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DurNominatorTue 12-Jun-12 04:28 AM
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#45797, "It's like this."
Edited on Tue 12-Jun-12 04:33 AM

          

Each balance meter in Nexus has five stages. Let us assume that stage 1 is heavy tipping od darkness and stage 5 heavy tipping of light. Stage 3 is actual balance, and that's what Nexus wants.

1 - Nexus is ally of Fort as the two cabals have the same goal of reducing the darkness. Nexus might raid evil cabals and hunts evils.

2 - Nexus is ally of Fort, but only provides retrieval assistance. Does not necessarily hunt evils, but does deny them any aid.

3 - Balance. Nexus doesn't meddle in other cabals' affairs.

4 - Nexus denies goodies aid and helps evils to retrieve or in other ways. Does not necessarily hunt goodies and doesn't go for the orb.

5 - Nexus might hunt goodies and potentially raids for the orb.

In stage 5, Nexus may be hostile enough to warrant raiding. In this stage, it is viable to strike Nexus in retaliation if the state of the Balance hasn't changed to 4 or below. The exact when depends of the current crop of Nexus and how aggressively they react to different states of balance.

What you must understand here is that Nexus is not evil, and therefore Nexans are never hunted due to Fort objective to "kill evils". However, sometimes Fort objective to "Protect the Light" may require hurting Nexans or possibly even striking the Nexus itself if the situation gets bad enough. This is, when people who aren't inherently anti-Nexus and view killing Nexans as a bad, regrettable thing, but do so because they think it is lesser evil than letting them run rampant in that situation.

What comes to Nexans attacking you when Light holds sway, you should discuss the attack with Nexans and try to talk things out. You should also find out the state of balance (4 or 5) during each individual attack. After turning the other cheek for a couple of times during that state of balance, you can attack that particular Nexan during that particular state of balance. However, you should also acknowledge that Nexan A might behave differently as function of Balance than Nexan B, meaning that the pattern you've observed only applies to that particular Nexan. Thus, witnessing Nexan B repeatedly attack light during balance state 4 doesn't mean that you should attack Nexan A during balance state 4.

If you're "being Pro" about it, to use Raybaer's wording, and demand that either you can attack Nexans or you can't attack, no caveats, then the answer is that you can't attack Nexans. Attacking Nexans is an exception, not a rule.

  

