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DunsellotMon 26-Mar-18 11:41 AM
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#70225, "RE: What is your goal with this thread?"


          

>It seems like you have an issue (getting owned at low levels)
>and have been presented with a ton of different potential
>solutions, all of which you have dismissed for various
>reasons.
>
>Everyone wants people to stick around but c'mon man if you
>don't want to be a punching bag you have to take some of the
>initiative too! Or just be a punching bag and roll with it - I
>totally disagree with what you said regarding people not
>respecting awful PKers, seems like tons of Heralds and
>Fortress characters who are objectively terrible at PK end up
>living long, well respected lives, getting leader, progressing
>through religions, doing tons of area explore stuff, and all
>in all making a lasting impact on the game.

My goal was answered with the first reply: a solution to one of the many reasons people delete, me in particular. Pre level 30 I see the xp loss to a pve death as the final straw. The con loss, I can accept. I can replace that with a train if I die 3 times. The gear loss if I don't make it back, well I've regeared before, not a huge issue. PK losses, I can live with as painful and embarrassing as they are assuming the pk'er isn't a total ass and sac's my Aldervari gear. For now, I suck at pk and know this.

The XP loss, for whatever reason, I look at that negative xp and say 'nope, screw it.' Part of that reverts back to the old way xp seriously affected PK range. I got in the habit then of seeing that as a huge deficit that made me an even bigger PK target and even now, I can't see it any differently. And I know that xp still has an effect on PK range. Last nite a character 1 lvl above me was not in PK range because they played a race that has a + to xp.

And I'm still working on the assumption that even now, the more xp deficit you accumulate and have to make up, the worse it gets. A pve death is punished by allowing even higher levels to be in your pk range.

At higher levels characters are much more able to deal with differences in pk ranges because they have the HP and the gear to take a few hits. At low levels, especially as a low con race like Dark-Elf, you're whacked dead before you can even type flee;quaff. Making it even harder for low levels to survive a gank because they got their face stomped by Tarus is one aspect of the game I can avoid with a delete/delete.

  

