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GaplemoThu 08-Jan-15 04:18 AM
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#57856, "Actually I disagree. Daev really deserves some slack."


          

The guy is a decent imm. And I seriously, seriously doubt he cares to do anything like Cabdru again. That was his one silent wrecking ball, he made the area, he had some fun, he accidentally outed himself, people were pissed, there was a big fallout, and its over guys.

People need to stop bitching about Cabdru. Its pathetic, it was 10 years ago, and if you have to hold onto that, you're probably going to be an unhappy guy the rest of the time you CF, just let that #### go and concentrate on how to make the game better for the FUTURE.


Anybody that thinks Daev didn't play Zorszaul as well is crazy, it's no secret who he was. I am not accusing Zorszaul of cheating (like cabdru was claimed to do by using abomination to drain mobs mana, instantly killing them when it ran out due to a bug). He was just a suped up lich with imm knowledge of parts of hell only an imm could have known of back then (other than the people that went on the istendil trip with him) Baalzebub has only been killed 3 times and two of those were his liches, one was my group. I wouldn't call Zorszaul a cheater, or Istendil, or any of his other probably 100 other characters that have had a positive impact on many people over the years. The only questionable one is Cabdru, and I think its time people let that crap go. Not everyone, but almost everyone that has ever played CF, has cheated in some way. Some big, some small, with the rare guy thats never ever even crossed the line once, but ####, everyones cheated to some degree over the last 18 or whatever years we've been rocking it. So don't chuck stones if you know you've been shady before too. I sure know I've been in trouble once or twice.


Yeah, so some imms have played some suped up characters. Did anyone actually interact with Cabdru? His roleplay was immaculate and he was REALLY fun to be around if he wasn't slaughtering you. And Zorszaul? Easily the best roleplayed character the game has ever seen, the mud was MUCH better when he was around weather or not you could kill him, his presence made #### fun. Istendil was just plain awesome, and my favorite character of all time. Did anyone read his series he put out a while ago, the story of Istendil? The writing was pretty sick.

Keep in mind, all this is like, 10+ years ago guys. Different game, different time. None of that crap is going on in todays CF, so why don't we worry about how we are gonna make the game better for today, instead of bitching about what people did 10 years ago like children. And Daev is no slouch, he is one of the best playerkillers ever to walk the game. Istendil was great. His conjie in scion was great. His rager was great. His elf warrior was great. Stop bitching everyone, because I would much rather Daev be running a mortal than not running one. And I seriously doubt he is suping his chars up. He's just a solid player with slightly more mechanic knowledge than we are gonna have. Perks of spending your life running a free game for other people to enjoy, you're gonna know more about it.

Daev is WAY more good for the game than bad. And trust me, me and him do not see eye to eye very often, I'm not even sure the guy likes me. If he could describe me in one word I'm not so sure he wouldn't use jackass as that word. So I have no reason to white knight him other than I think people need to stop crying about stuff from a decade ago.

  

