lasentia | Mon 01-Dec-14 04:20 PM |
Member since 27th Apr 2010
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#57209, "Some counters, just to consider."
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1) Enough did bitch about it I'd argue. And I can maximize obs/xp with ease, and I still find it annoyingly tedious to do it, even if it takes me half the time it takes other players (honestly, can people not get to 15k of each in a few hours at hero if they focus on it). I imagine the evidence on their end by just observing players probably shows most players making obs/expl xp runs while engaging in zero/little RP. The fact that it is being actively farmed by a majority of players is a reason in itself to disincentivize the behavior. Area explores were once supposedly challenging areas, meant for groups and the like to discover and maybe overcome the challenges within. Now they may as well be scripted places to visit when someone either wants the obs/exp xp or a specific item from the place.
2) The grind should be worth so little in terms of perks that people don't feel the need to grind it out anymore solely for those perks. The edge points for those things should be an after thought that comes through playing the game, not the requisite to playing the game people make it out to be. While eliminating it completely was probably taking it to far, I think this moves the vision of CF they have closer to what they want it to be. Keep in mind, I am assuming that the Imms want to move CF in this direction and have plans in place beyond this, and it's not something I am actually in favor of. I liked the old system, mainly because it was so easy to abuse. But that abuse had people engaging my char to go there with them, so on some level, it still created the interactive opportunity. If PK is the primary edge point system, yay for more evil no rp multi killing douches spawning. Quas loves him some PK. I find PK so boring I can't even come up with reasons to engage in it with a char. I'd rather just sit around and BS with people. It's just a matter of player taste there though, but PK already motivates people to disregard RP.
3) If the point of exploration is gear/preps/quests why do you care if you earn a mechanical reward in terms of edge points for engaging in it (or that the value was lessened)? Maybe you are rereading the NPC descriptions in Organia for the 1000th time. Most of us are doing l 1.;2 2.;l 3.;... because we've read it before. If you're doing those things for gear/preps/quests, aren't the gear preps/quests you acquire/complete the reward for doing it? CF is a Multiplayer RPG, it's not a solitary RPG. Why should I be able to accrue multiple edges by playing the single player version of CF when the whole point of the game is the player to player interactions supposedly.
As to the rest, it was assumption on my part that I was hoping they would engage in as a result of their change. You're right, it wasn't stated that they would do this, and I agree, saying that they would probably would have smoothed the reception of this over far better. I think Imm xp requirements for anything should be gone. I think the Imms should involve themselves more in the game as gods and as interactive NPCs. It's what I would hope to see the Imms do to compensate for the change. Yes, obs/exp were easy easy ways to farm edges points. But maybe the Imms wanted to drive CF away from being a game where players have to farm things, or even where they feel they have to. There is enough of that with ranking/skill practice.
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role/imm xp
[View all] , ibuki, Tue 02-Dec-14 08:02 PM
Comments,
Umiron,
02-Dec-14 06:59 PM, #66
Thanks for your time on this and the insight behind the...,
polmier,
02-Dec-14 11:27 PM, #74
Thanks for the clarifying post,
lasentia,
03-Dec-14 10:48 AM, #78
I may get lynched, but since Imm exp will be more impor...,
Quixotic,
03-Jan-15 01:23 PM, #80
No. (nt),
Umiron,
03-Jan-15 01:38 PM, #81
did you get my Christmas card big guy? ;-),
Quixotic,
03-Jan-15 03:28 PM, #82
All you had to do was say you had a system in place,
Quixotic,
03-Jan-15 04:48 PM, #83
RE: All you had to do was say you had a system in place,
Straklaw,
03-Jan-15 09:34 PM, #84
Because we love you, Quix:,
Rayihn,
04-Jan-15 07:22 PM, #85
A few points.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 01:43 PM, #49
Great post, but I have some followup commentary.,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 02:19 PM, #50
RE: Great post, but I have some followup commentary.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 07:24 PM, #68
RE: A few points.,
N b M,
02-Dec-14 02:34 PM, #52
Yeah, basically this.,
Calion,
02-Dec-14 03:20 PM, #57
RE: A few points.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 07:39 PM, #69
By the way..,
Mendos,
03-Dec-14 03:43 AM, #75
Speaking as someone who'd maintained a MUD,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 03:05 PM, #55
RE: Speaking as someone who'd maintained a MUD,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 07:44 PM, #67
I KNOW you're not trying to be bad guys.,
Murphy,