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HOT Locked TopicWhy I have never hero'd and probably never will. [View all] , Dunsellot, Sun 25-Mar-18 02:25 PM
Reply Locked due to sprawl., Jormyr, 29-Mar-18 01:52 AM, #115
Reply Look up PBFs of famous heroes of the past., Murphy, 28-Mar-18 06:30 PM, #107
Reply RE: Look up PBFs of famous heroes of the past., Thaedan (Anonymous), 28-Mar-18 07:08 PM, #108
     Reply Guais |Lv 1 |Tower of Sorcery |Cook by kick nt, Saagkri, 28-Mar-18 07:22 PM, #109
     Reply I'm jotting this down in my "painting ideas". (n/t), Murphy, 28-Mar-18 07:47 PM, #110
          Reply Kicked out of the kitchen to death nt, Saagkri, 28-Mar-18 07:52 PM, #111
     Reply Numbers, by themselves, can be misleading, Bemused, 28-Mar-18 09:24 PM, #113
          Reply RE: Numbers, by themselves, can be misleading, Thaedan (Anonymous), 28-Mar-18 10:12 PM, #114
Reply An observation, Bemused, 28-Mar-18 04:31 PM, #102
Reply Ye gods man, Daerkshyn, 28-Mar-18 10:21 AM, #81
Reply A general reply to responses and then going silent., Dunsellot, 28-Mar-18 10:01 AM, #80
Reply I'll own it. I said "your mom", Saagkri, 28-Mar-18 10:49 AM, #82
Reply Hilarious, Kstatida, 28-Mar-18 11:40 AM, #84
Reply Your mom's so fat..., Saagkri, 28-Mar-18 11:46 AM, #87
Reply How did I know you would find this funny?, Dunsellot, 28-Mar-18 12:09 PM, #89
Reply Oh, I'm sorry, I gotta respond to this., Dunsellot, 28-Mar-18 12:08 PM, #88
     Reply Ehh.., Java, 28-Mar-18 12:26 PM, #90
          Reply RE: Ehh.., Dunsellot, 28-Mar-18 01:03 PM, #91
               Reply Eh, it was borderline at best. But my point still stand..., Java, 28-Mar-18 01:09 PM, #92
               Reply RE: Eh, it was borderline at best. But my point still s..., Dunsellot, 28-Mar-18 01:30 PM, #93
                    Reply The whole point about roleplaying games, Java, 28-Mar-18 01:37 PM, #94
                         Reply I think you know exactly what I'm talking about here n/..., Dunsellot, 28-Mar-18 01:51 PM, #95
                              Reply I do. And that's why I'm arguing with you., Java, 28-Mar-18 02:01 PM, #96
                                   Reply Wrong, Dunsellot, 28-Mar-18 02:23 PM, #97
                                        Reply The first recorded "Your mom" joke was in 3500 BC., Java, 28-Mar-18 02:28 PM, #98
                                        Reply Adventurer's don't have mothers., Tac, 28-Mar-18 04:57 PM, #104
                                             Reply Adventurer's what?, Murphy, 28-Mar-18 06:27 PM, #106
                                        Reply Ok..., Saagkri, 28-Mar-18 02:36 PM, #100
                                        Reply Done!, Dunsellot, 28-Mar-18 06:05 PM, #105
                                        Reply RE: Wrong, robdarken_, 28-Mar-18 04:10 PM, #101
               Reply Please do. Nt, jalbrin, 28-Mar-18 08:00 PM, #112
Reply RE: A general reply to responses and then going silent., Thaedan (Anonymous), 28-Mar-18 11:35 AM, #83
Reply Ugh.. I don't know why everyone is trying so hard to he..., Java, 28-Mar-18 11:44 AM, #85
     Reply Boo, Kstatida, 28-Mar-18 11:45 AM, #86
Reply Deleted again, Dunsellot, 27-Mar-18 06:29 PM, #49
Reply Why didn't you just look for a group? (n/t), Murphy, 27-Mar-18 06:23 PM, #50
Reply RE: Why didn't you just look for a group? (n/t), Dunsellot, 27-Mar-18 06:26 PM, #51
     Reply The only eight people online were all Imperials?, Murphy, 27-Mar-18 06:55 PM, #53
          Reply Easier said than done n/t, Dunsellot, 27-Mar-18 07:04 PM, #57
               Reply It is not trivial but easier than many other things in ..., Murphy, 27-Mar-18 07:30 PM, #63
Reply You need to ask for help IC, Saagkri, 27-Mar-18 07:07 PM, #58
Reply RE: Deleted again, Thaedan (Anonymous), 27-Mar-18 07:19 PM, #60
Reply RE: Deleted again, Dunsellot, 27-Mar-18 08:24 PM, #66
     Reply Insult? Wait till you die in PK to speak of insults., Murphy, 27-Mar-18 08:55 PM, #70
     Reply Wait, I just read this..., Murphy, 27-Mar-18 09:00 PM, #71
     Reply XP/PK Range, Seriphax, 27-Mar-18 09:19 PM, #73
     Reply RE: XP/PK Range, Seriphax, 27-Mar-18 09:27 PM, #74
     Reply RE: Deleted again, Illanthos, 27-Mar-18 09:41 PM, #76
     Reply RE: Deleted again, Thaedan (Anonymous), 27-Mar-18 11:52 PM, #77
Reply You'e not gonna make it here. Best of luck to you. nt, k-b, 27-Mar-18 07:43 PM, #65
Reply Thanks, I'm gonna take up self-flagellation instead. Sh..., Dunsellot, 27-Mar-18 08:25 PM, #67
Reply If you can't learn to manage the NPCs at those levels, robdarken_, 27-Mar-18 08:48 PM, #69
Reply RE: Deleted again, Illanthos, 27-Mar-18 09:14 PM, #72
Reply So..., Kstatida, 28-Mar-18 04:28 AM, #79
Reply RE: Deleted again, incognito, 28-Mar-18 02:31 PM, #99
Reply RE: Deleted again, Shravthar, 28-Mar-18 04:51 PM, #103
Reply Personal suggestion., Seriphax, 27-Mar-18 05:17 AM, #44
Reply RE: Personal suggestion., Thaedan (Anonymous), 27-Mar-18 04:27 PM, #47
Reply With a quick sweep of Udgaard on your way. nt, Saagkri, 27-Mar-18 04:34 PM, #48
Reply Been there done that too, Dunsellot, 27-Mar-18 06:51 PM, #52
     Reply Empowerment is optional as of 2017. (n/t), Murphy, 27-Mar-18 06:57 PM, #54
