Tsunami | Wed 07-Jan-15 11:02 PM |
Member since 25th Mar 2008
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#57816, "RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that."
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>>>"I think that the whole argument that following a god >>>automatically gets you piles of imm xp is not exactly valid >>in >>>all cases. Yes, in a lot of cases it is. Partially because >>>most characters who follow a god tend to have a higher >level >>>of RP than a lot of characters who do not follow a god. >>>Whether that is a fault of ours (as the imms) or a fault of >>>the players is hard to say." >>> >>>It doesn't matter who is to blame, that's not the point. >>The >>>point is we're trying to help and we're met with "bu-bye." >> >>You were met with honest answers and well said explanations. >>At some point "nuh uh, you" "nuh uh, you" one party must say >>"ok, im done." If you don't like the expalantion, it doesn't >>mean the other reasoning is wrong. We certainly don't need >any >>more chiefs either, so deal with it. > >Honest answers and well said explanations? Where? The same >"no" repeated in slightly different words doesn't cut it.
What form of "no" would convince you (or Sarien) that you're wrong? Or are you saying that you refuse to accept you might be wrong? That seems like a pretty poor attitude to start from.
> >> >> >>>"Maybe its cause I'm still fairly new as an imm, but I >don't >>>think anyone has ever said that there is no reason for >>>complaints. What I can say though is that in most instances >>we >>> the staff) take a very calm and collected stance in our >>>responses to you (the players) and we are often met with >>hate >>>for it. Is our system perfect? Nope, but I think that it >>works >>>far better than most people give us credit for." >>> >>>Like I said, nobody says it, but many acts as though the >>>players are out of line for complaining. It's what is not >>>said, it's the questions that are not answered, and it's >the >>>attitude we meet. Not everyone who argues with someone on >>the >>>immstaff hates them, but we often feel hated from square >one. >> >>>If someone argues with the immstaff they had better come >>>waving a white flag with their tail between their legs and >>had >>>better be ready to get their nose brown. Otherwise they're >>>likely to be dismissed or worse punished. Not always, but >>>very likely. >> >>There are plenty of examples on these very boards and even >>THIS thread of cool-headed people discussing a topic with >>civility. I argue with immortals the same way I argue with >any >>of the players. I don't feel like any of them hate me. If >you >>feel like they hate you, I'd guess you're imagining things >or >>you're a ####ing cheater. I've never been dismissed or >>punished. Aside from losing newbie channel privileges >because >>some immortal is jealous of my cleverness. > >Good for you. Everyone else, is not you.
You can be just like me if you want. Nothing stopping you. Well, there is that pesky delusion that everyone is out to get you. Medication might help. I'm not doing anything special or hard here.
>> >>>"Your response to me is a perfect example of it. Does it >>>actually accomplish anything when you take a potshot at me >> or >>>the rest of the staff) when I am attempting to have a >>dialogue >>>with people over an issue? When we constantly have cries >>from >>>our players that they want to be treated fair, I think that >>>its only reasonable to ask that we (as the staff) are also >>>treated fairly." >>> >>>If anything, my response was returning fire to your potshot >>at >>>Sarien. It was clear what he said. A response of sarcasm >>and >>>nothing more is hardly attempting to have a civil dialogue. > >>>It goes both ways. >> >>It was quite clear what he said. His tone was not however. I >>too read his tone as escalating anger, though so too did I >>read Umiron's as such. I suspect neither really meant to >>insult the other's sensibilities intentionally. I also >>understand Umiron may have misread him slightly (god forbid, >>holy mother of god protect me from someone misreading my >>post!) You would THINK that a bunch of nerds who play a text >>based game would understand how and when this sort of thing >>happens. >> > >Yes, it was quite clear what he said, whether or not he had a >tone of anger is irrelevant. There is no misreading. A >sarcastic response did not help, it did the opposite.
