>-Because I know exactly two people who hand-roll. Most use
>scripts/rollers and aren't even paying attention during the
>process. That is what I meant. All vets are going to see, (not
>me, I couldn't care, but some do) is that now you have lower
>stats. So in their eyes, it's a tone-down. But whatever, like
>I said, stat rolling isn't much of an issue to me.

It's numerically less during the rolling process, but you can
*easily* get better gains faster and sustain them throughout
the life of the character if you're a vet. Remember, at level
we use the better of your natural or adjusted stats now.

If you were willing to take max -2 before, now you can just
accept the first roll every time on every character combo.
Or you can roll longer and try to put the -2 into a specific
stat. But if you're a vet, I'd wager that you can not only
clear that gap, but you could max out your adjusted stats
(and have them count now) almost immediately.

You'll also find the newbies around you aren't rolling for
max -15 anymore (groan), so if you decide to play a mage
you'll be able to rely on a newbie to tank more often.