TJHuron | Thu 09-Jan-14 11:11 PM |
Member since 28th Nov 2007
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#53600, "RE: Piercing Dissonance nt"
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I'm not sure I agree. Piercing Dissonance is three rounds of lag and is only slightly more damage than Vibrato. I believe it is also 10 less mana than vibrato. Basically, at hero, the mana difference isn't going to mean as much to me and I'll take the slightly less damaging vibrato with a chance to lag because I can sing it 3 times in 6 rounds to vibrato's 2 times.
The edge for Piercing dissonance is pretty lame too, in my opinion. At first, I thought that every time it shattered glass it would lag the opponent. That didn't turn out to be true. It lags you. Then I thought, well, if I can shatter a return potion or something it might be worth it, but, it isn't. It works so rarely you can't count on it, and then you're also looking at 3+ rounds of lag. Seems more like a flaw to me.
I never see anyone choose to use piercing dissonance over vibrato in pk at hero ranks. And I only used it in PvE if I'm trying to conserve mana.
Apocalyptic is a different story. To me, it really depends on the match up between you and the enemy. I'll sing it all day long against a giant or other low int race because chances are your going to get the doom version. Other times you are just rolling the dice and probably better off going with vibrato. Although, I will say when I played Jutley, 23 chr epic bard, I hit dooms often on just about anyone, including elves. It seems to me that there is a big threshold between 22 and 23 chr when it comes to people making the save with this song.
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For discussion: abilities that stop being good
[View all] , Daevryn, Thu 09-Jan-14 11:10 AM
RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Want2Shift. (Anonymous),
27-Jan-14 11:04 PM, #99
How about a discussion for edges that are not worth it.,
Eskelian,
27-Jan-14 04:02 PM, #96
RE: How about a discussion for edges that are not worth...,
Illanthos,
27-Jan-14 05:58 PM, #97
RE: How about a discussion for edges that are not worth...,
Daevryn,
27-Jan-14 08:28 PM, #98
Did nothing for me when I took it,
KaguMaru,
28-Jan-14 05:32 AM, #100
RE: Did nothing for me when I took it,
Daevryn,
28-Jan-14 08:54 AM, #102
Opportunity cost.,
Eskelian,
28-Jan-14 08:38 AM, #101
Chromatic fire. Though it is never good.,
Tesline,
27-Jan-14 02:56 PM, #95
rallyforces,
Ex Orc Chief (Anonymous),
18-Jan-14 10:50 AM, #93
RE: rallyforces,
Straklaw,
18-Jan-14 05:34 PM, #94
Will'o'the'wisp,
Scrimbul,
11-Jan-14 07:13 PM, #76
RE: Few conjurer spells,
Drag0nSt0rm,
11-Jan-14 08:24 PM, #79
RE: Few conjurer spells,
Eskelian,
11-Jan-14 11:50 PM, #81
Flash is fine...,
Scrimbul,
12-Jan-14 10:45 AM, #83
RE: Flash is fine...,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-14 12:18 PM, #84
Interesting.,
Scrimbul,
12-Jan-14 02:17 PM, #85
RE: Interesting.,
Eskelian,
13-Jan-14 12:17 AM, #88
Your going to do it,
CD,
13-Jan-14 12:30 AM, #89
Maybe, if there's ever a time goodies aren't overwhelmi...,
Eskelian,
13-Jan-14 03:34 AM, #90
Isnt the point of flash to force people onto you over s...,
CD,
12-Jan-14 07:54 PM, #86
RE: Isnt the point of flash to force people onto you ov...,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-14 08:15 PM, #87
I used will-o-wisp once,
KaguMaru,
12-Jan-14 05:38 AM, #82
RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 11:24 PM, #69
Shapeshifters,
Klaak,
10-Jan-14 05:44 PM, #58
Just deleted a shapeshifter and got a ton of mileage fr...,
TMNS,
10-Jan-14 05:58 PM, #59
RE: Shapeshifters,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 08:10 PM, #61
RE: Shapeshifters,
Zephon,
10-Jan-14 09:05 PM, #64
Leverage kick and poison darts n/t,
Hopelessdwarf,
10-Jan-14 11:43 AM, #51
I like poison darts.,
Homard,
10-Jan-14 01:25 PM, #55
RE: Leverage kick and poison darts n/t,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 08:11 PM, #63
predator's stance,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 11:35 AM, #50
RE: predator's stance,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 08:10 PM, #62
Perhaps a further bonus to "animal" attacks,
Murphy,
11-Jan-14 12:28 AM, #71
some sort of auto strike or auto defend,
Dallevian,
11-Jan-14 07:52 PM, #78
tame,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 11:08 AM, #46
bramblepit,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 11:05 AM, #45
RE: bramblepit,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 02:15 PM, #56