Whether or not he had a tone of anger was very relevant. He can't have a tone of anger and not expect a response bearing a tone of anger. Paid or volunteer, no one has to put up with some nancy's ####.
Furthermore, angry responses don't help anymore than sarcastic ones.
#rekt
PS: Thanks Rhlydarn. I use this all the time now "What's up dude? Pound sign WRECKED bro"
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Am I the only one who actually LIKES the direction the ...
[View all] , Doof, Thu 08-Jan-15 08:03 AM
Thread locked for sprawl.,
Valguarnera,
10-Jan-15 11:00 AM, #154
I feel the game is more steered towards power gaming no...,
Cenatar_,
06-Jan-15 09:15 PM, #4
RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin...,
Bemused,
06-Jan-15 09:36 PM, #5
RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin...,
Umiron,
06-Jan-15 10:43 PM, #9
"One Area",
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 08:24 AM, #13
This was already answered,
Artificial,
07-Jan-15 08:43 AM, #14
It isn't as 'Easy' as you make it sound,
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 08:50 AM, #16
You're likely wrong to a degree.,
lasentia,
07-Jan-15 10:03 AM, #19
Thank you.,
Mendos,
07-Jan-15 07:01 PM, #29
Silent is giant can of worms. Why I think it's bad for...,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 07:14 PM, #31
Apparently it is a can of worms from some player's pers...,
Mendos,
07-Jan-15 08:21 PM, #35
Re: Silent being closed...,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 08:25 PM, #37
RE: Re: Silent being closed...,
Mendos,
07-Jan-15 08:56 PM, #38
Doesn't really make sense there.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 09:05 PM, #40
Not really.,
Mendos,
07-Jan-15 09:31 PM, #44
That's fine.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 09:31 PM, #45
Well this has been a particularly bad week.,
Mendos,
07-Jan-15 10:02 PM, #48
Let me give you some tips on how to be prosperous.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:13 PM, #50
Wait what why am I on that list,
KaguMaru,
08-Jan-15 05:50 AM, #99
RE: Wait what why am I on that list,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 11:22 AM, #103
RE: Re: Silent being closed...,
Cenatar_,
07-Jan-15 11:50 PM, #80
Wait a second...,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 08:38 PM, #39
I didn't "turn in" anyone.,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 09:10 PM, #41
RE: I didn't ,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 09:10 PM, #42
Meh. My brother full-looted one of my best chars ever.,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 09:15 PM, #43
See there.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:08 PM, #51
I think you became Grand Master right there. NT,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 10:59 PM, #61
became?,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:05 PM, #64
RE: Re: Silent being closed...,
Daevryn,
07-Jan-15 11:25 PM, #71
So you leave it for baer followers to use.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 01:05 PM, #105
I have never followed Baer, ever.,
Mendos,
08-Jan-15 05:41 PM, #106
Another way to look at it...,
Umiron,
08-Jan-15 06:02 PM, #107
Thanks Umi,
Bemused,
08-Jan-15 08:02 PM, #112
My last what.... Dozen characters have had 2k + by lev...,
Demos,
07-Jan-15 10:49 PM, #58
I have never sucked IMM a$$ and never had problems gett...,
TheProphet1,
09-Jan-15 08:42 AM, #129
Fantastic suggestions - however they do not fit the 'RP...,
Sarien,
09-Jan-15 09:21 AM, #131
Rebuttal,
TheProphet1,
09-Jan-15 06:58 PM, #148
RE: "One Area",
Umiron,
07-Jan-15 09:43 AM, #17
You should take me seriously.,
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 10:02 AM, #18
RE: You should take me seriously.,
Umiron,
07-Jan-15 10:30 AM, #20
What?,
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 10:55 AM, #21
RE: What?,
Destuvius,
07-Jan-15 11:12 AM, #22
I think he means that he did, but no longer does,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 11:21 AM, #23
Answer:,
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 11:21 AM, #24
He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 07:13 PM, #30
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Destuvius,
07-Jan-15 08:00 PM, #34
One thing...,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 08:20 PM, #36
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 10:25 PM, #53
