Dunsellot | Tue 27-Mar-18 08:24 PM |
Member since 25th Mar 2018
31 posts
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#70279, "RE: Deleted again"
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>Look at it this way: how long did it take you to get to where >you were before you died? Probably more than 2 hours, right? >That's called "sunk cost". Post-mob-death, you could delete, >re-roll, and re-rank back up to the same point, but it's going >to cost you more time than just ranking out of your existing >XP hole. Especially since you may need to create a brand new >description and role. That's why, to me, deleting doesn't >make much sense.
I think this quote is from the show NCIS: "a slap in the back of the head is a wake-up call. A slap in the face is an insult." I see XP loss is an insult.
>Also, consider that with a decent group, at that rank, it >should only take you around 20 minutes to get 6k XP.
Key word. Decent. I could spend a dozen paragraphs detailing how many times I showed up for groups and ended up dying to them. If I don't have a huge fondness for groups, especially at low levels with 'unknowns,' there's a damned good reason.
>Couple other things I'm be curious about: > >1. How are you dying to that mob if it isn't lagging you and >doesn't do burst damage? What was your wimpy set at? If not >at 50%, consider keeping it at 50% at all times. Were you >stacking a ton of "mend wounds" commands on top of each other >and preventing yourself from manually fleeing?
Wimpy was at 30. I did fine for about 3/4 of the fight. Wasn't spamming myself to death. Dirt, kick, kick, mend... it was doing 'hit' damage the entire time. Then, for 3 rounds it did double 'hit' damage and knocked me down to 40%. Then, it did triple 'hit' damage which went right past my wimpy to 6%, then, before I could manually flee... double 'hit' damage and dead. Meanwhile I'm trying to mend through the damage and failed 5 times in a row.
>2. You mentioned your melee attacks landing for "hit". Druids >aren't great at melee, but that still seems extreme. Possible >to wear more +DAM?
LOL. Try to solo find non-metal gear for a Druid. And to make it more fun, have the server crash so there's no 'crap' lying around. I went everywhere from the Frigid Wastes to Evermoon and back again looking for gear.
>3. How often do you think one "should" mob die? Would you >delete over a mob death at level 15? 20? 30? 40? Just >curious what your threshold is. Do you expect to hero without >ever mob dying?
The number of times is irrelevant. It's the amount of punishment you receive as a result of mob deaths. Con loss... yes, that needs to happen. CF is one of the few games out there where characters do really die and I love that concept. XP loss? That's punishment. Not only do you have to spend the time making up for that loss, it affects your PK range.
If XP loss HAS to happen, it shouldn't be 125% of your level on the first death. If I had just made level and died I would have lost %20-25% of my level. Ok.. that would piss me off but I've kept characters where I've done that. Dying just 200xp from level and getting set back a full 125%? ####. Make it based on the number of times a character has died. Your first PVE death? Ok. We're just gonna ding your con for 1/3 of a point. You die again, we'll set you back the con + 10% of your level's xp. Die 3 times? 25%. 4 times? 50%. It should be a graduated, logarithmic scale. It should NOT be a huge slap in the face every single time you pve die. Become habitual at dying? Yea, this is gonna hurt.
Whatever my excuse was for dying, one screw-up on my part, one case of lagging out in the middle of a fight, one case of your cat jumping on the keyboard and hitting ctl-alt-del, one case of fleeing from one goblin and having 2 more pop up in the room you just fled into (yep, almost died to that too) should NOT cripple your character with a PK range hit and it should not make you look at your character's XP % and even consider deleting.
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Why I have never hero'd and probably never will.
