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MendosTue 02-Dec-14 01:32 PM
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#57238, "A few points."
Edited on Tue 02-Dec-14 01:43 PM

          

1. Many of the posts in the thread below is a classic example of the "shoot first" mentality from players. Rather than give the changes a chance to live test, they jump all over them*.

That doesn't necessarily validate, or invalidate any opinions. It does, however, lead to wholesale speculation as to the intended nature of the changes.

2. Prior to this there were some characters who (as Destuvius pointed out below) were able to obtain rather excessive amounts of Role XP just from being prolific writers. I see that as an issue, especially when we already have monthly Role Contests and so on.

From my perspective, having read and rated a lot of your roles as players (over 120 chapter entries to date) I could tell you that there is an obvious disparity in role writing ability. A lot of those rewards are double-counted through role rating and the role contest wins (in my opinion).

This aspect of the change is a positive move provided the staff set a more active approach for giving experience for good RP.

3. I would point out that (barring a few older classes) the game does not have to be a min/max grind-fest if you choose not to play it that way. I know that many people will not alter that particular play-style, and it is their prerogative as a player to not do so, it does seems to be deeply ingrained in the psyche of many members of our player base.

*I am personally a big advocate of transparency for the players. I like that the staff document their mechanical changes and put it out there for the world to know. I think it is important to maintain communication between the players and the people who do the code work. So there needs to be some give on both sides. If you guys want coders to actually work (as volunteers) on the game, enjoy working, and be transparent about changes, then please lower personal expectations.

Having expectations of the staff as being completely infallible and/or only ever making changes that benefit you personally as an individual is a very problematic mindset to get into.

PS: And yes, everyone on the staff has volunteered. They don't get to turn around and act like they are owed respect because of it. I maintain that respect is earned. But guys, really, you are expecting far too much in too short a time from a group who are not paid to do this work. If this game is to have a future, we need to be realistic about what we want and what we can achieve, given resources, as a community.

  

