lasentia | Wed 07-Jan-15 10:03 AM |
Member since 27th Apr 2010
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#57744, "You're likely wrong to a degree."
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Toning down the requirements is what most would argue for, not removing them entirely. Some people know lots about the area, most people know squat, and going there can seriously F*** a char. (remember the lich that age died there not long ago?) If there are zero reqs to enter the place, how many power gamers would roll throw aways to learn the area, just so they could then gain a PK advantage with ST gear with future characters?
Per your own post, you still wouldn't explore it, so the PK inequities ST allegedly creates (nice gear is far less scary to me than a competent PKer) would only be more evident against the players who don't go there.
2000 might be a little high with the split off from Role xp, but that's not our call as players. If anything, it makes it all the rarer for people to go there, and then limits even more what people are using from there. Are you worried about the super elite RPers having ST gear? Usually, but not always, great RPers are less than stellar at PK. Giving them high end gear doesn't make them death machines.
From my understanding, even people who know the place die there. A lot. It has a lot of risk, even to experienced players. By making it be accessible to people who have invested in their chars, it means they aren't just running in and farming gear out of there, because they have a lot to lose potentially.
Question is, how does ST really effect you. Sure, the few chars who have access might get gear. Kill them, take it. It's just like hell gear. The easiest way to get it, kill the person who has it.
And the Immpet classification of players? Come on. That shows your own bias. Having Immxp is a function of playing CF, not a function of favoritism. Being any kind of net positive for the game gets you there. Imms don't hide the sort of things they look for or reward. If you choose to ignore all those facets of CF in how you play, that's more on you. It's the assumption by players that it is so blatantly ongoing with some sort of inner circle of players, without any real truth to it, that only furthers the divide between player and staff.
I've never had an issue gaining Imm xp. I know zero Imms. My chars usually have an Imm or three who pretty actively won't like them because of how I play or what I do IC. I've yet to experience any negative consequences IC because an Imm doesn't personally like my chars. I know I've annoyed Baer many times with silly IC stuff, and yet I know for a fact on any char I play going forward, if I had a reason to, I could visit her when she was vis and RP with her without any problems. Every player has equal access to the Imms. If a player refuses to play anything that makes use of that opportunity, but blaming others who do, that is on the player, not the Imm.
Some people see players that talk to Imms as working the system. Go spend an hour RPing with Ysal. Tell me it isn't one of the best experiences you have in CF. That's the reason people want to interact with Imms (a few people that do try to work the system can't be used to label everyone) They are great Rpers that are usually extremely good at the RP/immersion side of CF, that believe it or not, lots of players actually enjoy. I'd rather spend an hour in the Inn RPing with characters and Imms then hunting someone to PK the 1000th time.
And since 99% of the MUD is accessible without Imm xp, I fail to see this as such a blatant problem. How often are people really losing a PK solely because one guy had ST gear and they didn't?
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Am I the only one who actually LIKES the direction the ...
[View all] , Doof, Thu 08-Jan-15 08:03 AM
Thread locked for sprawl.,
Valguarnera,
10-Jan-15 11:00 AM, #154
I feel the game is more steered towards power gaming no...,
Cenatar_,
06-Jan-15 09:15 PM, #4
RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin...,
Bemused,
06-Jan-15 09:36 PM, #5
RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin...,
Umiron,
06-Jan-15 10:43 PM, #9
"One Area",
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 08:24 AM, #13
This was already answered,
Artificial,
07-Jan-15 08:43 AM, #14
It isn't as 'Easy' as you make it sound,
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 08:50 AM, #16
You're likely wrong to a degree.,
lasentia,
07-Jan-15 10:03 AM #19
Thank you.,
Mendos,
07-Jan-15 07:01 PM, #29
Silent is giant can of worms. Why I think it's bad for...,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 07:14 PM, #31
Apparently it is a can of worms from some player's pers...,
Mendos,
07-Jan-15 08:21 PM, #35
Re: Silent being closed...,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 08:25 PM, #37
RE: Re: Silent being closed...,
Mendos,
07-Jan-15 08:56 PM, #38
Doesn't really make sense there.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 09:05 PM, #40
Not really.,
Mendos,
07-Jan-15 09:31 PM, #44
That's fine.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 09:31 PM, #45
Well this has been a particularly bad week.,
Mendos,
07-Jan-15 10:02 PM, #48
Let me give you some tips on how to be prosperous.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:13 PM, #50
Wait what why am I on that list,
KaguMaru,
08-Jan-15 05:50 AM, #99