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HOT Locked TopicI'm starting an Occupy Nexun movement. [View all] , Alston, Thu 07-Jun-12 07:51 PM
Reply The problem, Graatch, 12-Jun-12 10:54 AM, #114
Reply RE: The problem, Daevryn, 12-Jun-12 10:56 AM, #115
     Reply The real problem is Pro and Graatch, Tac, 12-Jun-12 11:02 AM, #116
     Reply RE: The problem, Graatch, 12-Jun-12 11:03 AM, #117
          Reply RE: The problem, Daevryn, 12-Jun-12 11:05 AM, #118
               Reply RE: The problem, Graatch, 12-Jun-12 11:13 AM, #120
               Reply RE: The problem, Daevryn, 12-Jun-12 11:20 AM, #122
                    Reply RE: The problem, Graatch, 12-Jun-12 11:23 AM, #123
               Reply Maaaaaan. Are you serious? Did you just say that after ..., Alston, 12-Jun-12 11:18 AM, #121
Reply Couple points, Valkenar, 10-Jun-12 09:28 PM, #66
Reply RE: Couple points, Graatch, 10-Jun-12 10:14 PM, #67
Reply RE: Couple points, Rayihn, 11-Jun-12 06:05 AM, #68
     Reply You told my Paladin to talk to and forgive them. , Alston, 11-Jun-12 07:47 AM, #69
     Reply Case by case basis, Rayihn, 11-Jun-12 08:37 AM, #72
     Reply RE: Couple points, Graatch, 11-Jun-12 09:43 AM, #73
          Reply RE: Couple points, Rayihn, 11-Jun-12 10:40 AM, #76
          Reply RE: Couple points, Graatch, 11-Jun-12 01:38 PM, #80
               Reply RE: Couple points, lasentia, 11-Jun-12 02:13 PM, #81
               Reply They should be killed on sight., Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:34 PM, #91
               Reply RE: Couple points, Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 03:15 PM, #82
               Reply Because Nexus is Chaotic Evil. n/t, Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:28 PM, #87
                    Reply RE: Because Nexus is Chaotic Evil. n/t, Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 06:33 PM, #90
                         Reply Okay. Not to troll. But can you explain how they aren't..., Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:39 PM, #93
                              Reply Do you listen to yourself?, laxman, 11-Jun-12 08:29 PM, #96
                              Reply RE: Okay. Not to troll. But can you explain how they ar..., Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 09:10 PM, #97
                                   Reply To use the P and G point, Artificial, 11-Jun-12 09:17 PM, #98
                                   Reply Speaking of retards,,,,, Alston, 11-Jun-12 09:23 PM, #99
                                   Reply For you and laxman above., Alston, 11-Jun-12 09:39 PM, #100
                                        Reply RE: For you and laxman above., Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 09:43 PM, #101
                                        Reply Let me be helpful., Scrimbul, 11-Jun-12 10:32 PM, #102
                                        Reply RE: Let me be helpful., Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 10:40 PM, #103
                                        Reply That's just it. It should be., Alston, 11-Jun-12 10:47 PM, #104
                                             Reply Fortress can better influence neutrals towards goodly b..., DurNominator, 12-Jun-12 01:05 AM, #105
                                                  Reply You can't unrape someone, or unkill them., Alston, 12-Jun-12 07:47 AM, #108
                                                       Reply puhg said it below, you are thinking like a neutral or ..., laxman, 12-Jun-12 08:59 AM, #111
                                                            Reply How do you forgive someone for killing someone else? Yo..., Alston, 12-Jun-12 09:43 AM, #112
                                                                 Reply in cf people die and come back, its not as big a deal a..., laxman, 12-Jun-12 10:31 AM, #113
                                                                 Reply All your arguments are rooted in OOC mechanics. n/t, Alston, 12-Jun-12 11:12 AM, #119
                                        Reply Your view of "good align" seems far more similar to a n..., Puhguly, 12-Jun-12 05:17 AM, #107
                                             Reply You're opinion seems to be rooted in moral bankruptcy., Alston, 12-Jun-12 07:58 AM, #109
               Reply You are dumb, laxman, 11-Jun-12 04:23 PM, #83
                    Reply Yeah, you pretty much misunderstand what he's saying. Y..., Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:33 PM, #89
          Reply Was that with your elf invoker?, TMNS, 11-Jun-12 04:37 PM, #85
Reply I'm not missing anything. I said exactly that., Alston, 11-Jun-12 07:55 AM, #70
     Reply RE: I'm not missing anything. I said exactly that., DurNominator, 11-Jun-12 08:31 AM, #71
          Reply Wait a minute., Alston, 11-Jun-12 10:16 AM, #74
               Reply RE: Wait a minute., Daevryn, 11-Jun-12 10:37 AM, #75
               Reply FYI... I think Fortress would be raiding about everyone..., Alston, 11-Jun-12 12:18 PM, #77
                    Reply There are evil tribs, and neutral ones doing evil thing..., lasentia, 11-Jun-12 01:15 PM, #78
                         Reply I can't believe I have to spell this out., Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:31 PM, #88
                              Reply RE: I can't believe I have to spell this out., lasentia, 12-Jun-12 08:48 AM, #110
               Reply It's like this., DurNominator, 12-Jun-12 04:33 AM #106
Reply Alas, the majority and imms disagree with you. And tyra..., Batman (Anonymous), 09-Jun-12 06:30 AM, #34
Reply Would all of the people who hate on Nexus please name t..., Puhguly, 08-Jun-12 04:38 PM, #21
Reply This kills me., Alston, 08-Jun-12 07:17 PM, #22
Reply The reason I bring it up is this, Puhguly, 08-Jun-12 08:15 PM, #26
     Reply Yes I can. God that's a stupid argument., Alston, 08-Jun-12 10:07 PM, #29
     Reply You don't even understand neutrality properly., DurNominator, 09-Jun-12 05:42 AM, #33
          Reply Of course I do. And I don't think Nexun is the only int..., Alston, 09-Jun-12 08:52 AM, #37
               Reply I don't remember any AD&D class required to be lawful., Homard, 09-Jun-12 09:07 AM, #39
               Reply I meant Monks., Alston, 09-Jun-12 10:49 AM, #41