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HOT Topicrole/imm xp [View all] , ibuki, Tue 02-Dec-14 08:02 PM
Reply Comments, Umiron, 02-Dec-14 06:59 PM, #66
Reply Thanks for your time on this and the insight behind the..., polmier, 02-Dec-14 11:27 PM, #74
Reply Thanks for the clarifying post, lasentia, 03-Dec-14 10:48 AM, #78
Reply I may get lynched, but since Imm exp will be more impor..., Quixotic, 03-Jan-15 01:23 PM, #80
     Reply No. (nt), Umiron, 03-Jan-15 01:38 PM, #81
     Reply did you get my Christmas card big guy? ;-), Quixotic, 03-Jan-15 03:28 PM, #82
          Reply All you had to do was say you had a system in place, Quixotic, 03-Jan-15 04:48 PM, #83
               Reply RE: All you had to do was say you had a system in place, Straklaw, 03-Jan-15 09:34 PM, #84
     Reply Because we love you, Quix:, Rayihn, 04-Jan-15 07:22 PM, #85
Reply A few points., Mendos, 02-Dec-14 01:43 PM #49
Reply Great post, but I have some followup commentary., Sarien, 02-Dec-14 02:19 PM, #50
Reply RE: Great post, but I have some followup commentary., Mendos, 02-Dec-14 07:24 PM, #68
Reply RE: A few points., N b M, 02-Dec-14 02:34 PM, #52
Reply Yeah, basically this., Calion, 02-Dec-14 03:20 PM, #57
Reply RE: A few points., Mendos, 02-Dec-14 07:39 PM, #69
Reply By the way.., Mendos, 03-Dec-14 03:43 AM, #75
Reply Speaking as someone who'd maintained a MUD, Murphy, 02-Dec-14 03:05 PM, #55
Reply RE: Speaking as someone who'd maintained a MUD, Mendos, 02-Dec-14 07:44 PM, #67
     Reply I KNOW you're not trying to be bad guys., Murphy, 03-Dec-14 06:07 AM, #76
          Reply It hasn't been ignored., Mendos, 03-Dec-14 10:13 AM, #77
Reply Wholesale speculation..., Tac, 02-Dec-14 04:25 PM, #58
Reply RE: Wholesale speculation..., Mendos, 02-Dec-14 07:46 PM, #65
Reply RE: A few points., Bemused, 02-Dec-14 04:46 PM, #59
Reply RE: A few points., Mendos, 02-Dec-14 06:43 PM, #63
Reply Excellent Points, polmier, 02-Dec-14 06:09 PM, #60
Reply Eh I mean., Mendos, 02-Dec-14 06:23 PM, #62
Reply Shifter question, Pendragon_Surtr, 02-Dec-14 04:35 PM, #70
     Reply Check Santa Umi., Mendos, 02-Dec-14 06:47 PM, #64
          Reply Thanks Mendos, Pendragon_Surtr, 02-Dec-14 08:02 PM, #71
               Reply No problem., Mendos, 02-Dec-14 08:05 PM, #72
Reply Feedback, Tsunami, 02-Dec-14 09:45 AM, #44
Reply I can't decide whether to quit or, Pendragon_Surtr, 01-Dec-14 07:24 PM, #28
Reply Tears are falling fast, Artificial, 02-Dec-14 09:24 AM, #42
     Reply If you're in a cabal and someone bothers to take your i..., Murphy, 02-Dec-14 09:33 AM, #43
     Reply hah, 90 hours played...., Sarien, 02-Dec-14 09:52 AM, #46
          Reply Maybe don't play on the winning team. nt, Artificial, 02-Dec-14 09:58 AM, #47
          Reply As if!, Sarien, 02-Dec-14 02:21 PM, #51
               Reply If you really wanted an internet, Artificial, 02-Dec-14 02:45 PM, #53
                    Reply I probably just lost an internet..., Sarien, 02-Dec-14 03:00 PM, #54
                         Reply Its somewhere in here. Can't hear sound at work., Artificial, 02-Dec-14 03:17 PM, #56
                              Reply Here it is., Artificial, 02-Dec-14 09:50 PM, #73
          Reply This depends on luck, Murphy, 02-Dec-14 10:00 AM, #48
Reply i don't understand the general tone of changes lately., Athioles, 01-Dec-14 07:04 PM, #26
Reply Few things, incognito, 02-Dec-14 07:59 AM, #38
Reply Players are funny., lasentia, 01-Dec-14 02:59 PM, #19
Reply actually it empowers PK oriented players, laxman, 01-Dec-14 03:16 PM, #20
Reply RE: Players are funny., Elerosse, 01-Dec-14 03:39 PM, #21
Reply Some counters, just to consider., lasentia, 01-Dec-14 04:20 PM, #22
     Reply Counter counters?, Tac, 01-Dec-14 04:49 PM, #23
Reply Those who bitched, Murphy, 01-Dec-14 05:14 PM, #24
Reply Re: Imm Favoratism, Nythos (Anonymous), 01-Dec-14 06:50 PM, #25
Reply I like this change, Treebeard, 01-Dec-14 11:30 AM, #14
Reply I too would love the 1 per every 10 levels method, with..., Sarien, 01-Dec-14 11:40 AM, #16
     Reply I see what you're saying, and I think it comes down to ..., Treebeard, 01-Dec-14 11:50 AM, #17
          Reply I like getting my edges via PK personally, Sarien, 01-Dec-14 12:29 PM, #18
Reply I almost always agree with the Imms but even I do not u..., polmier, 01-Dec-14 11:21 AM, #13
Reply umm, incognito, 01-Dec-14 11:15 AM, #12
Reply I do not like this change. Nor do I understand the des..., Tac, 01-Dec-14 10:56 AM, #9
Reply RE: role/imm xp, Bemused, 01-Dec-14 08:49 AM, #6
Reply Are the caps for observation, exploration, and commerce..., Elerosse, 01-Dec-14 07:49 AM, #3
Reply The caps are the same., Umiron, 01-Dec-14 08:19 AM, #4
     Reply RE: The caps are the same., Elerosse, 01-Dec-14 10:35 AM, #8
Reply Re: Imm XP Requirements, Umiron, 01-Dec-14 07:40 AM, #2
Reply Please explain the 'good' reason behind these requireme..., Sarien, 01-Dec-14 08:26 AM, #5
     Reply It basically just makes the game more grind and less fu..., Lhydia, 01-Dec-14 09:42 AM, #7
     Reply This.., Elerosse, 01-Dec-14 10:59 AM, #10
     Reply RE: This.., Hutto, 01-Dec-14 11:39 AM, #15
          Reply I didn't even think of commerce xp., Athioles, 01-Dec-14 07:19 PM, #27
               Reply Stop trying to game the system, incognito, 02-Dec-14 08:04 AM, #39
     Reply RE: It basically just makes the game more grind and les..., Akresius, 01-Dec-14 08:12 PM, #29
          Reply Sweet. Thanks. n/t, Lhydia, 01-Dec-14 08:21 PM, #30
          Reply I'd be pretty OK with this change if there were now oth..., TJHuron, 01-Dec-14 08:34 PM, #31
          Reply RE: I'd be pretty OK with this change if there were now..., Akresius, 01-Dec-14 09:01 PM, #32
               Reply Are you comfortable with the idea that it, Murphy, 02-Dec-14 05:38 AM, #33
                    Reply RE: Are you comfortable with the idea that it, Destuvius, 02-Dec-14 06:15 AM, #
                    Reply There is a bigger..unmentioned issue underlying this al..., Sarien, 02-Dec-14 07:53 AM, #36
                    Reply Counterpoints, incognito, 02-Dec-14 08:10 AM, #41
                    Reply Invalid, Tsunami, 02-Dec-14 09:51 AM, #45
                    Reply Good points. nt, polmier, 02-Dec-14 06:11 PM, #61
                    Reply RE: Are you comfortable with the idea that it, Destuvius, 02-Dec-14 06:15 AM, #34
                    Reply I guess I play those builds that rely on edges to work ..., Murphy, 02-Dec-14 06:51 AM, #35
                         Reply I agree 100% dude., Sarien, 02-Dec-14 07:59 AM, #37
                    Reply Beware imm exp farming, incognito, 02-Dec-14 08:07 AM, #40
          Reply I quadrupled my xpadds in December., Akresius, 01-Jan-15 11:20 AM, #79
     Reply Not a good change., xrus, 01-Dec-14 11:12 AM, #11
Reply Also emote for familiars and emote in form. n/t, Shifter/Conjie (Anonymous), 01-Dec-14 07:00 AM, #1
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