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:33 PM, #54
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 10:57 PM, #60
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:02 PM #62
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 11:19 PM, #69
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:28 PM, #73
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 11:42 PM, #79
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:47 PM, #100
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 12:07 AM, #84
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:13 AM, #101
This post makes a lot of sense.,
Zephon,
07-Jan-15 11:07 PM, #66
Thanks man.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:20 PM, #70
Ok so...,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:17 PM, #52
When they actually admit it was wrong to do.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 10:46 PM, #57
I see...,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:53 PM, #59
He doesn't play the same game.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 11:05 PM, #63
RE: He doesn't play the same game.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:07 PM, #65
RE: He doesn't play the same game.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 11:27 PM, #72
RE: He doesn't play the same game.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:29 PM, #74
RE: He doesn't play the same game.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 12:11 AM, #85
Cop out.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:17 AM, #87
RE: Cop out.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 12:32 AM, #89
RE: Cop out.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:37 AM, #90
RE: Cop out.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 12:44 AM, #91
RE: Cop out.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:53 AM, #92
RE: Cop out.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 01:10 AM, #95
No consequence?,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 06:16 PM, #108
Actually I disagree. Daev really deserves some slack.,
Gaplemo,
08-Jan-15 04:18 AM, #96
So, funny story.,
TMNS,
08-Jan-15 04:47 AM, #97
Forget it.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 05:29 AM, #98
This post,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 11:25 AM, #104
Oh now I see...,
Tsunami,
09-Jan-15 01:08 AM, #125
RE: When they actually admit it was wrong to do.,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-15 06:39 PM, #109
That's just....wrong.,
Jormyr,
08-Jan-15 07:48 PM, #110
Oddly enough, Shams and Graatch give Nepenthe problems....,
TMNS,
08-Jan-15 08:01 PM, #111
Team five:,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 08:16 PM, #114
RE: Oddly enough, Shams and Graatch give Nepenthe probl...,
Bemused,
08-Jan-15 08:16 PM, #115
I think you were gone when...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 03:29 AM, #128
Duh, you want me. To bring you all sick gear.,
Gaplemo,
09-Jan-15 06:21 PM, #147
RE: Oddly enough, Shams and Graatch give Nepenthe probl...,
Destuvius,
08-Jan-15 09:18 PM, #118
I was impressed with your PK as a mort!,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 12:02 AM, #120
The only way I give Nep problems...,
TheBluestThumb,
09-Jan-15 01:08 AM, #124
That's exactly why you are there!,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 01:59 AM, #127
RE: The only way I give Nep problems...,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-15 09:16 AM, #130
Simple answer,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 08:14 PM, #113
I'd love to have this happen,
Artificial,
08-Jan-15 08:31 PM, #116
I am curious,
Artificial,
08-Jan-15 08:32 PM, #117
RE: I am curious,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-15 09:39 PM, #119
You're relatively easy to spot because you are too low-...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 12:05 AM, #121
Telnet!? ,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-15 12:50 AM, #122
RE: Telnet!? ,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-15 10:56 AM, #136
It's official, Nep is actually an IA with built in tele...,
KoeKhaos,
09-Jan-15 12:29 PM, #140
So you don't subscribe to the Jerry method of gearing B...,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-15 02:02 PM, #141
RE: So you don't subscribe to the Jerry method of geari...,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-15 02:12 PM, #142
