Tsunami | Tue 02-Dec-14 09:51 AM |
Member since 25th Mar 2008
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#57234, "Invalid"
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You shouldn't use that term, imo.
>1) This is an invalid argument for a lot of reasons. The >biggest one is that in the past we had a portion of our imm >staff wwho made a special point of NOT handing out imm xp for >various things to particular players due to them having >already received lots of "imm xp" from role writing. The fact >that role xp and imm xp are different now will lead to a lot >of said imms being more liberal in handing out imm xp.
Are those same immortals also going to be providing 24 hour administrative coverage for our Russian brothers? I bet they aren't. Sorry Murph, you are indeed screwed and your argument is valid.
>2) Again, invalid argument. The only advantage you gain in >following a god as far as edge points go is getting tattooed. >Just following an imm isn't going to mean you get more imm xp >or better pks or explore better which are all of the other >avenues available to you for edge gain.
I take it you have never played a character that didn't follow a god. You have new gods now and maybe you all will make an effort to change this, but lets not pretend like cabaled immortal follower and uncabaled immortal non-follower get anywhere near the same level of attention. Up until this change, that has been fine. We had people to PK and stuff to do to gain edges. Shrinking playerbase and bad changes have changed that.
>3) Invalid argument, see #2.
Invalid invalidity, see #2.
>I think that our players put far too much weight in the impact >edges make when it comes right down to it. Do they offer a >lot of cool perks? Yeah, they totally do. Can you pve or pk >the exact same without edges as you do with them? Not quite, >but the difference is small enough where it won't have a night >and day difference. Its kind of like the whole theory of >NEEDING 100% in skills to be competitive. There are probably >a handful of times over the life of a character where it >matters, but at the end of the day player skill/knowledge is >going to be the biggest deciding factor in 99.9% of >situations.
I think they put far too much weight on the impact of edges too. Unfortunately, you don't get to go in their brains and tweak the broken parts. Instead, you have to remember that they are human just like you. They probably poop, fart, and eat garbage like everyone else. Try to tailor the game to your players.
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role/imm xp
[View all] , ibuki, Tue 02-Dec-14 08:02 PM
Comments,
Umiron,
02-Dec-14 06:59 PM, #66
Thanks for your time on this and the insight behind the...,
polmier,
02-Dec-14 11:27 PM, #74
Thanks for the clarifying post,
lasentia,
03-Dec-14 10:48 AM, #78
I may get lynched, but since Imm exp will be more impor...,
Quixotic,
03-Jan-15 01:23 PM, #80
No. (nt),
Umiron,
03-Jan-15 01:38 PM, #81
did you get my Christmas card big guy? ;-),
Quixotic,
03-Jan-15 03:28 PM, #82
All you had to do was say you had a system in place,
Quixotic,
03-Jan-15 04:48 PM, #83
RE: All you had to do was say you had a system in place,
Straklaw,
03-Jan-15 09:34 PM, #84
Because we love you, Quix:,
Rayihn,
04-Jan-15 07:22 PM, #85
A few points.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 01:43 PM, #49
Great post, but I have some followup commentary.,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 02:19 PM, #50
RE: Great post, but I have some followup commentary.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 07:24 PM, #68
RE: A few points.,
N b M,
02-Dec-14 02:34 PM, #52
Yeah, basically this.,
Calion,
02-Dec-14 03:20 PM, #57
RE: A few points.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 07:39 PM, #69
By the way..,
Mendos,
03-Dec-14 03:43 AM, #75
Speaking as someone who'd maintained a MUD,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 03:05 PM, #55
RE: Speaking as someone who'd maintained a MUD,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 07:44 PM, #67
I KNOW you're not trying to be bad guys.,
Murphy,
03-Dec-14 06:07 AM, #76
It hasn't been ignored.,
Mendos,
03-Dec-14 10:13 AM, #77
Wholesale speculation...,
Tac,
02-Dec-14 04:25 PM, #58
RE: Wholesale speculation...,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 07:46 PM, #65
RE: A few points.,
Bemused,
02-Dec-14 04:46 PM, #59
RE: A few points.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 06:43 PM, #63
Excellent Points,
polmier,
02-Dec-14 06:09 PM, #60
Eh I mean.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 06:23 PM, #62
Shifter question,
Pendragon_Surtr,
02-Dec-14 04:35 PM, #70
Check Santa Umi.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 06:47 PM, #64