RE: Wait what why am I on that list,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 11:22 AM, #103
RE: Re: Silent being closed...,
Cenatar_,
07-Jan-15 11:50 PM, #80
Wait a second...,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 08:38 PM, #39
I didn't "turn in" anyone.,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 09:10 PM, #41
RE: I didn't ,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 09:10 PM, #42
Meh. My brother full-looted one of my best chars ever.,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 09:15 PM, #43
See there.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:08 PM, #51
I think you became Grand Master right there. NT,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 10:59 PM, #61
became?,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:05 PM, #64
RE: Re: Silent being closed...,
Daevryn,
07-Jan-15 11:25 PM, #71
So you leave it for baer followers to use.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 01:05 PM, #105
I have never followed Baer, ever.,
Mendos,
08-Jan-15 05:41 PM, #106
Another way to look at it...,
Umiron,
08-Jan-15 06:02 PM, #107
Thanks Umi,
Bemused,
08-Jan-15 08:02 PM, #112
My last what.... Dozen characters have had 2k + by lev...,
Demos,
07-Jan-15 10:49 PM, #58
I have never sucked IMM a$$ and never had problems gett...,
TheProphet1,
09-Jan-15 08:42 AM, #129
Fantastic suggestions - however they do not fit the 'RP...,
Sarien,
09-Jan-15 09:21 AM, #131
Rebuttal,
TheProphet1,
09-Jan-15 06:58 PM, #148
RE: "One Area",
Umiron,
07-Jan-15 09:43 AM, #17
You should take me seriously.,
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 10:02 AM, #18
RE: You should take me seriously.,
Umiron,
07-Jan-15 10:30 AM, #20
What?,
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 10:55 AM, #21
RE: What?,
Destuvius,
07-Jan-15 11:12 AM, #22
I think he means that he did, but no longer does,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 11:21 AM, #23
Answer:,
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 11:21 AM, #24
He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 07:13 PM, #30
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Destuvius,
07-Jan-15 08:00 PM, #34
One thing...,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 08:20 PM, #36
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 10:25 PM, #53
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:33 PM, #54
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 10:57 PM, #60
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:02 PM, #62
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 11:19 PM, #69
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:28 PM, #73
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 11:42 PM, #79
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:47 PM, #100
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 12:07 AM, #84
RE: He was quite clear, anyone can see that.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:13 AM, #101
This post makes a lot of sense.,
Zephon,
07-Jan-15 11:07 PM, #66
Thanks man.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:20 PM, #70
Ok so...,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:17 PM, #52
When they actually admit it was wrong to do.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 10:46 PM, #57
I see...,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:53 PM, #59
He doesn't play the same game.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 11:05 PM, #63
RE: He doesn't play the same game.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:07 PM, #65
RE: He doesn't play the same game.,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 11:27 PM, #72
RE: He doesn't play the same game.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:29 PM, #74
RE: He doesn't play the same game.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 12:11 AM, #85
Cop out.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:17 AM, #87
RE: Cop out.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 12:32 AM, #89
RE: Cop out.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:37 AM, #90
RE: Cop out.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 12:44 AM, #91
RE: Cop out.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:53 AM, #92
RE: Cop out.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 01:10 AM, #95
No consequence?,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 06:16 PM, #108
Actually I disagree. Daev really deserves some slack.,
Gaplemo,
08-Jan-15 04:18 AM, #96
So, funny story.,
TMNS,
08-Jan-15 04:47 AM, #97
Forget it.,
Aereglen,
08-Jan-15 05:29 AM, #98
This post,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 11:25 AM, #104
Oh now I see...,
Tsunami,
09-Jan-15 01:08 AM, #125
RE: When they actually admit it was wrong to do.,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-15 06:39 PM, #109
That's just....wrong.,
Jormyr,
08-Jan-15 07:48 PM, #110
Oddly enough, Shams and Graatch give Nepenthe problems....,
TMNS,
08-Jan-15 08:01 PM, #111
Team five:,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 08:16 PM, #114
RE: Oddly enough, Shams and Graatch give Nepenthe probl...,
Bemused,
08-Jan-15 08:16 PM, #115
I think you were gone when...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 03:29 AM, #128
Duh, you want me. To bring you all sick gear.,
Gaplemo,
09-Jan-15 06:21 PM, #147
RE: Oddly enough, Shams and Graatch give Nepenthe probl...,
Destuvius,
08-Jan-15 09:18 PM, #118