yes. it did an *edited*,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 02:54 PM, #57
Plainsrunning,
Kalageadon,
10-Jan-14 07:05 PM, #60
RE: yes. it did an *edited*,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 09:57 PM, #65
RE: yes. it did an *edited*,
kolb,
10-Jan-14 10:07 PM, #66
Just call it brample trap,
Abernyte,
11-Jan-14 07:39 AM, #73
what it needs,
Dallevian,
11-Jan-14 07:50 PM, #77
Haven-,
Faenral (Anonymous),
10-Jan-14 10:42 AM, #42
RE: Haven-,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 11:03 AM, #44
Another use for Haven.,
wareagle,
10-Jan-14 11:16 AM, #48
Most spell-based maledicts,
KaguMaru,
10-Jan-14 07:56 AM, #40
Ranger things,
-flso,
09-Jan-14 07:37 PM, #31
Improvise weapon,
Murphy,
10-Jan-14 11:28 AM, #49
Charge + Pierce,
vargal,
09-Jan-14 05:10 PM, #22
RE: Charge + Pierce,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:13 PM, #26
RE: Charge,
vargal,
10-Jan-14 12:05 PM, #52
Piercing Dissonance nt,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-14 04:28 PM, #18
RE: Piercing Dissonance nt,
Illanthos,
09-Jan-14 07:51 PM, #32
RE: Piercing Dissonance nt,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-14 11:11 PM #39
RE: Piercing Dissonance nt,
lasentia,
10-Jan-14 12:49 PM, #53
not all of these are ever useful,
laxman,
09-Jan-14 02:34 PM, #11
RE: not all of these are ever useful,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
09-Jan-14 02:58 PM, #13
RE: not all of these are ever useful,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:17 PM, #27
I think (re: partial shifts) a couple things...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-14 10:35 PM, #38
expansion on ideas for partials,
laxman,
10-Jan-14 11:03 AM, #43
I really like all of these...,
TMNS,
10-Jan-14 12:52 PM, #54
RE: I think (re: partial shifts) a couple things...,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 11:21 PM, #68
Gate. NT,
TMNS,
09-Jan-14 02:16 PM, #9
RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Moligant,
09-Jan-14 01:12 PM, #7
RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:20 PM, #28
Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc,
Sarien,
09-Jan-14 01:10 PM, #6
RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Calion,
09-Jan-14 02:27 PM, #10
RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Eskelian,
09-Jan-14 02:56 PM, #12
Yeah, that would be useless, figured it has to be somet...,
Calion,
09-Jan-14 03:06 PM, #15
RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
09-Jan-14 03:03 PM, #14
RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Calion,
09-Jan-14 03:13 PM, #16
RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:23 PM, #29
Could you elaborate a bit?,
Calion,
13-Jan-14 04:13 PM, #91
Few early abilities for shamans and APs,
Torak,
09-Jan-14 12:49 PM, #5
RE: Few early abilities for shamans and APs,
Vonzamir,
09-Jan-14 02:08 PM, #8
Some notes,
Torak,
09-Jan-14 04:59 PM, #20
Polearm is there so you can defend from it. nt,
Artificial,
09-Jan-14 10:01 PM, #37
armor spell for rangers,
morocco,
09-Jan-14 12:13 PM, #4
PS: hunter precision at whatever level warriors get min...,
morocco,
09-Jan-14 03:39 PM, #17
Dervish dance is ftw n/t,
Destuvius,
09-Jan-14 04:50 PM, #19
Seconded,
Torak,
09-Jan-14 05:03 PM, #21
i forgot dance, dance is great, but you give up snare (...,
morocco,
09-Jan-14 06:23 PM, #23
RE: armor spell for rangers,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 10:31 PM, #67
Makes sense to me. n/t,
Eskelian,
11-Jan-14 12:17 AM, #70
not all rangers get barkskin, but that's ok,
morocco,
11-Jan-14 05:47 AM, #72
RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Mort,
09-Jan-14 11:25 AM, #2
Assassin kicks,
Zephon,
09-Jan-14 11:25 AM, #1
RE: Assassin kicks,
Eskelian,
09-Jan-14 11:49 AM, #3
RE: Assassin kicks,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 08:02 PM, #36
RE: Assassin kicks,
Moligant,
10-Jan-14 11:13 AM, #47
RE: Assassin kicks,
Isildur,
11-Jan-14 09:24 AM, #74
FWIW, mule is epic. One round lag, feints, mega damage....,
Eskelian,
11-Jan-14 10:00 PM, #80
throw,
Malakhi,
09-Jan-14 06:38 PM, #24
Fwiw, I would still use throw on a gnome.,
Zephon,
09-Jan-14 07:00 PM, #25
RE: throw,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:27 PM, #30
RE: throw,
Elerosse,
09-Jan-14 07:54 PM, #33
RE: throw,
Illanthos,
09-Jan-14 07:57 PM, #34
RE: throw,
Eskelian,
09-Jan-14 08:02 PM, #35
To play Devil's advocate...,
Sarien,
10-Jan-14 09:04 AM, #41
RE: throw,
Marcus_,
15-Jan-14 10:18 AM, #92
RE: throw,
Isildur,
11-Jan-14 09:26 AM, #75
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