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Reply Thread locked for sprawl., Valguarnera, 10-Jan-15 11:00 AM, #154
Reply I feel the game is more steered towards power gaming no..., Cenatar_, 06-Jan-15 09:15 PM, #4
Reply RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin..., Bemused, 06-Jan-15 09:36 PM, #5
Reply RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin..., Umiron, 06-Jan-15 10:43 PM, #9
     Reply "One Area", Sarien, 07-Jan-15 08:24 AM, #13
          Reply This was already answered, Artificial, 07-Jan-15 08:43 AM, #14
          Reply It isn't as 'Easy' as you make it sound, Sarien, 07-Jan-15 08:50 AM, #16
               Reply You're likely wrong to a degree., lasentia, 07-Jan-15 10:03 AM, #19
               Reply Thank you., Mendos, 07-Jan-15 07:01 PM, #29
                    Reply Silent is giant can of worms. Why I think it's bad for..., TMNS, 07-Jan-15 07:14 PM, #31
                         Reply Apparently it is a can of worms from some player's pers..., Mendos, 07-Jan-15 08:21 PM, #35
                              Reply Re: Silent being closed..., TMNS, 07-Jan-15 08:25 PM, #37
                                   Reply RE: Re: Silent being closed..., Mendos, 07-Jan-15 08:56 PM, #38
                                   Reply Doesn't really make sense there., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 09:05 PM, #40
                                   Reply Not really., Mendos, 07-Jan-15 09:31 PM, #44
                                        Reply That's fine., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 09:31 PM, #45
                                             Reply Well this has been a particularly bad week., Mendos, 07-Jan-15 10:02 PM, #48
                                             Reply Let me give you some tips on how to be prosperous., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 10:13 PM, #50
                                             Reply Wait what why am I on that list, KaguMaru, 08-Jan-15 05:50 AM, #99
                                                  Reply RE: Wait what why am I on that list, Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 11:22 AM, #103
                                   Reply RE: Re: Silent being closed..., Cenatar_, 07-Jan-15 11:50 PM, #80
                                   Reply Wait a second..., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 08:38 PM, #39
                                   Reply I didn't "turn in" anyone., TMNS, 07-Jan-15 09:10 PM, #41
                                        Reply RE: I didn't , Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 09:10 PM, #42
                                             Reply Meh. My brother full-looted one of my best chars ever., TMNS, 07-Jan-15 09:15 PM, #43
                                                  Reply See there., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 10:08 PM, #51
                                                       Reply I think you became Grand Master right there. NT, TMNS, 07-Jan-15 10:59 PM, #61
                                                            Reply became?, Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 11:05 PM, #64
                                   Reply RE: Re: Silent being closed..., Daevryn, 07-Jan-15 11:25 PM, #71
                                        Reply So you leave it for baer followers to use., Aereglen, 08-Jan-15 01:05 PM, #105
                                             Reply I have never followed Baer, ever., Mendos, 08-Jan-15 05:41 PM, #106
                                             Reply Another way to look at it..., Umiron, 08-Jan-15 06:02 PM, #107
                                                  Reply Thanks Umi, Bemused, 08-Jan-15 08:02 PM, #112
               Reply My last what.... Dozen characters have had 2k + by lev..., Demos, 07-Jan-15 10:49 PM, #58
               Reply I have never sucked IMM a$$ and never had problems gett..., TheProphet1, 09-Jan-15 08:42 AM, #129
                    Reply Fantastic suggestions - however they do not fit the 'RP..., Sarien, 09-Jan-15 09:21 AM, #131
                         Reply Rebuttal, TheProphet1, 09-Jan-15 06:58 PM, #148
          Reply RE: "One Area", Umiron, 07-Jan-15 09:43 AM, #17
          Reply You should take me seriously., Sarien, 07-Jan-15 10:02 AM, #18
          Reply RE: You should take me seriously., Umiron, 07-Jan-15 10:30 AM, #20
               Reply What?, Sarien, 07-Jan-15 10:55 AM, #21
               Reply RE: What?, Destuvius, 07-Jan-15 11:12 AM, #22
                    Reply I think he means that he did, but no longer does, KaguMaru, 07-Jan-15 11:21 AM, #23
                    Reply Answer:, Sarien, 07-Jan-15 11:21 AM, #24
                    Reply He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Aereglen, 07-Jan-15 07:13 PM, #30
                         Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Destuvius, 07-Jan-15 08:00 PM, #34
                         Reply One thing..., TMNS, 07-Jan-15 08:20 PM, #36
                         Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Aereglen, 07-Jan-15 10:25 PM, #53
                              Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 10:33 PM, #54
                                   Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Aereglen, 07-Jan-15 10:57 PM, #60
                                   Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 11:02 PM, #62
                                        Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Aereglen, 07-Jan-15 11:19 PM, #69
                                             Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 11:28 PM, #73
                                                  Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Aereglen, 07-Jan-15 11:42 PM, #79