I was impressed with your PK as a mort!,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 12:02 AM, #120
The only way I give Nep problems...,
TheBluestThumb,
09-Jan-15 01:08 AM, #124
That's exactly why you are there!,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 01:59 AM, #127
RE: The only way I give Nep problems...,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-15 09:16 AM, #130
Simple answer,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 08:14 PM, #113
I'd love to have this happen,
Artificial,
08-Jan-15 08:31 PM, #116
I am curious,
Artificial,
08-Jan-15 08:32 PM, #117
RE: I am curious,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-15 09:39 PM, #119
You're relatively easy to spot because you are too low-...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 12:05 AM, #121
Telnet!? ,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-15 12:50 AM, #122
RE: Telnet!? ,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-15 10:56 AM, #136
It's official, Nep is actually an IA with built in tele...,
KoeKhaos,
09-Jan-15 12:29 PM, #140
So you don't subscribe to the Jerry method of gearing B...,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-15 02:02 PM, #141
RE: So you don't subscribe to the Jerry method of geari...,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-15 02:12 PM, #142
Since we are asking reasonable questions.,
Gaplemo,
09-Jan-15 06:16 PM, #146
Z could have been a guy who later IMM'd at CF-derivativ...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 07:44 PM, #150
Not really no.,
Gaplemo,
09-Jan-15 07:52 PM, #151
I actually talked to Dioxide about this,
Dallevian,
09-Jan-15 08:05 PM, #152
RE: I am curious,
Jaegendar,
09-Jan-15 01:05 AM, #123
But you did play OP w-elf sword zerker.,
Dallevian,
09-Jan-15 09:45 AM, #133
RE: But you did play OP w-elf sword zerker.,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-15 10:39 AM, #135
I meant to say cheated, not cheats.,
Aereglen,
09-Jan-15 01:28 AM, #126
RE: I meant to say cheated, not cheats.,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-15 10:38 AM, #134
RE: I meant to say cheated, not cheats.,
N b M,
09-Jan-15 10:46 AM, #137
To add something else,
N b M,
09-Jan-15 11:48 AM, #139
RE: I meant to say cheated, not cheats.,
Aereglen,
09-Jan-15 02:55 PM, #143
For me, here's your scorecard...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 03:55 PM, #144
Confused on the perma thing,
Rayihn,
09-Jan-15 06:06 PM, #145
Mostly in the past yeah.,
TMNS,
09-Jan-15 07:48 PM, #149
RE: Mostly in the past yeah.,
Rayihn,
09-Jan-15 11:50 PM, #153
Umi? Baby!,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 09:38 PM, #46
Look at it from our perspective?,
Cenatar_,
07-Jan-15 06:30 PM, #28
All you needed was the first three sentences.,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 07:17 PM, #33
Bro.,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 09:54 PM, #49
To Be Fair,
Bemused,
07-Jan-15 10:35 PM, #55
...what?,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 10:45 PM, #56
S-MUG.,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 11:09 PM, #67
I'm not sure that I want to...,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:14 PM, #68
Lol Proud Blade,
Gaplemo,
08-Jan-15 12:13 AM, #86
Right on.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:17 AM, #88
Does it matter that it was long ago if it is seen as al...,
Cenatar_,
07-Jan-15 11:41 PM, #78
Do they need to?,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:52 PM, #81
RE: Do they need to?,
Cenatar_,
08-Jan-15 12:00 AM, #82
RE: Do they need to?,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 12:02 AM, #83
RE: Look at it from our perspective?,
Daevryn,
07-Jan-15 11:30 PM, #75
Hey pal,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 11:34 PM, #76
I'm not complaining,
Cenatar_,
07-Jan-15 11:47 PM, #77
RE: I'm not complaining,
Jaegendar,
08-Jan-15 12:58 AM, #93
Preach it brother.,
Tsunami,
08-Jan-15 01:00 AM, #94
RE: ,
Bemused,
07-Jan-15 09:44 PM, #47
RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin...,
Umiron,
06-Jan-15 09:39 PM, #6
RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin...,
Cenatar_,
06-Jan-15 10:23 PM, #7
RE: I feel the game is more steered towards power gamin...,
Umiron,
06-Jan-15 10:35 PM, #8
Really wish that silent exp requirement would half,
Current leader (Anonymous),
07-Jan-15 04:39 AM, #10
RE: Really wish that silent exp requirement would half,
Different Current Leader (Anonymous),
07-Jan-15 08:43 AM, #15
The problem is it creates a huge imbalance.,
Current leader (Anonymous),
07-Jan-15 02:10 PM, #25
This is spot on.,
Sarien,
07-Jan-15 03:18 PM, #26
Gated,
Tsunami,
07-Jan-15 04:13 PM, #27
IMMs please look at this post, he's got it right. nt,
Aereglen,
07-Jan-15 07:15 PM, #32
I will echo again, most CF players suck at assessing va...,
laxman,
08-Jan-15 10:42 AM, #102
Not true,
incognito,
09-Jan-15 09:27 AM, #132
Edge case vs common case,
laxman,
09-Jan-15 11:22 AM, #138
I heroed a warrior once with less than 90% parry. And t...,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 05:15 AM, #12
You're doing practice wrong,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 05:11 AM, #11
I think the sentiment is nice but...,
Eskelian,
06-Jan-15 01:16 PM, #2
I posted something on the OT forum about "Playing Catch...,
Tac,
06-Jan-15 02:17 PM, #3
As a veteran since 1995 and not a newbie, I totally agr...,
Polmier (Anonymous),
06-Jan-15 09:32 AM, #1
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