     Reply You are correct., Dunsellot, 27-Mar-18 07:21 PM, #61
          Reply This is going to be the least of your problems., Murphy, 27-Mar-18 07:32 PM, #64
          Reply RE: You are correct., Seriphax, 27-Mar-18 09:40 PM, #75
     Reply RE: Been there done that too, Thaedan (Anonymous), 27-Mar-18 06:58 PM, #55
          Reply RE: Been there done that too, Dunsellot, 27-Mar-18 07:10 PM, #59
               Reply RE: Been there done that too, Thaedan (Anonymous), 27-Mar-18 07:23 PM, #62
                    Reply RE: Been there done that too, Dunsellot, 27-Mar-18 08:30 PM, #68
Reply RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will., Wasted, 26-Mar-18 01:17 PM, #40
Reply Keep Trucking. , TJHuron, 26-Mar-18 12:20 PM, #38
Reply One of the few ways CF is like RL..., Saagkri, 26-Mar-18 10:23 AM, #22
Reply One of the ways CF differs from RL, Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 10:27 AM, #24
     Reply RE: One of the ways CF differs from RL, Saagkri, 26-Mar-18 10:29 AM, #25
          Reply That's the great thing about reincarnation. One day, yo..., Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 10:32 AM, #26
               Reply In CF, you become Matrik instead., Murphy, 27-Mar-18 07:03 PM, #56
Reply RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will., Thaedan (Anonymous), 26-Mar-18 08:34 AM, #7
Reply RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will., incognito, 26-Mar-18 02:42 AM, #6
Reply RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will., Kstatida, 26-Mar-18 10:08 AM, #18
     Reply RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will., Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 10:14 AM, #21
     Reply I don't mind, Kstatida, 26-Mar-18 10:25 AM, #23
     Reply It's what he does., ice king, 26-Mar-18 10:51 AM, #31
          Reply Duly noted n/t, Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 11:46 AM, #35
     Reply RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will., incognito, 26-Mar-18 12:34 PM, #39
          Reply RE: Why I have never hero'd and probably never will., Kstatida, 27-Mar-18 10:00 AM, #45
               Reply Seriously?, incognito, 27-Mar-18 01:45 PM, #46
                    Reply MAAAAN, Kstatida, 28-Mar-18 04:27 AM, #78
Reply I can see why, Kstatida, 26-Mar-18 01:53 AM, #5
Reply Why do you assume he is going for charred leather brace..., SPN, 26-Mar-18 08:41 AM, #8
Reply Rothe-hide sleeves?, Kstatida, 26-Mar-18 09:53 AM, #14
Reply RE: Why do you assume he is going for charred leather b..., Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 10:06 AM, #17
     Reply hide didn't work, Kstatida, 26-Mar-18 10:09 AM, #19
          Reply RE: hide didn't work, Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 10:11 AM, #20
               Reply Oh you're THAT unlucky, Kstatida, 26-Mar-18 10:32 AM, #27
                    Reply You have no idea n/t, Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 10:36 AM, #28
Reply RE: I can see why, Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 09:08 AM, #11
     Reply You may not expect to be, Kstatida, 26-Mar-18 10:04 AM, #15
Reply I suggested they get rid of that EXP hole not long ago, enyuu, 25-Mar-18 05:49 PM, #1
     Reply get rid of it for newb flag below 30. nt, Dallevian, 25-Mar-18 06:13 PM, #2
     Reply RE: I suggested they get rid of that EXP hole not long ..., Dunsellot, 25-Mar-18 06:41 PM, #3
     Reply Roll a human assassin, Sertius, 25-Mar-18 09:18 PM, #4
     Reply RE: Roll a human assassin, Thaedan (Anonymous), 26-Mar-18 09:13 AM, #12
          Reply RE: Roll a human assassin, Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 10:05 AM, #16
               Reply RE: Roll a human assassin, Thaedan (Anonymous), 26-Mar-18 10:45 AM, #29
               Reply What is your goal with this thread?, Mcbeth, 26-Mar-18 10:49 AM, #30
                    Reply RE: What is your goal with this thread?, Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 11:41 AM #33
                    Reply RE: What is your goal with this thread?, Mcbeth, 26-Mar-18 02:09 PM, #41
                    Reply You're wrong about the exp penalty, Java, 26-Mar-18 02:43 PM, #43
                    Reply RE: What is your goal with this thread?, Thaedan (Anonymous), 26-Mar-18 11:42 AM, #34
                         Reply RE: What is your goal with this thread?, Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 11:51 AM, #36
                              Reply RE: What is your goal with this thread?, Thaedan (Anonymous), 26-Mar-18 11:58 AM, #37
                                   Reply FWIW, Mcbeth, 26-Mar-18 02:20 PM, #42
     Reply RE: I suggested they get rid of that EXP hole not long ..., Thaedan (Anonymous), 26-Mar-18 09:08 AM, #10
          Reply RE: I suggested they get rid of that EXP hole not long ..., Dunsellot, 26-Mar-18 09:46 AM, #13
               Reply RE: I suggested they get rid of that EXP hole not long ..., Thaedan (Anonymous), 26-Mar-18 10:54 AM, #32
     Reply I enjoy it., Matrik-, 26-Mar-18 09:03 AM, #9
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