03-Dec-14 06:07 AM, #76
It hasn't been ignored.,
Mendos,
03-Dec-14 10:13 AM, #77
Wholesale speculation...,
Tac,
02-Dec-14 04:25 PM, #58
RE: Wholesale speculation...,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 07:46 PM, #65
RE: A few points.,
Bemused,
02-Dec-14 04:46 PM, #59
RE: A few points.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 06:43 PM, #63
Excellent Points,
polmier,
02-Dec-14 06:09 PM, #60
Eh I mean.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 06:23 PM, #62
Shifter question,
Pendragon_Surtr,
02-Dec-14 04:35 PM, #70
Check Santa Umi.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 06:47 PM, #64
Thanks Mendos,
Pendragon_Surtr,
02-Dec-14 08:02 PM, #71
No problem.,
Mendos,
02-Dec-14 08:05 PM, #72
Feedback,
Tsunami,
02-Dec-14 09:45 AM, #44
I can't decide whether to quit or,
Pendragon_Surtr,
01-Dec-14 07:24 PM, #28
Tears are falling fast,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 09:24 AM, #42
If you're in a cabal and someone bothers to take your i...,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 09:33 AM, #43
hah, 90 hours played....,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 09:52 AM, #46
Maybe don't play on the winning team. nt,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 09:58 AM, #47
As if!,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 02:21 PM, #51
If you really wanted an internet,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 02:45 PM, #53
I probably just lost an internet...,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 03:00 PM, #54
Its somewhere in here. Can't hear sound at work.,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 03:17 PM, #56
Here it is.,
Artificial,
02-Dec-14 09:50 PM, #73
This depends on luck,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 10:00 AM, #48
i don't understand the general tone of changes lately.,
Athioles,
01-Dec-14 07:04 PM, #26
Few things,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 07:59 AM, #38
Players are funny.,
lasentia,
01-Dec-14 02:59 PM, #19
actually it empowers PK oriented players,
laxman,
01-Dec-14 03:16 PM, #20
RE: Players are funny.,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 03:39 PM, #21
Some counters, just to consider.,
lasentia,
01-Dec-14 04:20 PM #22
Counter counters?,
Tac,
01-Dec-14 04:49 PM, #23
Those who bitched,
Murphy,
01-Dec-14 05:14 PM, #24
Re: Imm Favoratism,
Nythos (Anonymous),
01-Dec-14 06:50 PM, #25
I like this change,
Treebeard,
01-Dec-14 11:30 AM, #14
I too would love the 1 per every 10 levels method, with...,
Sarien,
01-Dec-14 11:40 AM, #16
I see what you're saying, and I think it comes down to ...,
Treebeard,
01-Dec-14 11:50 AM, #17
I like getting my edges via PK personally,
Sarien,
01-Dec-14 12:29 PM, #18
I almost always agree with the Imms but even I do not u...,
polmier,
01-Dec-14 11:21 AM, #13
umm,
incognito,
01-Dec-14 11:15 AM, #12
I do not like this change. Nor do I understand the des...,
Tac,
01-Dec-14 10:56 AM, #9
RE: role/imm xp,
Bemused,
01-Dec-14 08:49 AM, #6
Are the caps for observation, exploration, and commerce...,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 07:49 AM, #3
The caps are the same.,
Umiron,
01-Dec-14 08:19 AM, #4
RE: The caps are the same.,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 10:35 AM, #8
Re: Imm XP Requirements,
Umiron,
01-Dec-14 07:40 AM, #2
Please explain the 'good' reason behind these requireme...,
Sarien,
01-Dec-14 08:26 AM, #5
It basically just makes the game more grind and less fu...,
Lhydia,
01-Dec-14 09:42 AM, #7
This..,
Elerosse,
01-Dec-14 10:59 AM, #10
RE: This..,
Hutto,
01-Dec-14 11:39 AM, #15
I didn't even think of commerce xp.,
Athioles,
01-Dec-14 07:19 PM, #27
Stop trying to game the system,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 08:04 AM, #39
RE: It basically just makes the game more grind and les...,
Akresius,
01-Dec-14 08:12 PM, #29
Sweet. Thanks. n/t,
Lhydia,
01-Dec-14 08:21 PM, #30
I'd be pretty OK with this change if there were now oth...,
TJHuron,
01-Dec-14 08:34 PM, #31
RE: I'd be pretty OK with this change if there were now...,
Akresius,
01-Dec-14 09:01 PM, #32
Are you comfortable with the idea that it,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 05:38 AM, #33
RE: Are you comfortable with the idea that it,
Destuvius,
02-Dec-14 06:15 AM, #
There is a bigger..unmentioned issue underlying this al...,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 07:53 AM, #36
Counterpoints,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 08:10 AM, #41
Invalid,
Tsunami,
02-Dec-14 09:51 AM, #45
Good points. nt,
polmier,
02-Dec-14 06:11 PM, #61
RE: Are you comfortable with the idea that it,
Destuvius,
02-Dec-14 06:15 AM, #34
I guess I play those builds that rely on edges to work ...,
Murphy,
02-Dec-14 06:51 AM, #35
I agree 100% dude.,
Sarien,
02-Dec-14 07:59 AM, #37
Beware imm exp farming,
incognito,
02-Dec-14 08:07 AM, #40
I quadrupled my xpadds in December.,
Akresius,
01-Jan-15 11:20 AM, #79
Not a good change.,
xrus,
01-Dec-14 11:12 AM, #11
Also emote for familiars and emote in form. n/t,
Shifter/Conjie (Anonymous),
01-Dec-14 07:00 AM, #1
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