Since we are asking reasonable questions.,
Gaplemo,
09-Jan-15 06:16 PM, #146
Z could have been a guy who later IMM'd at CF-derivativ...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 07:44 PM, #150
Not really no.,
Gaplemo,
09-Jan-15 07:52 PM, #151
I actually talked to Dioxide about this,
Dallevian,
09-Jan-15 08:05 PM, #152
RE: I am curious,
Jaegendar,
09-Jan-15 01:05 AM, #123
But you did play OP w-elf sword zerker.,
Dallevian,
09-Jan-15 09:45 AM, #133
RE: But you did play OP w-elf sword zerker.,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-15 10:39 AM, #135
I meant to say cheated, not cheats.,
Aereglen,
09-Jan-15 01:28 AM, #126
RE: I meant to say cheated, not cheats.,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-15 10:38 AM, #134
RE: I meant to say cheated, not cheats.,
N b M,
09-Jan-15 10:46 AM, #137
To add something else,
N b M,
09-Jan-15 11:48 AM, #139
RE: I meant to say cheated, not cheats.,
Aereglen,
09-Jan-15 02:55 PM, #143
For me, here's your scorecard...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 03:55 PM, #144
Confused on the perma thing,
Rayihn,
09-Jan-15 06:06 PM, #145
Mostly in the past yeah.,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 07:48 PM, #149
RE: Mostly in the past yeah.,
Rayihn,
09-Jan-15 11:50 PM, #153
Umi? Baby!,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 09:38 PM, #46
Look at it from our perspective?,
Cenatar_,
07-Jan-15 06:30 PM, #28
All you needed was the first three sentences.,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 07:17 PM, #33
Bro.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 09:54 PM, #49
To Be Fair,
Bemused,
07-Jan-15 10:35 PM, #55
...what?,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:45 PM, #56
S-MUG.,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 11:09 PM, #67
I'm not sure that I want to...,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:14 PM, #68
Lol Proud Blade,
Gaplemo,
08-Jan-15 12:13 AM, #86
Right on.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:17 AM, #88
Does it matter that it was long ago if it is seen as al...,
Cenatar_,
07-Jan-15 11:41 PM, #78
Do they need to?,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:52 PM, #81
RE: Do they need to?,
Cenatar_,
08-Jan-15 12:00 AM, #82
RE: Do they need to?,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:02 AM, #83
RE: Look at it from our perspective?,
Daevryn,
07-Jan-15 11:30 PM, #75
Hey pal,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:34 PM, #76
I'm not complaining,
Cenatar_,
07-Jan-15 11:47 PM, #77
RE: I'm not complaining,
Jaegendar,
08-Jan-15 12:58 AM, #93
Preach it brother.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 01:00 AM, #94
RE: ,
Bemused,
07-Jan-15 09:44 PM, #47
RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin...,
Umiron,
06-Jan-15 09:39 PM, #6
RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin...,
Cenatar_,
06-Jan-15 10:23 PM, #7
RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin...,
Umiron,
06-Jan-15 10:35 PM, #8
Really wish that silent exp requirement would half,
Current leader (Anonymous),
07-Jan-15 04:39 AM, #10
RE: Really wish that silent exp requirement would half,
Different Current Leader (Anonymous),
07-Jan-15 08:43 AM, #15
The problem is it creates a huge imbalance.,
Current leader (Anonymous),
07-Jan-15 02:10 PM, #25
This is spot on.,
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 03:18 PM, #26
Gated,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 04:13 PM, #27
IMMs please look at this post, he's got it right. nt,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 07:15 PM, #32
I will echo again, most CF players suck at assessing va...,
laxman,
08-Jan-15 10:42 AM, #102
Not true,
incognito,
09-Jan-15 09:27 AM, #132
Edge case vs common case,
laxman,
09-Jan-15 11:22 AM, #138
I heroed a warrior once with less than 90% parry. And t...,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 05:15 AM, #12
You're doing practice wrong,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 05:11 AM, #11
I think the sentiment is nice but...,
Eskelian,
06-Jan-15 01:16 PM, #2
I posted something on the OT forum about "Playing Catch...,
Tac,
06-Jan-15 02:17 PM, #3
As a veteran since 1995 and not a newbie, I totally agr...,
Polmier (Anonymous),
06-Jan-15 09:32 AM, #1
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