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lasentiaWed 03-Dec-14 02:05 PM
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#57290, "Except, I never see any edges as essential"


          

We all still get edges, this change isn't the death knell of edges for every char going forward. It's a reduction of the value of the most overly farmed sources (roles/obs/exp are all easily farmable) of edge points is all, nothing more. It's not that edges don't have any impact, looking through AP edges there are tons that look really nice and useful. Maybe there should be more opportunity cost in edge selection then previously existed. That I as a specific player don't care about certain edges and their impact does not mean another player wouldn't prioritize them differently. (Does a bard need seasoned traveler when they have travelers march at level 2? Maybe a human does because they have less mana so don't want to waste it on the song ever) Really, by making edges too abundant, you lose more of that customization/differentiation between similar characters, because we all end up having more then we need and taking the same ones inevitably as a result of there only being so many to choose from.

Even a lot of the best edges for classes have a marginal value, and usually have less impact than we players think they do, outside of those rare few like conjie familiar and summoning edges and DV. Maybe those specific edges shouldn't be edges, but be built into the class, so as to not make those classes feel like they have a disadvantage where they have to take those edges. Would thieves be happier if they got 110 thief points instead of 100, but DV no longer existed, and maybe they lose one or two niche skills as well so as to not make it a straight buff? I don't know the answer to that. Maybe shifters get 1 form reroll, period, instead of taking edges for the first and second. Would people be happy about that?

I honestly have no idea. But I think where CF is now, the perception of this change is far worse than the reality of it. Play it out for a month, and then tell me it was awful, because you've operated under it.

All things with change have the potential for poor results and bad consequences, but instead of predicting those and ensuring they come about, try to imagine the good. More immersive RP. Less rote farming runs at specific levels. More Imms engaging the PB. More people risking PK for the sake of garnering notice. Try to up your RP when you play, see if you notice more pats on the back. Maybe, even if not, you end up enjoying the game more. There is just as much potential for good things to come from the change as bad, and that's all I am saying.

  

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HOT TopicEdge Point Changes [View all] , Whiysdan, Wed 03-Dec-14 07:09 AM
Reply Thanks., TMNS, 23-Dec-14 09:25 PM, #47
Reply How nice of you to go out of your way, Murphy, 24-Dec-14 11:02 PM, #48
     Reply RE: How nice of you to go out of your way, Cleauseau, 25-Dec-14 03:25 AM, #49
          Reply Nothing to do with PKs. I just hate inconvenience., Murphy, 25-Dec-14 04:21 AM, #50
               Reply RE: Nothing to do with PKs. I just hate inconvenience., Purmodin, 25-Dec-14 07:45 PM, #51
                    Reply I have already adapted, I'm just calling out Sam., Murphy, 25-Dec-14 08:01 PM, #52
Reply RE: Edge Point Changes, mackle, 05-Dec-14 05:10 PM, #46
Reply RE: Edge Point Changes, Demos, 04-Dec-14 05:42 PM, #43
Reply Am I in the minority on edges?, Amora, 03-Dec-14 11:07 PM, #32
Reply You aren't alone, Sarien, 04-Dec-14 08:39 AM, #37
Reply RE: Am I in the minority on edges?, incognito, 04-Dec-14 08:57 AM, #38
Reply Obviously you aren't in the minority, Murphy, 04-Dec-14 10:22 AM, #39
     Reply Not convinced, incognito, 04-Dec-14 01:25 PM, #40
          Reply Those were just examples, Murphy, 04-Dec-14 01:49 PM, #41
               Reply RE: Those were just examples, Daevryn, 05-Dec-14 12:28 AM, #45
Reply Love this change!, DeathIncarnate, 03-Dec-14 06:31 PM, #26
Reply RE: Edge Point Changes, Hutto, 03-Dec-14 06:16 PM, #23
Reply RE: Edge Point Changes, Bemused, 03-Dec-14 06:05 PM, #25
Reply RE: Edge Point Changes, Daevryn, 03-Dec-14 10:21 PM, #30
     Reply Can we revisit the idea of imm exp on silent tower pret..., Anti-Hero, 03-Dec-14 11:04 PM, #31
Reply Informed Decisions, laxman, 03-Dec-14 09:50 AM, #13
Reply On this note, incognito, 03-Dec-14 01:30 PM, #17
Reply Just out of curiosity, Pendragon_Surtr, 03-Dec-14 09:20 AM, #10
Reply Impossible to say., Umiron, 03-Dec-14 09:39 AM, #12
Reply RE: Impossible to say., Pendragon_Surtr, 03-Dec-14 12:13 PM, #16
     Reply Not that simple, incognito, 03-Dec-14 01:32 PM, #18
          Reply RE: Not that simple, Daevryn, 03-Dec-14 09:49 PM, #28
Reply RE: Just out of curiosity, Daevryn, 03-Dec-14 09:56 PM, #29
     Reply I must have been on good drugs I guess, Pendragon_Surtr, 03-Dec-14 11:27 PM, #33
Reply Please provide alternate routes for edges that aren't I..., Sarien, 03-Dec-14 07:40 AM, #8
Reply RE: Please provide alternate routes for edges that aren..., Akresius, 03-Dec-14 09:08 AM, #9
     Reply Crap, I screwed that up., Sarien, 03-Dec-14 10:27 AM, #14
          Reply RE: Crap, I screwed that up., Daevryn, 03-Dec-14 09:46 PM, #27
               Reply My impression, incognito, 04-Dec-14 02:31 AM, #34
               Reply RE: My impression, Daevryn, 05-Dec-14 12:24 AM, #44
               Reply I guess I must have missed it., Sarien, 04-Dec-14 07:53 AM, #36
                    Reply Not sure I like the edges for killing mobs, incognito, 04-Dec-14 02:54 PM, #42
Reply RE: Edge Point Changes, Bemused, 02-Dec-14 06:17 PM, #7
Reply RE: Edge Point Changes, Whiysdan, 02-Dec-14 07:04 PM, #4
Reply Allysia & Salyeris and thoughts on a point system, lasentia, 03-Dec-14 09:31 AM, #11
     Reply You nailed it right there., Murphy, 03-Dec-14 11:36 AM, #15
     Reply Except, I never see any edges as essential, lasentia, 03-Dec-14 02:05 PM #19
          Reply A couple are a mechanical neccesity, laxman, 03-Dec-14 04:36 PM, #20
          Reply A thought on slaver, Tac, 03-Dec-14 04:55 PM, #21
               Reply my thoughts on slaver, laxman, 03-Dec-14 05:09 PM, #22
          Reply The thing about ap edges, incognito, 04-Dec-14 02:35 AM, #35
     Reply RE: Allysia & Salyeris and thoughts on a point system, Bemused, 03-Dec-14 05:59 PM, #24
Reply Why not halve the cap instead of halving the returns?, Murphy, 03-Dec-14 06:17 AM, #6
Reply Thanks for all you do. I retract my original comments u..., polmier, 02-Dec-14 06:14 PM, #2
Reply Thanks for your thanks! (n/t), Whiysdan, 02-Dec-14 07:04 PM, #5
Reply RE: Edge Point Changes, N b M, 02-Dec-14 05:58 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Edge Point Changes, Whiysdan, 02-Dec-14 07:00 PM, #3
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