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SaagkriFri 14-Jun-19 04:57 PM
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#73371, "I disagree about shifters..."


          

Sure, some forms could use a boost, but what I have advocated is for shifters to be able to either a) have more power over what forms they get OR b) know sooner what forms they'll get. Not to make them more powerful, but to prevent people power-ranking shifters only to delete when they get their final forms when you could have saved them 30+ hours by letting them know at rank 30 or whatever. This is not a Saagkri-only issue. I haven't even rolled a shifter in...well, a very long time. But take Swan...whatever. He just deleted because he got what he thought were two terrible forms for him. He was a good character I enjoyed seeing around and I'll miss him. If he had gotten one of three other def forms, he'd still be playing Swan.

As for thieves, whatever you think thieves are for, a class built on stealing and not much good at anything else is a crappy class. And only one thief path is the "best at theft". That's a pickpocket. There are thug, mystic, binder, poisoner, trappers. If thieves were meant to only be the best at stealing and little else, then you'd have one path.

I don't play pickpockets, because while I like thieves (or rogues, pirates, vagabonds) I don't like to steal. So, I get the steal skill. It's not a sure thing mastered and can get me killed if I try it against someone who can bash (even if I do succeed).

  

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HOT TopicGive all thieves general skills? [View all] , Sertius, Tue 11-Jun-19 04:49 PM
Reply RE: Give all thieves general skills?, Aylosi, 28-Jul-19 05:32 AM, #43
Reply That makes them more like stealth warriors, incognito, 28-Jul-19 01:55 PM, #44
     Reply 10 points is a high cost, lasentia, 30-Jul-19 11:56 AM, #45
          Reply RE: 10 points is a high cost, incognito, 31-Jul-19 01:37 PM, #46
Reply With fewer players, thieves are less fun, Amortis, 23-Jul-19 01:34 PM, #41
Reply RE: With fewer players, thieves are less fun, Ishuli, 23-Jul-19 07:19 PM, #42
Reply RE: Give all thieves general skills?, Caecilius et al (Anonymous), 19-Jun-19 08:58 AM, #37
Reply I'd love to pick your brain., Quixotic, 20-Jun-19 12:50 PM, #38
Reply RE: I'd love to pick your brain., Caecilius et al (Anonymous), 23-Jun-19 04:08 PM, #39
Reply RE: Give all thieves general skills?, Thaedan (Anonymous), 30-Jun-19 06:27 PM, #40
Reply Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form., Saagkri, 15-Jun-19 10:05 AM, #28
Reply RE: Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form., Ishuli, 15-Jun-19 10:27 AM, #29
     Reply RE: Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form., Saagkri, 15-Jun-19 11:39 AM, #30
          Reply So you want to nerf pickpockets, Bemused, 16-Jun-19 04:45 AM, #31
               Reply Quite the contrary, Saagkri, 16-Jun-19 05:18 AM, #32
                    Reply Your butthurt is showing, Bemused, 16-Jun-19 05:22 AM, #33
                         Reply Are you having a bad day?, Saagkri, 16-Jun-19 05:44 AM, #34
Reply You all need to stop thinking that thieves should be a ..., Bemused, 14-Jun-19 06:57 PM, #23
Reply Nice straw man, Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 11:56 PM, #24
     Reply This is closer to a valid argument imo, Destuvius, 15-Jun-19 04:48 AM, #26
          Reply RE: This is closer to a valid argument imo, Saagkri, 15-Jun-19 05:48 AM, #27
Reply What exactly is it about thieves that makes everyone sa..., Destuvius, 14-Jun-19 05:09 PM, #21
Reply RE: What exactly is it about thieves that makes everyon..., Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 06:12 PM, #22
Reply RE: Give all thieves general skills?, robdarken_, 11-Jun-19 07:09 PM, #3
Reply Nah, Onewingedangel, 11-Jun-19 06:05 PM, #2
Reply I wouldn't say that is where they are strongest, incognito, 12-Jun-19 12:56 AM, #4
Reply I'm against this. NT, Ishuli, 11-Jun-19 05:09 PM, #1
     Reply That's a rather blanket statement, Sertius, 12-Jun-19 11:51 AM, #5
          Reply RE: That's a rather blanket statement, Ishuli, 12-Jun-19 02:12 PM, #6
               Reply Easy Fix, Wasted, 12-Jun-19 05:13 PM, #7
               Reply My choice would be more unpopular., Ishuli, 12-Jun-19 05:38 PM, #8
                    Reply Because that would accomplish nothing?, Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 09:37 AM, #14
                         Reply I think you and she (and you and I) just disagree about..., Mcbeth, 14-Jun-19 03:40 PM, #17
                              Reply I disagree about shifters..., Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 04:57 PM #20
               Reply What's special about a rager thief with climb?, incognito, 13-Jun-19 02:44 PM, #9
               Reply Convenience., Ishuli, 13-Jun-19 03:02 PM, #10
               Reply As someone who has had a climb rager..., Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 09:06 AM, #12
               Reply I specifically go to the Mines of Zakiim... , SPN, 13-Jun-19 10:59 PM, #11
               Reply Thieves are woefully underpowered..., Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 09:18 AM, #13
               Reply Other thing to mention is, incognito, 14-Jun-19 11:28 AM, #15
               Reply RE: Thieves are woefully underpowered..., robdarken_, 15-Jun-19 02:31 AM, #25
                    Reply Most classes can flush a thief, incognito, 16-Jun-19 02:36 PM, #35
                         Reply re threats to assassins, Quixotic, 18-Jun-19 08:50 PM, #36
               Reply Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange, Sertius, 14-Jun-19 03:36 PM, #16
                    Reply RE: Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange, Mcbeth, 14-Jun-19 03:41 PM, #18
                         Reply RE: Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange, incognito, 14-Jun-19 04:49 PM, #19
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