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SaagkriSat 15-Jun-19 11:39 AM
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#73384, "RE: Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form."
Edited on Sat 15-Jun-19 11:39 AM

          

5) Return Advanced Lockpick to it's original glory

Correct, the locks were buffed. But, the end result is the same. I suggest debuffing them.

7) (Pick Pocket) Replace warning skill with payment of the coward from Thug path

Because warning skill with deft touch makes low-risk stealing into no-risk stealing. When I played a shifter, when there was a thief on I didn't ally with, I would not be out of form in Galadon for a second. One time I was lured in by someone asking for help. Out of form for less than a tick and lost:
Staff of Wonders
Emerald Periapt
Sapphire Periapt
Notes of the Master
And a couple other items if memory serves. Never even stepped out of the shadows. Payment of the coward seems more pick-pockety than thuggy and compensates for loss of warning skill.

9) Remove the ability for mobs and PCs to be jarred awake when unconscious and being robbed (I fail more this way than just stealing while they're awake)

I always perfect steal. I fail much less often stealing from the same mob if they are awake than if they are unconscious. I suspect that the code has a base chance that they will wake if robbed while unconscious and it is HIGHER than the failure rate of steal when they are awake (and the sleep code is bypassed). If so, that makes no sense.

  

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HOT TopicGive all thieves general skills? [View all] , Sertius, Tue 11-Jun-19 04:49 PM
Reply RE: Give all thieves general skills?, Aylosi, 28-Jul-19 05:32 AM, #43
Reply That makes them more like stealth warriors, incognito, 28-Jul-19 01:55 PM, #44
     Reply 10 points is a high cost, lasentia, 30-Jul-19 11:56 AM, #45
          Reply RE: 10 points is a high cost, incognito, 31-Jul-19 01:37 PM, #46
Reply With fewer players, thieves are less fun, Amortis, 23-Jul-19 01:34 PM, #41
Reply RE: With fewer players, thieves are less fun, Ishuli, 23-Jul-19 07:19 PM, #42
Reply RE: Give all thieves general skills?, Caecilius et al (Anonymous), 19-Jun-19 08:58 AM, #37
Reply I'd love to pick your brain., Quixotic, 20-Jun-19 12:50 PM, #38
Reply RE: I'd love to pick your brain., Caecilius et al (Anonymous), 23-Jun-19 04:08 PM, #39
Reply RE: Give all thieves general skills?, Thaedan (Anonymous), 30-Jun-19 06:27 PM, #40
Reply Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form., Saagkri, 15-Jun-19 10:05 AM, #28
Reply RE: Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form., Ishuli, 15-Jun-19 10:27 AM, #29
     Reply RE: Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form., Saagkri, 15-Jun-19 11:39 AM #30
          Reply So you want to nerf pickpockets, Bemused, 16-Jun-19 04:45 AM, #31
               Reply Quite the contrary, Saagkri, 16-Jun-19 05:18 AM, #32
                    Reply Your butthurt is showing, Bemused, 16-Jun-19 05:22 AM, #33
                         Reply Are you having a bad day?, Saagkri, 16-Jun-19 05:44 AM, #34
Reply You all need to stop thinking that thieves should be a ..., Bemused, 14-Jun-19 06:57 PM, #23
Reply Nice straw man, Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 11:56 PM, #24
     Reply This is closer to a valid argument imo, Destuvius, 15-Jun-19 04:48 AM, #26
          Reply RE: This is closer to a valid argument imo, Saagkri, 15-Jun-19 05:48 AM, #27
Reply What exactly is it about thieves that makes everyone sa..., Destuvius, 14-Jun-19 05:09 PM, #21
Reply RE: What exactly is it about thieves that makes everyon..., Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 06:12 PM, #22
Reply RE: Give all thieves general skills?, robdarken_, 11-Jun-19 07:09 PM, #3
Reply Nah, Onewingedangel, 11-Jun-19 06:05 PM, #2
Reply I wouldn't say that is where they are strongest, incognito, 12-Jun-19 12:56 AM, #4
Reply I'm against this. NT, Ishuli, 11-Jun-19 05:09 PM, #1
     Reply That's a rather blanket statement, Sertius, 12-Jun-19 11:51 AM, #5
          Reply RE: That's a rather blanket statement, Ishuli, 12-Jun-19 02:12 PM, #6
               Reply Easy Fix, Wasted, 12-Jun-19 05:13 PM, #7
               Reply My choice would be more unpopular., Ishuli, 12-Jun-19 05:38 PM, #8
                    Reply Because that would accomplish nothing?, Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 09:37 AM, #14
                         Reply I think you and she (and you and I) just disagree about..., Mcbeth, 14-Jun-19 03:40 PM, #17
                              Reply I disagree about shifters..., Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 04:57 PM, #20
               Reply What's special about a rager thief with climb?, incognito, 13-Jun-19 02:44 PM, #9
               Reply Convenience., Ishuli, 13-Jun-19 03:02 PM, #10
               Reply As someone who has had a climb rager..., Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 09:06 AM, #12
               Reply I specifically go to the Mines of Zakiim... , SPN, 13-Jun-19 10:59 PM, #11
               Reply Thieves are woefully underpowered..., Saagkri, 14-Jun-19 09:18 AM, #13
               Reply Other thing to mention is, incognito, 14-Jun-19 11:28 AM, #15
               Reply RE: Thieves are woefully underpowered..., robdarken_, 15-Jun-19 02:31 AM, #25
                    Reply Most classes can flush a thief, incognito, 16-Jun-19 02:36 PM, #35
                         Reply re threats to assassins, Quixotic, 18-Jun-19 08:50 PM, #36
               Reply Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange, Sertius, 14-Jun-19 03:36 PM, #16
                    Reply RE: Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange, Mcbeth, 14-Jun-19 03:41 PM, #18
                         Reply RE: Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange, incognito, 14-Jun-19 04:49 PM, #19
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