, Imperial War...,
Black Death,
09-Jun-03 06:15 PM, #13
Sorry to see you go.,
Selatiel (Guest),
09-Jun-03 05:27 PM, #12
RE: [DELETE] Wilhath the Master Historian, Imperial War...,
Blachmianan (Guest),
09-Jun-03 04:54 PM, #11
I'm really sorry to see this.,
Faeras (Guest),
09-Jun-03 04:43 PM, #10
Thanks and I can relate,
Sylvrin (Guest),
09-Jun-03 08:32 PM, #17
Damn,
Eluna1 (Guest),
09-Jun-03 04:24 PM, #8
RE: [DELETE] Wilhath the Master Historian, Imperial War...,
Navarro (Guest),
09-Jun-03 04:14 PM, #6
P.S.,
Navarro (Guest),
09-Jun-03 04:15 PM, #7
100 gold,
Wilhath,
09-Jun-03 04:25 PM, #9
I'm curious,
Rooqweaz,
10-Jun-03 06:45 AM, #26
I never minded it,
Wilhath,
10-Jun-03 07:19 AM, #27
RE: I'm curious,
Imperial Spy (Guest),
10-Jun-03 11:59 AM, #34
So,
Rooqweaz,
10-Jun-03 12:26 PM, #35
RE: Donations,
Imperial Blade (Guest),
10-Jun-03 12:46 PM, #36
Current Donations....,
Gabe,
10-Jun-03 01:01 PM, #38
RE: That would be my one change to Donations:,
Imperial Blade (Guest),
10-Jun-03 01:13 PM, #39
Re: (Magical),
Valguarnera,
10-Jun-03 01:17 PM, #40
RE: Re: (Magical),
Imperial Blade (Guest),
10-Jun-03 01:29 PM, #41
I am actively tweaking values of donated items (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-03 02:52 PM, #45
There are currently 1 (maybe 2) with 10mil in donations...,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-03 02:51 PM, #44
Necessary evil,
Mazaufat,
10-Jun-03 03:06 PM, #46
RE: [DELETE] Wilhath the Master Historian, Imperial War...,
Khasotholas,
09-Jun-03 04:07 PM, #5
Good luck with the next (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
09-Jun-03 03:49 PM, #4
RE: [DELETE] Wilhath the Master Historian, Imperial War...,
Mazaufat,
09-Jun-03 03:46 PM, #2
As Mesdoram...,
Beer,
09-Jun-03 03:45 PM, #1
Of course you would've won. Songs don't work on cabalma...,
Wilhath,
09-Jun-03 03:47 PM, #3
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