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Saagkri | Fri 14-Jun-19 06:08 PM |
Member since 17th Jun 2014
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#73373, "RE: What exactly is it about thieves that makes everyone say they suck at hero?"
Edited on Fri 14-Jun-19 06:12 PM
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I'd love to write something up that's more comprehensive, but for now I'll just list a couple of ways they've been nerfed since the class was redone into paths.
- Used to be able to lead with weapontrip.
- Advanced lockpicking no longer opens what it used to.
- People/mobs now wake up and attack when you try to steal even after you knock them out
- Gentle walk used to be more powerful (Yes, it was probably not as intended)
- The best thief edge (DV) is just about unobtainable*
*1500 IMM XP. as a prereq. for 10 thief points. That will buy you shield block if you want it. How many hours are people usually at when they hit 1500 IMM xp if ever? Since we don't know how many edge points it takes, that means no edges until you get it. I had a thief with 2xDV years ago. Now, I assume it doesn't exist.
I know there have been others, but I'd have to dig to find out.
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 Give all thieves general skills?
[View all] , Sertius, Tue 11-Jun-19 04:49 PM
  RE: Give all thieves general skills?,
Aylosi,
28-Jul-19 05:32 AM, #43
  That makes them more like stealth warriors,
incognito,
28-Jul-19 01:55 PM, #44
10 points is a high cost,
lasentia,
30-Jul-19 11:56 AM, #45
RE: 10 points is a high cost,
incognito,
31-Jul-19 01:37 PM, #46
With fewer players, thieves are less fun,
Amortis,
23-Jul-19 01:34 PM, #41
RE: With fewer players, thieves are less fun,
Ishuli ,
23-Jul-19 07:19 PM, #42
RE: Give all thieves general skills?,
Caecilius et al (Anonymous),
19-Jun-19 08:58 AM, #37
I'd love to pick your brain.,
Quixotic,
20-Jun-19 12:50 PM, #38
RE: I'd love to pick your brain.,
Caecilius et al (Anonymous),
23-Jun-19 04:08 PM, #39
RE: Give all thieves general skills?,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
30-Jun-19 06:27 PM, #40
Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form.,
Saagkri,
15-Jun-19 10:05 AM, #28
RE: Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form.,
Ishuli,
15-Jun-19 10:27 AM, #29
RE: Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form.,
Saagkri,
15-Jun-19 11:39 AM, #30
So you want to nerf pickpockets,
Bemused,
16-Jun-19 04:45 AM, #31
Quite the contrary,
Saagkri,
16-Jun-19 05:18 AM, #32
Your butthurt is showing,
Bemused,
16-Jun-19 05:22 AM, #33
Are you having a bad day?,
Saagkri,
16-Jun-19 05:44 AM, #34
You all need to stop thinking that thieves should be a ...,
Bemused,
14-Jun-19 06:57 PM, #23
Nice straw man,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 11:56 PM, #24
This is closer to a valid argument imo,
Destuvius,
15-Jun-19 04:48 AM, #26
RE: This is closer to a valid argument imo,
Saagkri,
15-Jun-19 05:48 AM, #27
What exactly is it about thieves that makes everyone sa...,
Destuvius,
14-Jun-19 05:09 PM, #21
RE: What exactly is it about thieves that makes everyon...,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 06:12 PM #22
RE: Give all thieves general skills?,
robdarken_,
11-Jun-19 07:09 PM, #3
Nah,
Onewingedangel,
11-Jun-19 06:05 PM, #2
I wouldn't say that is where they are strongest,
incognito,
12-Jun-19 12:56 AM, #4
I'm against this. NT,
Ishuli,
11-Jun-19 05:09 PM, #1
That's a rather blanket statement,
Sertius,
12-Jun-19 11:51 AM, #5
RE: That's a rather blanket statement,
Ishuli,
12-Jun-19 02:12 PM, #6
Easy Fix,
Wasted,
12-Jun-19 05:13 PM, #7
My choice would be more unpopular.,
Ishuli,
12-Jun-19 05:38 PM, #8
Because that would accomplish nothing?,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 09:37 AM, #14
I think you and she (and you and I) just disagree about...,
Mcbeth,
14-Jun-19 03:40 PM, #17
I disagree about shifters...,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 04:57 PM, #20
What's special about a rager thief with climb?,
incognito,
13-Jun-19 02:44 PM, #9
Convenience.,
Ishuli,
13-Jun-19 03:02 PM, #10
As someone who has had a climb rager...,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 09:06 AM, #12
I specifically go to the Mines of Zakiim... ,
SPN,
13-Jun-19 10:59 PM, #11
Thieves are woefully underpowered...,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 09:18 AM, #13
Other thing to mention is,
incognito,
14-Jun-19 11:28 AM, #15
RE: Thieves are woefully underpowered...,
robdarken_,
15-Jun-19 02:31 AM, #25
Most classes can flush a thief,
incognito,
16-Jun-19 02:36 PM, #35
re threats to assassins,
Quixotic,
18-Jun-19 08:50 PM, #36
Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange,
Sertius,
14-Jun-19 03:36 PM, #16
RE: Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange,
Mcbeth,
14-Jun-19 03:41 PM, #18
RE: Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange,
incognito,
14-Jun-19 04:49 PM, #19
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