                    Reply Yep, Tsunami, 09-Jun-12 10:57 AM, #42
                    Reply They could never be Lawful Good. Because you can't sudd..., Alston, 09-Jun-12 11:41 AM, #46
                         Reply You just kind of said that Maran cant be good with that..., Puhguly, 09-Jun-12 12:52 PM, #48
                         Reply Maran want genocide vs dark-elf nt, Tsunami, 09-Jun-12 03:27 PM, #50
                              Reply Yep. Where's the disconnect here? But to be more clear...., Alston, 09-Jun-12 04:12 PM, #51
                                   Reply So..., Tsunami, 09-Jun-12 04:31 PM, #52
                                        Reply First of all I strayed when I agreed with your genocide..., Alston, 09-Jun-12 04:58 PM, #53
                                             Reply RE: First of all I strayed when I agreed with your geno..., Tsunami, 09-Jun-12 08:38 PM, #57
                                                  Reply My beef with Nexus is how we are forced to accept them., Alston, 10-Jun-12 08:33 AM, #60
                                                       Reply Play something other than Fortress, Malakhi, 10-Jun-12 10:31 AM, #61
                                                       Reply I have followed through on my threats. Thank you very m..., Alston, 10-Jun-12 11:22 AM, #62
                                                            Reply No, you haven't., Malakhi, 11-Jun-12 12:53 PM, #79
                                                            Reply n/t, Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:40 PM, #92
                                                       Reply You are forced to accept neutrals of Battle and Outland..., DurNominator, 10-Jun-12 11:50 AM, #63
                                                            Reply They should. And I do on an indiviual basis., Alston, 10-Jun-12 11:54 AM, #64
                                                                 Reply You're unnecessarily limiting yourself., Homard, 10-Jun-12 12:45 PM, #65
                    Reply Thanks. Bringing it all back. n/t, Homard, 09-Jun-12 11:16 AM, #44
               Reply Neutral ragers and outlanders frequently hunt goodies., DurNominator, 09-Jun-12 11:31 AM, #45
                    Reply I think Ragers should be enemies of the Fortress too., Alston, 09-Jun-12 11:44 AM, #47
     Reply Seconded, DurNominator, 09-Jun-12 05:40 AM, #32
          Reply Thirded, lasentia, 09-Jun-12 09:26 AM, #40
Reply I've had several, and I still loathe the cabal. , Vladamir, 09-Jun-12 07:09 AM, #36
Reply I've played several Nexuns., TMNS, 11-Jun-12 04:31 PM, #84
     Reply RE: I've played several Nexuns., Graatch, 11-Jun-12 05:54 PM, #86
Reply Everyone already has their minds made up. There's no co..., Treebeard, 08-Jun-12 12:16 PM, #18
Reply Re: Nexun = Chaotic evil., Shapa, 08-Jun-12 08:58 AM, #14
Reply Am I the only one..., Tac, 08-Jun-12 08:48 AM, #13
Reply Take care of this in game., The Heretic, 08-Jun-12 08:29 AM, #11
Reply Nexus = true neutral, DurNominator, 08-Jun-12 07:07 AM, #6
Reply Irrelevant, Graatch, 08-Jun-12 07:22 AM, #7
     Reply RE: Irrelevant, Daevryn, 08-Jun-12 07:36 AM, #8
     Reply RE: Irrelevant, orangepowered, 08-Jun-12 07:58 AM, #9
     Reply Wouldn't ragers be always my enemy if I see them hit my..., DurNominator, 08-Jun-12 08:15 AM, #10
     Reply you missed half the argument, was that intentional?, laxman, 08-Jun-12 08:37 AM, #12
     Reply That's simply not true., Graatch, 08-Jun-12 10:27 AM, #15
          Reply I guess I don't know what you are trying to say, laxman, 08-Jun-12 11:12 AM, #16
          Reply RE: I guess I don't know what you are trying to say, Graatch, 08-Jun-12 11:20 AM, #17
          Reply I get what he's saying, it's the law of increasing retu..., Vladamir, 08-Jun-12 02:30 PM, #19
               Reply Everyone does., Tsunami, 08-Jun-12 02:45 PM, #20
               Reply Wrong., Alston, 08-Jun-12 07:24 PM, #23
                    Reply Well, Tsunami, 08-Jun-12 09:21 PM, #27
                         Reply Quick addition, Tsunami, 08-Jun-12 09:23 PM, #28
                              Reply The Staffs very specific enforcment of it is thus..., Alston, 08-Jun-12 10:33 PM, #30
                                   Reply That's fine by me, Tsunami, 09-Jun-12 12:28 AM, #31
                                   Reply I personally think it's the opposite., Alston, 09-Jun-12 09:04 AM, #38
                                   Reply RE: The Staffs very specific enforcment of it is thus....., Daevryn, 09-Jun-12 11:12 AM, #43
                                        Reply I understand the first half, the second half is just du..., Alston, 09-Jun-12 02:07 PM, #49
                                             Reply RE: I understand the first half, the second half is jus..., Daevryn, 09-Jun-12 06:30 PM, #54
                                                  Reply It's the soldier in me that keeps this festering., Alston, 09-Jun-12 06:52 PM, #55
                                                  Reply Possible solution, if you want to try it., Akresius, 09-Jun-12 08:13 PM, #56
                                                       Reply Do you have any idea how broad my paint brush is?, Alston, 10-Jun-12 07:44 AM, #59
                                                  Reply as Celebrimbor, I had the Marans take the key a few tim..., Vladamir, 10-Jun-12 04:28 AM, #58
               Reply RE: I get what he's saying, it's the law of increasing ..., Elerosse, 08-Jun-12 07:42 PM, #24
          Reply RE: That's simply not true., Daevryn, 09-Jun-12 06:56 AM, #35
               Reply Which doesn't forgive attrocity. n/t, Alston, 11-Jun-12 06:51 PM, #94
                    Reply You dont seem to appreciate, Artificial, 11-Jun-12 07:40 PM, #95
     Reply RE: Irrelevant, Elerosse, 08-Jun-12 07:53 PM, #25
Reply I'm starting an Occupy Pro Movement..., Welverin, 08-Jun-12 05:51 AM, #4
Reply I thought your post would be, Artificial, 08-Jun-12 07:00 AM, #5
Reply RE: I'm starting an Occupy Nexun movement., orangepowered, 07-Jun-12 11:57 PM, #3
Reply RE: I'm starting an Occupy Nexun movement., Daevryn, 07-Jun-12 08:08 PM, #1
     Reply Alright. I wasn't sure how you felt about it. I won't b..., Alston, 07-Jun-12 09:00 PM, #2
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