Thanks Mendos,
Pendragon_Surtr,
02-Dec-14 08:02 PM, #71
No problem.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 08:05 PM, #72
Feedback,
Tsunami,
02-Dec-14 09:45 AM, #44
I can't decide whether to quit or,
Pendragon_Surtr,
01-Dec-14 07:24 PM, #28
Tears are falling fast,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 09:24 AM, #42
If you're in a cabal and someone bothers to take your i...,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 09:33 AM, #43
hah, 90 hours played....,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 09:52 AM, #46
Maybe don't play on the winning team. nt,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 09:58 AM, #47
As if!,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 02:21 PM, #51
If you really wanted an internet,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 02:45 PM, #53
I probably just lost an internet...,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 03:00 PM, #54
Its somewhere in here. Can't hear sound at work.,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 03:17 PM, #56
Here it is.,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 09:50 PM, #73
This depends on luck,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 10:00 AM, #48
i don't understand the general tone of changes lately.,
Athioles,
01-Dec-14 07:04 PM, #26
Few things,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 07:59 AM, #38
Players are funny.,
lasentia,
01-Dec-14 02:59 PM, #19
actually it empowers PK oriented players,
laxman,
01-Dec-14 03:16 PM, #20
RE: Players are funny.,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 03:39 PM, #21
Some counters, just to consider.,
lasentia,
01-Dec-14 04:20 PM, #22
Counter counters?,
Tac,
01-Dec-14 04:49 PM, #23
Those who bitched,
Murphy,
01-Dec-14 05:14 PM, #24
Re: Imm Favoratism,
Nythos (Anonymous),
01-Dec-14 06:50 PM, #25
I like this change,
Treebeard,
01-Dec-14 11:30 AM, #14
I too would love the 1 per every 10 levels method, with...,
Sarien,
01-Dec-14 11:40 AM, #16
I see what you're saying, and I think it comes down to ...,
Treebeard,
01-Dec-14 11:50 AM, #17
I like getting my edges via PK personally,
Sarien,
01-Dec-14 12:29 PM, #18
I almost always agree with the Imms but even I do not u...,
polmier,
01-Dec-14 11:21 AM, #13
umm,
incognito,
01-Dec-14 11:15 AM, #12
I do not like this change. Nor do I understand the des...,
Tac,
01-Dec-14 10:56 AM, #9
RE: role/imm xp,
Bemused,
01-Dec-14 08:49 AM, #6
Are the caps for observation, exploration, and commerce...,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 07:49 AM, #3
The caps are the same.,
Umiron,
01-Dec-14 08:19 AM, #4
RE: The caps are the same.,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 10:35 AM, #8
Re: Imm XP Requirements,
Umiron,
01-Dec-14 07:40 AM, #2
Please explain the 'good' reason behind these requireme...,
Sarien,
01-Dec-14 08:26 AM, #5
It basically just makes the game more grind and less fu...,
Lhydia,
01-Dec-14 09:42 AM, #7
This..,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 10:59 AM, #10
RE: This..,
Hutto,
01-Dec-14 11:39 AM, #15
I didn't even think of commerce xp.,
Athioles,
01-Dec-14 07:19 PM, #27
Stop trying to game the system,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 08:04 AM, #39
RE: It basically just makes the game more grind and les...,
Akresius,
01-Dec-14 08:12 PM, #29
Sweet. Thanks. n/t,
Lhydia,
01-Dec-14 08:21 PM, #30
I'd be pretty OK with this change if there were now oth...,
TJHuron,
01-Dec-14 08:34 PM, #31
RE: I'd be pretty OK with this change if there were now...,
Akresius,
01-Dec-14 09:01 PM, #32
Are you comfortable with the idea that it,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 05:38 AM, #33
RE: Are you comfortable with the idea that it,
Destuvius,
02-Dec-14 06:15 AM, #
There is a bigger..unmentioned issue underlying this al...,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 07:53 AM, #36
Counterpoints,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 08:10 AM, #41
Invalid,
Tsunami,
02-Dec-14 09:51 AM #45
Good points. nt,
polmier,
02-Dec-14 06:11 PM, #61
RE: Are you comfortable with the idea that it,
Destuvius,
02-Dec-14 06:15 AM, #34
I guess I play those builds that rely on edges to work ...,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 06:51 AM, #35
I agree 100% dude.,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 07:59 AM, #37
Beware imm exp farming,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 08:07 AM, #40
I quadrupled my xpadds in December.,
Akresius,
01-Jan-15 11:20 AM, #79
Not a good change.,
xrus,
01-Dec-14 11:12 AM, #11
Also emote for familiars and emote in form. n/t,
Shifter/Conjie (Anonymous),
01-Dec-14 07:00 AM, #1
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