[View all] , Dunsellot, Sun 25-Mar-18 02:25 PM
Locked due to sprawl.,
Jormyr,
29-Mar-18 01:52 AM, #115
Look up PBFs of famous heroes of the past.,
Murphy,
28-Mar-18 06:30 PM, #107
RE: Look up PBFs of famous heroes of the past.,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
28-Mar-18 07:08 PM, #108
Guais |Lv 1 |Tower of Sorcery |Cook by kick nt,
Saagkri,
28-Mar-18 07:22 PM, #109
I'm jotting this down in my "painting ideas". (n/t),
Murphy,
28-Mar-18 07:47 PM, #110
Kicked out of the kitchen to death nt,
Saagkri,
28-Mar-18 07:52 PM, #111
Numbers, by themselves, can be misleading,
Bemused,
28-Mar-18 09:24 PM, #113
RE: Numbers, by themselves, can be misleading,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
28-Mar-18 10:12 PM, #114
An observation,
Bemused,
28-Mar-18 04:31 PM, #102
Ye gods man,
Daerkshyn,
28-Mar-18 10:21 AM, #81
A general reply to responses and then going silent.,
Dunsellot,
28-Mar-18 10:01 AM, #80
I'll own it. I said "your mom",
Saagkri,
28-Mar-18 10:49 AM, #82
Hilarious,
Kstatida,
28-Mar-18 11:40 AM, #84
Your mom's so fat...,
Saagkri,
28-Mar-18 11:46 AM, #87
How did I know you would find this funny?,
Dunsellot,
28-Mar-18 12:09 PM, #89
Oh, I'm sorry, I gotta respond to this.,
Dunsellot,
28-Mar-18 12:08 PM, #88
Ehh..,
Java,
28-Mar-18 12:26 PM, #90
RE: Ehh..,
Dunsellot,
28-Mar-18 01:03 PM, #91
Eh, it was borderline at best. But my point still stand...,
Java,
28-Mar-18 01:09 PM, #92
RE: Eh, it was borderline at best. But my point still s...,
Dunsellot,
28-Mar-18 01:30 PM, #93
The whole point about roleplaying games,
Java,
28-Mar-18 01:37 PM, #94
I think you know exactly what I'm talking about here n/...,
Dunsellot,
28-Mar-18 01:51 PM, #95
I do. And that's why I'm arguing with you.,
Java,
28-Mar-18 02:01 PM, #96
Wrong,
Dunsellot,
28-Mar-18 02:23 PM, #97
The first recorded "Your mom" joke was in 3500 BC.,
Java,
28-Mar-18 02:28 PM, #98
Adventurer's don't have mothers.,
Tac,
28-Mar-18 04:57 PM, #104
Adventurer's what?,
Murphy,
28-Mar-18 06:27 PM, #106
Ok...,
Saagkri,
28-Mar-18 02:36 PM, #100
Done!,
Dunsellot,
28-Mar-18 06:05 PM, #105
RE: Wrong,
robdarken_,
28-Mar-18 04:10 PM, #101
Please do. Nt,
jalbrin,
28-Mar-18 08:00 PM, #112
RE: A general reply to responses and then going silent.,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
28-Mar-18 11:35 AM, #83
Ugh.. I don't know why everyone is trying so hard to he...,
Java,
28-Mar-18 11:44 AM, #85
Boo,
Kstatida,
28-Mar-18 11:45 AM, #86
Deleted again,
Dunsellot,
27-Mar-18 06:29 PM, #49
Why didn't you just look for a group? (n/t),
Murphy,
27-Mar-18 06:23 PM, #50
RE: Why didn't you just look for a group? (n/t),
Dunsellot,
27-Mar-18 06:26 PM, #51
The only eight people online were all Imperials?,
Murphy,
27-Mar-18 06:55 PM, #53
Easier said than done n/t,
Dunsellot,
27-Mar-18 07:04 PM, #57
It is not trivial but easier than many other things in ...,
Murphy,
27-Mar-18 07:30 PM, #63
You need to ask for help IC,
Saagkri,
27-Mar-18 07:07 PM, #58
RE: Deleted again,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
27-Mar-18 07:19 PM, #60
RE: Deleted again,
Dunsellot,
27-Mar-18 08:24 PM #66
Insult? Wait till you die in PK to speak of insults.,
Murphy,
27-Mar-18 08:55 PM, #70
Wait, I just read this...,
Murphy,
27-Mar-18 09:00 PM, #71
XP/PK Range,
Seriphax,
27-Mar-18 09:19 PM, #73
RE: XP/PK Range,
Seriphax,
27-Mar-18 09:27 PM, #74
RE: Deleted again,
Illanthos,
27-Mar-18 09:41 PM, #76
RE: Deleted again,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
27-Mar-18 11:52 PM, #77
You'e not gonna make it here. Best of luck to you. nt,
k-b,
27-Mar-18 07:43 PM, #65
Thanks, I'm gonna take up self-flagellation instead. Sh...,
Dunsellot,
27-Mar-18 08:25 PM, #67
If you can't learn to manage the NPCs at those levels,
robdarken_,
27-Mar-18 08:48 PM, #69
RE: Deleted again,
Illanthos,
27-Mar-18 09:14 PM, #72
So...,
Kstatida,
28-Mar-18 04:28 AM, #79
RE: Deleted again,
incognito,
28-Mar-18 02:31 PM, #99
RE: Deleted again,
Shravthar,
28-Mar-18 04:51 PM, #103
Personal suggestion.,
Seriphax,
27-Mar-18 05:17 AM, #44
RE: Personal suggestion.,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
27-Mar-18 04:27 PM, #47
With a quick sweep of Udgaard on your way. nt,
Saagkri,
27-Mar-18 04:34 PM, #48
Been there done that too,
Dunsellot,
27-Mar-18 06:51 PM, #52
Empowerment is optional as of 2017. (n/t),
Murphy,
27-Mar-18 06:57 PM, #54
You are correct.,
Dunsellot,
27-Mar-18 07:21 PM, #61
This is going to be the least of your problems.,
Murphy,