                                                       Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 11:47 PM, #100
                                                       Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Aereglen, 08-Jan-15 12:07 AM, #84
                                                       Reply RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that., Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 12:13 AM, #101
                                   Reply This post makes a lot of sense., Zephon, 07-Jan-15 11:07 PM, #66
                                        Reply Thanks man., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 11:20 PM, #70
                         Reply Ok so..., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 10:17 PM, #52
                              Reply When they actually admit it was wrong to do., Aereglen, 07-Jan-15 10:46 PM, #57
                                   Reply I see..., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 10:53 PM, #59
                                   Reply He doesn't play the same game., Aereglen, 07-Jan-15 11:05 PM, #63
                                        Reply RE: He doesn't play the same game., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 11:07 PM, #65
                                             Reply RE: He doesn't play the same game., Aereglen, 07-Jan-15 11:27 PM, #72
                                                  Reply RE: He doesn't play the same game., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 11:29 PM, #74
                                                  Reply RE: He doesn't play the same game., Aereglen, 08-Jan-15 12:11 AM, #85
                                                       Reply Cop out., Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 12:17 AM, #87
                                                       Reply RE: Cop out., Aereglen, 08-Jan-15 12:32 AM, #89
                                                       Reply RE: Cop out., Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 12:37 AM, #90
                                                       Reply RE: Cop out., Aereglen, 08-Jan-15 12:44 AM, #91
                                                       Reply RE: Cop out., Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 12:53 AM, #92
                                                       Reply RE: Cop out., Aereglen, 08-Jan-15 01:10 AM, #95
                                                       Reply No consequence?, Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 06:16 PM, #108
                                                  Reply Actually I disagree. Daev really deserves some slack., Gaplemo, 08-Jan-15 04:18 AM #96
                                                       Reply So, funny story., TMNS, 08-Jan-15 04:47 AM, #97
                                                       Reply Forget it., Aereglen, 08-Jan-15 05:29 AM, #98
                                                            Reply This post, Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 11:25 AM, #104
                                                            Reply Oh now I see..., Tsunami, 09-Jan-15 01:08 AM, #125
                                   Reply RE: When they actually admit it was wrong to do., Daevryn, 08-Jan-15 06:39 PM, #109
                                        Reply That's just....wrong., Jormyr, 08-Jan-15 07:48 PM, #110
                                        Reply Oddly enough, Shams and Graatch give Nepenthe problems...., TMNS, 08-Jan-15 08:01 PM, #111
                                        Reply Team five:, Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 08:16 PM, #114
                                        Reply RE: Oddly enough, Shams and Graatch give Nepenthe probl..., Bemused, 08-Jan-15 08:16 PM, #115
                                        Reply I think you were gone when..., TMNS, 09-Jan-15 03:29 AM, #128
                                             Reply Duh, you want me. To bring you all sick gear., Gaplemo, 09-Jan-15 06:21 PM, #147
                                        Reply RE: Oddly enough, Shams and Graatch give Nepenthe probl..., Destuvius, 08-Jan-15 09:18 PM, #118
                                        Reply I was impressed with your PK as a mort!, TMNS, 09-Jan-15 12:02 AM, #120
                                        Reply The only way I give Nep problems..., TheBluestThumb, 09-Jan-15 01:08 AM, #124
                                             Reply That's exactly why you are there!, TMNS, 09-Jan-15 01:59 AM, #127
                                             Reply RE: The only way I give Nep problems..., Daevryn, 09-Jan-15 09:16 AM, #130
                                        Reply Simple answer, Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 08:14 PM, #113
                                        Reply I'd love to have this happen, Artificial, 08-Jan-15 08:31 PM, #116
                                        Reply I am curious, Artificial, 08-Jan-15 08:32 PM, #117
                                        Reply RE: I am curious, Daevryn, 08-Jan-15 09:39 PM, #119
                                             Reply You're relatively easy to spot because you are too low-..., TMNS, 09-Jan-15 12:05 AM, #121
                                             Reply Telnet!? , TJHuron, 09-Jan-15 12:50 AM, #122
                                             Reply RE: Telnet!? , Daevryn, 09-Jan-15 10:56 AM, #136
                                                  Reply It's official, Nep is actually an IA with built in tele..., KoeKhaos, 09-Jan-15 12:29 PM, #140
                                                  Reply So you don't subscribe to the Jerry method of gearing B..., TJHuron, 09-Jan-15 02:02 PM, #141