27-Mar-18 07:32 PM, #64
RE: You are correct.,
Seriphax,
27-Mar-18 09:40 PM, #75
RE: Been there done that too,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
27-Mar-18 06:58 PM, #55
RE: Been there done that too,
Dunsellot,
27-Mar-18 07:10 PM, #59
RE: Been there done that too,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
27-Mar-18 07:23 PM, #62
RE: Been there done that too,
Dunsellot,
27-Mar-18 08:30 PM, #68
RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will.,
Wasted,
26-Mar-18 01:17 PM, #40
Keep Trucking. ,
TJHuron,
26-Mar-18 12:20 PM, #38
One of the few ways CF is like RL...,
Saagkri,
26-Mar-18 10:23 AM, #22
One of the ways CF differs from RL,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 10:27 AM, #24
RE: One of the ways CF differs from RL,
Saagkri,
26-Mar-18 10:29 AM, #25
That's the great thing about reincarnation. One day, yo...,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 10:32 AM, #26
In CF, you become Matrik instead.,
Murphy,
27-Mar-18 07:03 PM, #56
RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will.,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
26-Mar-18 08:34 AM, #7
RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will.,
incognito,
26-Mar-18 02:42 AM, #6
RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will.,
Kstatida,
26-Mar-18 10:08 AM, #18
RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will.,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 10:14 AM, #21
I don't mind,
Kstatida,
26-Mar-18 10:25 AM, #23
It's what he does.,
ice king,
26-Mar-18 10:51 AM, #31
Duly noted n/t,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 11:46 AM, #35
RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will.,
incognito,
26-Mar-18 12:34 PM, #39
RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will.,
Kstatida,
27-Mar-18 10:00 AM, #45
Seriously?,
incognito,
27-Mar-18 01:45 PM, #46
MAAAAN,
Kstatida,
28-Mar-18 04:27 AM, #78
I can see why,
Kstatida,
26-Mar-18 01:53 AM, #5
Why do you assume he is going for charred leather brace...,
SPN,
26-Mar-18 08:41 AM, #8
Rothe-hide sleeves?,
Kstatida,
26-Mar-18 09:53 AM, #14
RE: Why do you assume he is going for charred leather b...,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 10:06 AM, #17
hide didn't work,
Kstatida,
26-Mar-18 10:09 AM, #19
RE: hide didn't work,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 10:11 AM, #20
Oh you're THAT unlucky,
Kstatida,
26-Mar-18 10:32 AM, #27
You have no idea n/t,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 10:36 AM, #28
RE: I can see why,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 09:08 AM, #11
You may not expect to be,
Kstatida,
26-Mar-18 10:04 AM, #15
I suggested they get rid of that EXP hole not long ago,
enyuu,
25-Mar-18 05:49 PM, #1
get rid of it for newb flag below 30. nt,
Dallevian,
25-Mar-18 06:13 PM, #2
RE: I suggested they get rid of that EXP hole not long ...,
Dunsellot,
25-Mar-18 06:41 PM, #3
Roll a human assassin,
Sertius,
25-Mar-18 09:18 PM, #4
RE: Roll a human assassin,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
26-Mar-18 09:13 AM, #12
RE: Roll a human assassin,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 10:05 AM, #16
RE: Roll a human assassin,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
26-Mar-18 10:45 AM, #29
What is your goal with this thread?,
Mcbeth,
26-Mar-18 10:49 AM, #30
RE: What is your goal with this thread?,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 11:41 AM, #33
RE: What is your goal with this thread?,
Mcbeth,
26-Mar-18 02:09 PM, #41
You're wrong about the exp penalty,
Java,
26-Mar-18 02:43 PM, #43
RE: What is your goal with this thread?,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
26-Mar-18 11:42 AM, #34
RE: What is your goal with this thread?,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 11:51 AM, #36
RE: What is your goal with this thread?,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
26-Mar-18 11:58 AM, #37
FWIW,
Mcbeth,
26-Mar-18 02:20 PM, #42
RE: I suggested they get rid of that EXP hole not long ...,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
26-Mar-18 09:08 AM, #10
RE: I suggested they get rid of that EXP hole not long ...,
Dunsellot,
26-Mar-18 09:46 AM, #13
RE: I suggested they get rid of that EXP hole not long ...,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
26-Mar-18 10:54 AM, #32
I enjoy it.,
Matrik-,
26-Mar-18 09:03 AM, #9
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