                                                  Reply RE: So you don't subscribe to the Jerry method of geari..., Daevryn, 09-Jan-15 02:12 PM, #142
                                                  Reply Since we are asking reasonable questions., Gaplemo, 09-Jan-15 06:16 PM, #146
                                                       Reply Z could have been a guy who later IMM'd at CF-derivativ..., TMNS, 09-Jan-15 07:44 PM, #150
                                                       Reply Not really no., Gaplemo, 09-Jan-15 07:52 PM, #151
                                                       Reply I actually talked to Dioxide about this, Dallevian, 09-Jan-15 08:05 PM, #152
                                             Reply RE: I am curious, Jaegendar, 09-Jan-15 01:05 AM, #123
                                             Reply But you did play OP w-elf sword zerker., Dallevian, 09-Jan-15 09:45 AM, #133
                                                  Reply RE: But you did play OP w-elf sword zerker., Daevryn, 09-Jan-15 10:39 AM, #135
                                        Reply I meant to say cheated, not cheats., Aereglen, 09-Jan-15 01:28 AM, #126
                                             Reply RE: I meant to say cheated, not cheats., Daevryn, 09-Jan-15 10:38 AM, #134
                                                  Reply RE: I meant to say cheated, not cheats., N b M, 09-Jan-15 10:46 AM, #137
                                                  Reply To add something else, N b M, 09-Jan-15 11:48 AM, #139
                                                  Reply RE: I meant to say cheated, not cheats., Aereglen, 09-Jan-15 02:55 PM, #143
                                                  Reply For me, here's your scorecard..., TMNS, 09-Jan-15 03:55 PM, #144
                                                       Reply Confused on the perma thing, Rayihn, 09-Jan-15 06:06 PM, #145
                                                            Reply Mostly in the past yeah., TMNS, 09-Jan-15 07:48 PM, #149
                                                                 Reply RE: Mostly in the past yeah., Rayihn, 09-Jan-15 11:50 PM, #153
               Reply Umi? Baby!, Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 09:38 PM, #46
          Reply Look at it from our perspective?, Cenatar_, 07-Jan-15 06:30 PM, #28
               Reply All you needed was the first three sentences., TMNS, 07-Jan-15 07:17 PM, #33
               Reply Bro., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 09:54 PM, #49
               Reply To Be Fair, Bemused, 07-Jan-15 10:35 PM, #55
               Reply ...what?, Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 10:45 PM, #56
                    Reply S-MUG., TMNS, 07-Jan-15 11:09 PM, #67
                         Reply I'm not sure that I want to..., Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 11:14 PM, #68
                         Reply Lol Proud Blade, Gaplemo, 08-Jan-15 12:13 AM, #86
                              Reply Right on., Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 12:17 AM, #88
               Reply Does it matter that it was long ago if it is seen as al..., Cenatar_, 07-Jan-15 11:41 PM, #78
                    Reply Do they need to?, Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 11:52 PM, #81
                         Reply RE: Do they need to?, Cenatar_, 08-Jan-15 12:00 AM, #82
                              Reply RE: Do they need to?, Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 12:02 AM, #83
               Reply RE: Look at it from our perspective?, Daevryn, 07-Jan-15 11:30 PM, #75
                    Reply Hey pal, Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 11:34 PM, #76
                    Reply I'm not complaining, Cenatar_, 07-Jan-15 11:47 PM, #77
                         Reply RE: I'm not complaining, Jaegendar, 08-Jan-15 12:58 AM, #93
                              Reply Preach it brother., Tsunami, 08-Jan-15 01:00 AM, #94
          Reply RE: , Bemused, 07-Jan-15 09:44 PM, #47
Reply RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin..., Umiron, 06-Jan-15 09:39 PM, #6
     Reply RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin..., Cenatar_, 06-Jan-15 10:23 PM, #7
     Reply RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin..., Umiron, 06-Jan-15 10:35 PM, #8
          Reply Really wish that silent exp requirement would half, Current leader (Anonymous), 07-Jan-15 04:39 AM, #10
          Reply RE: Really wish that silent exp requirement would half, Different Current Leader (Anonymous), 07-Jan-15 08:43 AM, #15
               Reply The problem is it creates a huge imbalance., Current leader (Anonymous), 07-Jan-15 02:10 PM, #25
                    Reply This is spot on., Sarien, 07-Jan-15 03:18 PM, #26
                    Reply Gated, Tsunami, 07-Jan-15 04:13 PM, #27
                    Reply IMMs please look at this post, he's got it right. nt, Aereglen, 07-Jan-15 07:15 PM, #32
                    Reply I will echo again, most CF players suck at assessing va..., laxman, 08-Jan-15 10:42 AM, #102
                         Reply Not true, incognito, 09-Jan-15 09:27 AM, #132
                              Reply Edge case vs common case, laxman, 09-Jan-15 11:22 AM, #138
          Reply I heroed a warrior once with less than 90% parry. And t..., KaguMaru, 07-Jan-15 05:15 AM, #12
     Reply You're doing practice wrong, KaguMaru, 07-Jan-15 05:11 AM, #11
Reply I think the sentiment is nice but..., Eskelian, 06-Jan-15 01:16 PM, #2
Reply I posted something on the OT forum about "Playing Catch..., Tac, 06-Jan-15 02:17 PM, #3
Reply As a veteran since 1995 and not a newbie, I totally agr..., Polmier (Anonymous), 06-Jan-15 09:32 AM, #1
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